★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - Community Fund Live!!!

[hashforce101]

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141022T00&p0=2416&msg=NAV+Major

[soopy452000]

Hello Guys,

With being on Cryptsy and the news is still young ,  while there's always FUD whenever a coin has an achievement I believe that it has always been the case been there done that , same for Bitcoin way back and same for everyone who rises up from the ashes anyhow while all that Anon is being implemented and can be expected soon , while some people still do not understand the implementation method and our way of Anonymity, I would like to urge them to go back and read the Whitepaper , it cannot be compared to any other out there nor can it be simplified to anyother it's unique in it's own way , uses it's own technology of getting there , if you still have further questions regarding the same which however you shouldn't have if you took the time to read the whitepaper other than being ignorent and your only intention is to FUD or promoting your own coin but if you are a genuine investor or an interested part I'm always open to explain it to you to help you understand the same and you can PM me your queries anytime and as everyone knows , I reply to them always.

While some people bat sick in criticizing everything of other's like kids , why not mature yourself and gather around some positiveness energy yourself , your negative energy is hindering your consciousness and hinders your thoughts in a very dark manner.

Anyhow whatever maybe or whatever may come , we will get where we will and where we have planned on getting , that is unstoppable so laugh all you want , throw mud all you want , we as a community stand stronger than any hurdle in front of us.

LOVE & LIGHT!

~SoopY~

[RadDragon]

Hello Guys,

...while some people still do not understand the implementation method and our way of Anonymity, I would like to urge them to go back and read the Whitepaper , it cannot be compared to any other out there nor can it be simplified to anyother it's unique in it's own way , uses it's own technology of getting there , if you still have further questions regarding the same which however you shouldn't have if you took the time to read the whitepaper other than being ignorent...

Have your method analyzed by a 3rd party professional or put it on github for other coders to comment.  If you're serious about it, then you need legitimacy now to keep your community happy.  Without legitimacy it will devolve, and for good reason.

[GREEDYJOHN]

Hello Guys,

...while some people still do not understand the implementation method and our way of Anonymity, I would like to urge them to go back and read the Whitepaper , it cannot be compared to any other out there nor can it be simplified to anyother it's unique in it's own way , uses it's own technology of getting there , if you still have further questions regarding the same which however you shouldn't have if you took the time to read the whitepaper other than being ignorent...

Have your method analyzed by a 3rd party professional or put it on github for other coders to comment.  If you're serious about it, then you need legitimacy now to keep your community happy.  Without legitimacy it will devolve, and for good reason.

Lets give the DEVs some time.

[icekohl]

Wow, I missed a serious rage fest. 

Calm down ladies you're all pretty.

[skidog]

Not sure why people are having trouble holding. I have stuck my coins in my wallet....The dev. is working, he just released a new wallet and said he was working on the the next phase ...I'm not seeing the problem.

[david1365]

Not sure why people are having trouble holding. I have stuck my coins in my wallet....The dev. is working, he just released a new wallet and said he was working on the the next phase ...I'm not seeing the problem.

A this point major problem is HODLing, because many NAV investors like me bought at high prices, despite the good news, we still don't see price increase, this is so BS situation

[bspus]

Not sure why people are having trouble holding. I have stuck my coins in my wallet....The dev. is working, he just released a new wallet and said he was working on the the next phase ...I'm not seeing the problem.

A this point major problem is HODLing, because many NAV investors like me bought at high prices, despite the good news, we still don't see price increase, this is so BS situation

The same people will not let the price go higher. As soon as it rises, people try to mitigate their loss by selling.

When anon comes we will surely see a major bump, though at this point I doubt it will be permament.
And it might well be the last as people have no other major feature to expect.
Yes the devs will advertise and add more stuff but what else does a coin need really?

Such a shame... I wonder how different things would be if it weren't for that doublespend attack.
It was like a shot in the knee. It didn't kill the coin but it never really recovered either

[soopy452000]

Hello Guys,

...while some people still do not understand the implementation method and our way of Anonymity, I would like to urge them to go back and read the Whitepaper , it cannot be compared to any other out there nor can it be simplified to anyother it's unique in it's own way , uses it's own technology of getting there , if you still have further questions regarding the same which however you shouldn't have if you took the time to read the whitepaper other than being ignorent...

