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April 18, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
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In other news, anyone want to lend me some TyGrr-Bank bonds? I'll pay an extra 10% of any dividends paid during the lending period.

Interested why you would like to borrow the bonds? Is it for agreeing the new contract?

Phil

He wants to sell them now and buy them back later. He thinks the price will go down as Nefario has threatened to delist my assets in the past if he did not get his way. This will cause a panic and Brendio can make a lot of money.



Actually, even without any drama, I think the price will go down. Selling at current prices gives me a good few weeks for that to happen before I will lose money on it. The way I see it, I am better on being able to buy for 0.1025 again within the next four or so weeks. Someone loaning me the bonds thinks the price will stay high longer than that and can earn an extra 15% by loaning me the bonds.

For reference, I have already borrowed bonds for a different asset from znort. That  one was lower risk for me because I was able to hedge. We could both win out of that deal.

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April 19, 2012, 12:14:25 AM
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We all know that the contract on GLBSE says "TEST". Nefario now finds this unacceptable. I have no problem with placing a contract on the GLBSE site and honestly it seems reasonable. However his solution to this was to let the forum decide my new contract.

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I will open a thread on the bitcointalk forums to piece together what
you have promised
in other threads with regards to this asset. I'm not
familiar with the details of this asset, it being such a long thread, so
I will leave it up to the members of the forum who are better informed
than me.

Goat, I think you are too quick to read ill intent into what Nefario writes. He never said the forum would decide. The problem is, the original contract was on bitcointalk rather than GLBSE. Nefario is not wanting forum members decide the terms of the contract. There already is a contract based on what you have already promised over 13 pages of this thread. Nefario wants that to be formalised in one place.

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April 19, 2012, 03:28:37 AM
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... your telling me how to act and how I should operate (publicly) ... does not really seem polite.
You are right. It would have been a message better delivered by PM. I'm sorry.

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May 23, 2012, 02:26:40 PM
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Honestly I do not have a policy right now and I am very shocked by the demand.

*ponders situation from afar*

I have no interest either way (meaning, no money involved) however I would like to point out that a problem like this should never, ever happen. I don't know how or why this happened, but if I saw a security listed on the GLBSE with no contract, I would never look at it again. If you have a security listed on the GLBSE and it's trading and you change the contract, in the real world that is a form of fraud. Now, yes, this is bitcoin, but if bitcoin ever gets big, this kind of thing will not go unpunished. Please, people. Search your hearts and fix this the way it would be fixed in the real world, and set an example. I hate to see stuff like this ruining the credibility of bitcoin.

P.S. please try to understand my position as a member of the 99.9% of people who see this and have no idea what is going on.

If you look through the too many pages in this thread you will see TYGRR-BANK was once just listed as a test asset on GLBSE before the 8 BTC fee was imposed.  I too would like a beter contract.  If anyone has a problem with the contract changing within a 4 week period then purchase some insurance, or if you think the contract will change or not pay its bond payment then short TYGRR-BANK.

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May 24, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
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Currently I am not finding greater suckers available to buy my Tygrr-Bank bonds on sale at 0.1039. 

I will buy them back at .1, just like what I sold them at.

Thank you.
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My 271 bonds are now on sale at 0.100 on GLBSE

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May 24, 2012, 10:50:33 AM
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what the?!? people sold for 0.08? why not wait for goat to buy back?

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May 24, 2012, 10:55:30 AM
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what the?!? people sold for 0.08? why not wait for goat to buy back?

because i did not want to read a hole thread just for 15 shares?
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May 24, 2012, 11:09:37 AM
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what the?!? people sold for 0.08? why not wait for goat to buy back?

because i did not want to read a hole thread just for 15 shares?

ok, I can understand that.

Am just pissed I wasn't the buyer Wink Ah, those were the times when one could place as many bids as one liked on GLBSE without actually having the funds for having them all filled Wink

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May 24, 2012, 11:33:16 PM
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I cannot find a Tygrr-Bank ticker?

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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May 24, 2012, 11:37:38 PM
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I cannot find a Tygrr-Bank ticker?

Tickers have changed names, see here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82569.0

PGP key id at pgp.mit.edu 0xA68F4B7C

To get help and support for GLBSE please email support@glbse.com
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May 25, 2012, 12:18:13 AM
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https://glbse.com/asset/view/TYGRR.BOND-B
or like this ^^

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May 25, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
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Hmm... it does not seem to have as consistent, cut-and-dry dividends as the post makes it sound, but I'll try a few shares

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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May 25, 2012, 08:42:18 AM
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goat, can you change thread topic(s) to match glbse name?

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May 30, 2012, 08:55:14 PM
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Shouldn't the title be TYGRR.BOND-B and not TYGRR.BOND-A?

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June 09, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
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Each bond will be sold at .103 BTC and will be bought back at any time at .1 BTC.

when you have some time, can you check the order book? If my sell order @0.1 is still there, please buy it back.

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June 11, 2012, 07:36:25 PM
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I see a lot of people putting up shares for 0.099 or 0.1, why are people getting out? 2% is good, and not reliant on Pirate.

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June 11, 2012, 07:59:39 PM
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I see a lot of people putting up shares for 0.099 or 0.1, why are people getting out? 2% is good, and not reliant on Pirate.

Phil

Goat can buy back the bonds at any time for 0.1. So don't expect the price will go much higher than 0.1, it rather stays below 0.1. The other thing is that Goat is exposed to pirate as well and nobody (except for him) knows how much and what will pirate's default do to his solvency  Cheesy
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June 11, 2012, 09:20:33 PM
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if you expect to profit from a "bond" with varying dividend payouts by buying low and selling high, you're doing it wrong Wink

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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June 12, 2012, 12:55:49 PM
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PING Goat:
TYGRR.TECH got a dividend payment today, TYGRR.BOND-B didn't.  Oops?
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June 12, 2012, 01:03:19 PM
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PING Goat:
TYGRR.TECH got a dividend payment today, TYGRR.BOND-B didn't.  Oops?

go double check that... you got paid 20 mins before you made this post. if you did not get the money in your account pm me and we need to talk to glbse support.

i did not receive any dividend payment too: TYGRR.BOND-P

this was my last payment: 0.272    TYGRR.BOND-P    2012-06-05 10:05:58

edit: sorry wrong bond Wink
but i guess there will be a payment soon
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