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[buwaytress]

I've been able to use the site and place bets like normal (just with the occasional Ctrl + F5 to fix the cache issue) for the past week. For search, you can search by editing the URL directly: https://fairlay.com/markets/?q=manchester+united&sort=close_date.

That's really weird that you haven't been able to fix the problem with a force refresh and browser change. What browsers have you been trying? I've been on Firefox (v83.0b3) and haven't experienced the problems you describe.

I saw the cache error message on topbar at first so assumed it was a site problem. Might be an issue with my browser and cache too... I actually don't like clearing it all, just cookies, and then I've been overloading my memory with multiple extensions. I'm on Chrome (latest update) and tried with Edge... I'll go try Firefox on another device later but for now, thanks! Your search string is exactly what I needed as a temporary fix!

[nasipadang]

I have taken a look at the site, but find it very unclear and not clearly structured. Maybe the design can be adjusted somewhere?
The most famous exchanges all have roughly the same infrastructure and design.

[Haunebu]

I have taken a look at the site, but find it very unclear and not clearly structured. Maybe the design can be adjusted somewhere?
The most famous exchanges all have roughly the same infrastructure and design.

This has always been an issue with Fairlay since the beginning. Many gamblers including me complained about the design and the cluttered UI, but the Fairlay team didn't focus on resolving these issues which is why we have gotten used to the interface itself.

The big Pro in their favor is that it's the only crypto betting exchange with decent liquidity though that could change since new ones like Exbet are slowly rising in popularity.

[danshan11]

I have taken a look at the site, but find it very unclear and not clearly structured. Maybe the design can be adjusted somewhere?
The most famous exchanges all have roughly the same infrastructure and design.

have you tried using the fairlay app?

its here https://jgexchange.com/bet.html/

[nrd525]

When are the US election bets going to resolve?

In my opinion there is a <0.1% chance of the courts overturning the presidential election result.

[Pmalek]

@Fairlay

I sometimes perform tests on casinos to check how much effort they make to restrict players from restricted countries to access those casinos.

Here is a link to the thread where I do the testing:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278411.0

I tested Fairlay.com the other day, and according to your TOS, USA is one of the countries whose players are not allowed on your site. But I noticed that you don't have any IP restrictions for US players. I was able to use a VPN and create an account on Fairlay.com.

Many casinos have implemented IP blocks, why doesn't your casino have them as well?

[danshan11]

so your like a self-appointed casino cop?

Fairlay is not even a casino

just curious why would you care about this at all and why would you have a thread about it?

what benefit do players get from an IP block?

[Pmalek]

just curious why would you care about this at all and why would you have a thread about it?

The reasons and motivations are explained in my opening post in the thread I linked in the previous comment. Read about it there if you want more information.

what benefit do players get from an IP block?

The benefit of not being allowed to deposit funds in a casino where they are not allowed to play, only to have their accounts blocked, wins forfeited, or other problems that happen from time to time on different platforms.

[danshan11]

Cool, is there anyway you could call the city code department in my city

I am too lazy to cut my weeds and if you called and told them on me maybe that will motivate me to cut them when they come out and give me a fine

[danshan11]

just curious why would you care about this at all and why would you have a thread about it?

The reasons and motivations are explained in my opening post in the thread I linked in the previous comment. Read about it there if you want more information.

what benefit do players get from an IP block?

The benefit of not being allowed to deposit funds in a casino where they are not allowed to play, only to have their accounts blocked, wins forfeited, or other problems that happen from time to time on different platforms.

have you ever read or heard one complaint in the 10 years of fairlay of them holding a users funds for geo location?

[nrd525]

It's interesting that you can bet on Polymarket (US based and No IP blocks) and probably several other sites.  Somebody thinks it is ok, as they funded Polymarket with $4 million.

Hopefully the US is set to deregulate gambling. I know some states are working out the details after the Supreme Court said it was ok.

[danshan11]

It's interesting that you can bet on Polymarket (US based and No IP blocks) and probably several other sites.  Somebody thinks it is ok, as they funded Polymarket with $4 million.

Hopefully the US is set to deregulate gambling. I know some states are working out the details after the Supreme Court said it was ok.

deregulate gambling in the US, what?

[nrd525]

Oops I mean legalize and regulate.  You are totally right in that deregulation is very unlikely.  For starters, there is the historical money laundering problem so AML/KYC is pretty important.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/us/politics/supreme-court-sports-betting-new-jersey.html

[Degens]

It's interesting that you can bet on Polymarket (US based and No IP blocks) and probably several other sites.  Somebody thinks it is ok, as they funded Polymarket with $4 million.

Hopefully the US is set to deregulate gambling. I know some states are working out the details after the Supreme Court said it was ok.

Polymarket and Degens are both smart contract based betting platforms. It isn't possible to block IPs as you can just interact directly with the smart contract which lives on the blockchain.

Poly's legal stance is more aggressive though as they tout they are US based though.

[danshan11]

why do you call degens non custodial? what do you mean by non custodial?

[danshan11]

Oops I mean legalize and regulate.  You are totally right in that deregulation is very unlikely.  For starters, there is the historical money laundering problem so AML/KYC is pretty important.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/us/politics/supreme-court-sports-betting-new-jersey.html

AML KYC are really important for the government or books with no common sense

if you cant tell someone is using your service to steal lie or cheat you probably need to get out of ANY business

[Pmalek]

have you ever read or heard one complaint in the 10 years of fairlay of them holding a users funds for geo location?

I have not claimed that Fairlay does or has in the past held user funds, have I? I gave you an example of what has happened in the past on certain platforms. Whether or not Fairlay has done similar things, I don't know, nor is that the point of discussion. 

[leea-1334]

Sites have rules, and they have put it there so people can read them and agree,,, if they do not like it, they leave. Sites can choose to enforce, but then you go down a whole different route of enforcement and have to start implementing blocks to prevent people who want to cheat the system, which not everyone would like. I agree like danshan said, if sites do not know how to detect that, they need to stop any business.

Fairlay is OK for me,,, personally feel no need to change anything.

[danshan11]

have you ever read or heard one complaint in the 10 years of fairlay of them holding a users funds for geo location?

I have not claimed that Fairlay does or has in the past held user funds, have I? I gave you an example of what has happened in the past on certain platforms. Whether or not Fairlay has done similar things, I don't know, nor is that the point of discussion. 

your point I feel is useless and trying to smear a platform for no reason is useless. I would ask fairlay themselves what is their policy

[nrd525]

Oops I mean legalize and regulate.  You are totally right in that deregulation is very unlikely.  For starters, there is the historical money laundering problem so AML/KYC is pretty important.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/us/politics/supreme-court-sports-betting-new-jersey.html

AML KYC are really important for the government or books with no common sense

if you cant tell someone is using your service to steal lie or cheat you probably need to get out of ANY business

It has nothing to do with stealing or lying (at least from the casino's point of view), and everything to do with money laundering to avoid taxes or to turn illegal funds into more legitimate looking ones.


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In other news, did Fairlay decide to only settle some of their presidential markets because they wanted to limit their risk on the off chance (I'd say 0.1%) that Biden does not win? 

Anyways this is fairly strange. I wish they had a Twitter account or used the blog to post about decisions like this.
It looks like Fairlay ignores this discussion thread for the most part too.