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[buwaytress]

because of payout structure of fairlay bettors dont understand the HUGE advantage they have making parlays with me on fairlay

a negative expectation with any push cancel all, is a huge advantage to the actual bettors, other books dont do that

That's actually a really big disadvantage to you, I just realised this flaw as well, should inform fairlay of it. Does this mean also that a cancelled game (postponement for example) will result in the cancellation of all the accumulator legs? I think one loss should mean the parlay loses, not cancelled.

Or have I misunderstood what you're saying?

P.S. Soccer might be tough I get it, especially when I like parlaying across 2 or even 3 weeks (same team in different competitions). I guess getting it right for one week of Europe games is already tough enough. You've got a really good app, btw.

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[danshan11]

ok added some soccer leagues and will work to do more for soccer during the week but limited soccer matches are up

the soccer matches will be very soon upcoming will not be able to do days or weeks out

yes the parlay cancels is a huge disadvantage to me!

example 3leg parlay

Team A -1    wins
Team B -1.5 wins
Team C -.5 loses
I win

Team A -1 wins by 1
Team B -1.5 loses
Team C -.5 loses
Bet Cancels

Team A -1 wins by 1
Team B -1.5 Wins
Team C -.5 Wins
Bet Cancels

Team A -1    wins by 1
Team B -1.5 Wins
Team C -.5 loses
Bet Cancels

TEam A Wins
TEam B Wins
Team C Gets Cancelled
bet Cancels

TEam A Loses
TEam B Loses
Team C Gets Cancelled
bet Cancels

[danshan11]

So basically any tie or cancel the bet cancels the other results do not matter


Dont forget you can also use the app to place straight bets, it is not just parlays

[buwaytress]

Thanks for the additions danshan, I'll have a look later today/this evening and see if I can't put some money down for the coming weekend. Or maybe even Champions League if you somehow have those. Is there any way a user (like me) could add in data for you to help with football? I might do it myself since I do like fairlay a lot.

[danshan11]

I doubt you will be impressed, I am not setting up any markets that are more than a day out. so you wont see any low limit markets or any market that is not going to be played within the next 24 hours

It is just too server demanding and slows down the whole process having games that are days out

[danshan11]

here is a nice hit on the parlay app

https://fairlay.com/archive/will-all-cover-361/?referral=a599f4d5-c046-47db-a630-0fc0bcf2211f

[danshan11]

come on folks still waiting on feedback on my app. Please I really plan on making it better but I cant do it without feedback

[buwaytress]

Just took the first parlay on your app, danshan (lost it of course, damn Wolves!), but here's my feedback, only on Soccer markets as that's the only one I know well enough to bet on.

The one I took: https://fairlay.com/archive/will-all-cover-395/?referral=2130e697-c138-436a-a753-de8ca2436301

1. Markets were listed alphabetically, so I actually found the top division at the bottom (Championship, League 1, League 2, and then Premiership).
2. Same problem means the moneyline bets were actually listed AFTER Corners, Cards, there might be a better way to list all options (goals, cards, corners, ML) in one box?

[danshan11]

yes soccer is a monster to handle
alphabetically by league I thought was best but maybe alphabetically by actual team is the best way, what do you think?

[buwaytress]

yes soccer is a monster to handle
alphabetically by league I thought was best but maybe alphabetically by actual team is the best way, what do you think?

If using the common team's name instead of the official one, maybe (as in, Monaco instead of AS Monaco, for example). But would there be a way to also format type of bet (kind of like how Fairlay does it, not that it actually really works either).

I guess, this is as good as it gets for now, but perhaps League is still the best way to arrange it, I suspect that's how most people search, but yeah, being able to find all Liverpool lines, for example, would be a parlay type I do (across all competitions, also like Fairlay).

P.S. Script not loading any games today when I tried.

[danshan11]

it is a challenge and one of the big things is difference of opinions

1 guy says team name alphabetized
1 guy says leagues I search by leagues


the app is working good and I added mobile functionality on it

[DarkStar_]

ok added some soccer leagues and will work to do more for soccer during the week but limited soccer matches are up
the soccer matches will be very soon upcoming will not be able to do days or weeks out
yes the parlay cancels is a huge disadvantage to me!

Is it a huge disadvantage? Seems like it would go both ways (2L 1P = push, but also 2W 1P), so I can't figure out why it benefits the player. You lose a bit less if your bet pushes, but also take in less profit if your bet wins. I think there's a *small* benefit for the player as they are expected to have more losses than wins, but pushes are somewhat rare anyway (except in soccer).

Definitely makes it a lot more interesting for the player though - players still have something to cheer for if they have a push-able leg remaining.

[danshan11]

I have not actually done the math on it does someone know how?

anyway

yes that is a fun part, a dead parlay that loses 1st leg you can still hope for a push on 2nd or 3rd leg, so that bet gets longer shelf life at least

ties happen roughly 2% of the time

[buwaytress]

I guess in the end it doesn't matter how you arrange the leagues, danshan, I'll still find it and it's a good app (thanks, seriously). But since the last time I tried, I'm still not sure what I'm doing wrong though, now the app won't load for me. I click Soccer and nothing happens. I thought to give it 5 mins but still the same. Brave and Chrome, and IE, all same screen.

[danshan11]

because it is new and I dont fully trust the software yet. I am only turning it on when I am awake. like I just turned it on about 30 minutes ago when I woke up.

Once I know the app is stable and wont freeze or have an error, I will turn it on 24/7

[buwaytress]

because it is new and I dont fully trust the software yet. I am only turning it on when I am awake. like I just turned it on about 30 minutes ago when I woke up.

Once I know the app is stable and wont freeze or have an error, I will turn it on 24/7

OK yeah, that explains it. I saw you turned it on right after Champs League games started, but saved me some heartache anyway as was looking to parlay Spurs and Real Madrid to win (Spurs got thrashed badly).

The selections that did turn up showed up really fast last night though.

What's the volume of orders you matched via the app so far? I'll try remember to give it a shout out every now and then on my own thread.

[danshan11]

it was doing 50-60 bets a day but has slowed lately to 30-40 a day

and I really appreciate any shout out

[orcun]

Hello fairlay,

I like to market make with high volumes. Do I simply use the API or is there application for it?

[danshan11]

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