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March 22, 2015, 06:51:14 PM
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Gentlemen! Evacuation! We sell Navajo. MESSAGE reportedly will not. There are problems.



ENGLISH ''I am happy to be here and to write here. Among the others the price dropped thanks to me as well. Due to this, i was able to buy a lot of more navs in the range 1200-2400, and that's what it is all about, to fool you so I can make more profit."



This is how fudders work. DONT BE NAIVE and dont sell your navs cause others earn on your stupidity


McVisual , next account of Papcio77 or the same sophisticated methods? hahahhahahahhaha
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March 22, 2015, 06:53:10 PM
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More Caps Lock and different font sizes please...



Seriously though, gimme more and all this trash will get moderated.

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March 22, 2015, 06:55:04 PM
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And in any case, there should probably be a minimum amount sent in order for it to be accepted for processing, say 100 NAV depending on where the price is at the time.
I don't think processing transactions below $1 value makes sense.

Another question: How much (if any) extra burden does the anonymous system add to the actual blockchain?

Since the blockchain is already increasing fast, would it make sense to double the amount of time for a block?
Do we really need such fast blocks or do we need a more manageable chain instead?


I do not dispute the absolute value of the fee, but your question is well placed.
You might also want consider what is the value of a service in its own way unique,
but they are themes and economic theories, from which I remain happily out.  Grin

Regarding the cost and use of the server, and how the cost of the servers just
to handle anonymity, here I am in the dark, we have been told that there are 12
servers, but I have no idea how they are intended or functions are divided
and whether they can be aggregated.

But of one thing I am quite sure, even without anonymity, there are live
costs to sustain.

Maybe we can think as academic discussion about the impact of anonymous
transactions on blockchain, at least from what has been explained in the course
of the beta test.
Obviously there are only conjectures and maybe wrong, happy to be corrected by Dev.

Instead of a transaction "clear" and directed, a transaction anonymous undergoes
multiple steps, as well as a fragmentation, which depends not so much on the
absolute value, but the composition of the figure that you want to move.
For example, if in the best of cases, to send for example 100 or 1000 occupies
a space of 1, and send 1050 it occupies 2, to send 975 or 9999 it can occupy 10.

So without making too many calculations, an anonymous transaction, may impact
differently on blockchain, but may come to occupy as a dozen normal transactions.

Moreover, the fragmentation of which I said before, also involves another effect,
which will take place later, when the recipient will spend the money received.
Its new transaction will consist of many small piles, which occupy a little more
space than normal, making the size in bytes of the transaction a little heavier.
Nothing catastrophic, but it is a burden that will be imposed on the entire
block chain.

The idea of slowing the blockchain, I do not really like, in general I prefer a
fast coin instead of having to wait several minutes for confirmation.
In the case of many transactions at same time, may be cases of gridlock,
in which transactions are put in a long queue, dilating much the time needed
to final confirmation, a bit as happen with btc.

Instead a fast block time, would reduce these queues, and make time to
confirm acceptable.

There might be a compromise solution, a block time slow when there are no
transactions, but it can accelerate immediately, when there are new transactions
to be incorporated or to be confirmed.

It seems to me that some coins have attempted this, but I do not remember the
name, or if they have been successful, but I think it's a fairly difficult
to implement it here and now, especially so with a coin already in operation.

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March 22, 2015, 07:02:20 PM
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Please Please Please DON'T FEED THE STUPID TROLLS.
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March 22, 2015, 07:09:55 PM
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Here are some screen shots of the Anonymous system working on the main block chain for all the doubters.

1. New version of the wallet, you can clearly see that it is the NAV wallet, not the AnonBeta



2 .Here I am making a transaction from my unbuntu virtual box to my windows wallet



3. Showing the anon confirmation dialog



4. Confirmed transaction which is to one of the anon nodes rather than the address i set on the previous screen



5. Showing the transaction details where you can see the encrypted destination information listed under "transaction comment"



6. My windows wallet where i have received the split transactions (minus tx-fee) from the exit node





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March 22, 2015, 07:20:45 PM
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If you happen to see Him, I have a technical curiosity to ask him, if possible I would
like to know how many megabytes occupied his wallet.dat.

It tends to increase with the use and with time, but I can not imagine what it can get.


I have read about that. mostely it is not the size, which is limiting the wallet, but it is the number of addresses kept in that wallet.

One time I accidently created 15000 addresses and the wallet grew to 200MB . the result has been an unusable wallet, because every action lasts soooo long.

So I thought, the wallet keeps the private keys for the addresses. Coins are inside the network and not stored in the wallet. So it does not matter, if I have one coin or 1000 coins, it does not change wallet size. ??

I read there is no real limit, the limit is set by the hardware processing the wallet. and of yourse the filesystem Cheesy

15000 ?? What a greedy guy!   Grin Grin Grin

Yes, the wallet keeps the private keys for the addresses, IIRC but also keeps
a track, a pointer or something (I should recheck the source) to private part
of database, which indicates all personal transactions received or made,
and txuo of coins available to be spent or stake.
This should be the part which the command repairwallet fix.

So the value of 1 coin or 1M coin, don't care, but 1 transaction or
100k TX have much impact.