Have your method analyzed by a 3rd party professional or put it on github for other coders to comment.  If you're serious about it, then you need legitimacy now to keep your community happy.  Without legitimacy it will devolve, and for good reason.

This is innovation mate and only the inhouse developers will have access to it till released and it is not some third party multipurpose software , why don't you go and tell the same thing on other coins announced/announcing Anon and see their reaction , legitimacy will prevail and sustain because we will be doing what we have put in place either the price goes up or down and no we are not pumping just talking about it.
With you will see that it is legitimate even if you do not believe it or want to believe it or not because your believes are otherwise.

~SoopY~

[soopy452000]

Not sure why people are having trouble holding. I have stuck my coins in my wallet....The dev. is working, he just released a new wallet and said he was working on the the next phase ...I'm not seeing the problem.

A this point major problem is HODLing, because many NAV investors like me bought at high prices, despite the good news, we still don't see price increase, this is so BS situation

The same people will not let the price go higher. As soon as it rises, people try to mitigate their loss by selling.

When anon comes we will surely see a major bump, though at this point I doubt it will be permament.
And it might well be the last as people have no other major feature to expect.
Yes the devs will advertise and add more stuff but what else does a coin need really?

Such a shame... I wonder how different things would be if it weren't for that doublespend attack.
It was like a shot in the knee. It didn't kill the coin but it never really recovered either

It's was like we were enjoying summer in the Beach and suddenly the climate change resulted in Winter! :S

[gorian]

     @soopy

Keep up the good work! Ignore the people trying to provoke you!
Until now, I see no reason to worry ... except slow work, which is understandable given that your alone programmer, and part time work.

And for people who are trying to sell at 1500 the price at which they took before.
I will say that no one DEV is not obliged to raise the price (if they can)!
And no one except us can raise the price... no one but us can reduce the price!

[RadDragon]

This is innovation mate and only the inhouse developers will have access to it till released and it is not some third party multipurpose software , why don't you go and tell the same thing on other coins announced/announcing Anon and see their reaction , legitimacy will prevail and sustain because we will be doing what we have put in place either the price goes up or down and no we are not pumping just talking about it.
With you will see that it is legitimate even if you do not believe it or want to believe it or not because your believes are otherwise.

~SoopY~

Other anon coins did do this.  https://twitter.com/StealthCoin/status/508648255077376001
The 3rd party's review: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681725.msg8713122#msg8713122

Soopy, I'm a biologist, not a computer expert.  I need a third party to say your solution is good because if you show it to me I am not savve enough to know if you're just selling me salt.  You say it works perfectly -- yet all other solutions so far have had numerous holes.  Something smells fishy.

I don't care about your coin's price at this point in time, I'm more concerned with your abilities as a programmer to be able to successfully implement anonymity.  This is really important to me because if I use anonymous currency my life is on the line.  Literally, I need a developer that I can trust with my life.

In case you are genuinely good intentions and not just putting up a smoke screen, this is what I know about you:
I do not know your education background.
Your prior projects are not glowing.
You refuse to give anyone any information about yourself.
It took your team months to fix the linux wallet bug, causing me personal financial loss (and others).
Your progress is not transparent.
Your methods are not transparent.
Basically, I'm in the dark and negatives here months in.

I can only weigh the evidence I've been given.  And I am asking for you to give me some reason to trust you that isn't fluff.

If you think that my concerns are not founded, then by all means say why.  I'm happy to have logical discussion and debate.  But, I am also not afraid to be a voice of dissent in a room of sheep.

[Kunfu]

This is innovation mate and only the inhouse developers will have access to it till released and it is not some third party multipurpose software , why don't you go and tell the same thing on other coins announced/announcing Anon and see their reaction , legitimacy will prevail and sustain because we will be doing what we have put in place either the price goes up or down and no we are not pumping just talking about it.
With you will see that it is legitimate even if you do not believe it or want to believe it or not because your believes are otherwise.