I noticed this with the wallet of a failed coin which i use for some tests,
which with very few addresses, it was growing only for the stake and POW,
becoming as you yourself have said slow to die to handle.

Only after transferring all to a new wallet \ address, the new wallet is returned
to be usable... at least for a while.  Wink


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March 22, 2015, 07:28:39 PM
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https://twitter.com/navajocointalk/status/579694080919207937

Retweet please Wink
Stay Tuned Navajos!

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March 22, 2015, 07:42:38 PM
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remy I ask him and he say it is around 30mb

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March 22, 2015, 07:59:36 PM
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Can some one update the main page and add alcurex in the exchanges.  there is at least 6 btc buy support..  and they added the nav annon wallet right away. show some support



https://alcurex.org/index.php/crypto/market?pair=nav_btc

0.00002620    14523.00000000    0.38050260
0.00002600    4521.00000000    0.11754600
0.00002582    6321.00000000    0.16320822
0.00002500    3214.00000000    0.08035000
0.00002480    4563.00000000    0.11316240
0.00002430    21453.00000000    0.52130790
0.00002400    45632.00000000    1.09516800
0.00002354    32541.00000000    0.76601514
0.00002200    3214.00000000    0.07070800
0.00002190    81018.22740731    1.77429918
0.00001900    55550.00000000    1.05545000


edit: hah i see its added already... sorry
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March 22, 2015, 08:15:10 PM
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The future begins tomorrow Navajo will b  the best investment you can make....... buy now cause Monday is the day that NAVAJO GOES UP AND UP......WE ARE IN FOR A WILD RIDE OF YOUR LIFE  SO JOIN THE WINING TEAM GET YOURS TODAY AND HOLD ON TO THOSE COINS ....LESS THEM 24 HOURS AND THIS IT GUY'S THE ROCKET IS ABOUT TO LIFT OFF ....TOMORROW IT NAVAJO DAY IT WILL B A DAY TO REMEMBER THAT NAVAJO BECAME NUMBER 1....................................

                                 
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March 22, 2015, 08:47:11 PM
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Good News
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March 22, 2015, 08:50:23 PM
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NAV is the best choice for smart buyer great future coming just few days to go the mooon,
still chance to get cheap NAV, once Anon release price will to the moon.
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March 22, 2015, 08:55:14 PM
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Can some one update the main page and add alcurex in the exchanges.  there is at least 6 btc buy support..  and they added the nav annon wallet right away. show some support



https://alcurex.org/index.php/crypto/market?pair=nav_btc

0.00002620    14523.00000000    0.38050260
0.00002600    4521.00000000    0.11754600
0.00002582    6321.00000000    0.16320822
0.00002500    3214.00000000    0.08035000
0.00002480    4563.00000000    0.11316240
0.00002430    21453.00000000    0.52130790
0.00002400    45632.00000000    1.09516800
0.00002354    32541.00000000    0.76601514
0.00002200    3214.00000000    0.07070800
0.00002190    81018.22740731    1.77429918
0.00001900    55550.00000000    1.05545000




THANK YOU !!!


edit: hah i see its added already... sorry
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March 22, 2015, 09:34:22 PM
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Yeah WTB cheap NAV? 3000-3500 range 17 BTC, zuhahahah, total 32 BTC, run run run buy....
Prices should rise, because weak hands have been shaken out.

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March 22, 2015, 09:47:38 PM
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Yeah WTB cheap NAV? 3000-3500 range 17 BTC, zuhahahah, total 32 BTC, run run run buy....
Prices should rise, because weak hands have been shaken out.

yes, weak hands, before DEV s announcement,  60 BTC to 6000sat, now 101 BTC to 6000sat, strong hands too dangerous
Then prices will rise steadily, old dumpers will get a second chance to buy at a slightly higher price

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March 22, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
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 Angry Angry
can you all stop talking about price variation of +- 500 satoshis like impatient kids please? 

we talk about a fully working anon feature that is going live tomorrow....  price today is peanuts compared to what Navajo will be worth in less than 24hr.

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March 22, 2015, 09:58:05 PM
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Yeah WTB cheap NAV? 3000-3500 range 17 BTC, zuhahahah, total 32 BTC, run run run buy....
Prices should rise, because weak hands have been shaken out.

yes, weak hands, before DEV s announcement,  60 BTC to 6000sat, now 101 BTC to 6000sat, strong hands too dangerous
Then prices will rise steadily, old dumpers will get a second chance to buy at a slightly higher price

I agree! Price will rise fast when final anon wallet will be released. I'm waiting for this great time. Tomorrow!

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March 22, 2015, 09:59:45 PM
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I don't see many coins rise instantly with any release. Usually it's a dump or nothing happens until a week or so after.
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March 22, 2015, 10:00:21 PM
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I would just like to confirm that we are going to drastically reduce the transaction fee figure shown in this screen shot.



The likely fee for launch will be 0.5% per transaction.

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I would just like to confirm that we are going to drastically reduce the transaction fee figure shown in this screen shot.



The likely fee for launch will be 0.5% per transaction.

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Hmm very nice information but is it enough for all the servers etc charges?
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