~SoopY~

Other anon coins did do this.  https://twitter.com/StealthCoin/status/508648255077376001
The 3rd party's review: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681725.msg8713122#msg8713122

Soopy, I'm a biologist, not a computer expert.  I need a third party to say your solution is good because if you show it to me I am not savve enough to know if you're just selling me salt.  You say it works perfectly -- yet all other solutions so far have had numerous holes.  Something smells fishy.

I don't care about your coin's price at this point in time, I'm more concerned with your abilities as a programmer to be able to successfully implement anonymity.  This is really important to me because if I use anonymous currency my life is on the line.  Literally, I need a developer that I can trust with my life.

In case you are genuinely good intentions and not just putting up a smoke screen, this is what I know about you:
I do not know your education background.
Your prior projects are not glowing.
You refuse to give anyone any information about yourself.
It took your team months to fix the linux wallet bug, causing me personal financial loss (and others).
Your progress is not transparent.
Your methods are not transparent.
Basically, I'm in the dark and negatives here months in.

I can only weigh the evidence I've been given.  And I am asking for you to give me some reason to trust you that isn't fluff.

If you think that my concerns are not founded, then by all means say why.  I'm happy to have logical discussion and debate.  But, I am also not afraid to be a voice of dissent in a room of sheep.

100% agree. very well put, many others including myself are in the same situation.

[GREEDYJOHN]

This is innovation mate and only the inhouse developers will have access to it till released and it is not some third party multipurpose software , why don't you go and tell the same thing on other coins announced/announcing Anon and see their reaction , legitimacy will prevail and sustain because we will be doing what we have put in place either the price goes up or down and no we are not pumping just talking about it.
With you will see that it is legitimate even if you do not believe it or want to believe it or not because your believes are otherwise.

~SoopY~

Other anon coins did do this.  https://twitter.com/StealthCoin/status/508648255077376001
The 3rd party's review: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681725.msg8713122#msg8713122

Soopy, I'm a biologist, not a computer expert.  I need a third party to say your solution is good because if you show it to me I am not savve enough to know if you're just selling me salt.  You say it works perfectly -- yet all other solutions so far have had numerous holes.  Something smells fishy.

I don't care about your coin's price at this point in time, I'm more concerned with your abilities as a programmer to be able to successfully implement anonymity.  This is really important to me because if I use anonymous currency my life is on the line.  Literally, I need a developer that I can trust with my life.

In case you are genuinely good intentions and not just putting up a smoke screen, this is what I know about you:
I do not know your education background.
Your prior projects are not glowing.
You refuse to give anyone any information about yourself.
It took your team months to fix the linux wallet bug, causing me personal financial loss (and others).
Your progress is not transparent.
Your methods are not transparent.
Basically, I'm in the dark and negatives here months in.

I can only weigh the evidence I've been given.  And I am asking for you to give me some reason to trust you that isn't fluff.

If you think that my concerns are not founded, then by all means say why.  I'm happy to have logical discussion and debate.  But, I am also not afraid to be a voice of dissent in a room of sheep.

100% agree. very well put, many others including myself are in the same situation.

SOOPY IS JUST A HUMAN BEING LIKE YOURSELF.
Soopy rebranded and rebuilt a coin, performed coin swaps and released white paper. Things were going good, then double spend attack occurred. NAVAJO COIN IS THE FIRST CRYPTOCOIN TO SURVIVE A DOUBLE SPEND ATTACK.
Soopy was sick and bedridden after resolving the double spend attack, due to the stress involved, but the sickness also affected his personal life.
Soopy is back now, NAVAJO COIN WILL LIVE AGAIN.

[RadDragon]

SOOPY IS JUST A HUMAN BEING LIKE YOURSELF.
Soopy rebranded and rebuilt a coin, performed coin swaps and released white paper. Things were going good, then double spend attack occurred. NAVAJO COIN IS THE FIRST CRYPTOCOIN TO SURVIVE A DOUBLE SPEND ATTACK.
Soopy was sick and bedridden after resolving the double spend attack, due to the stress involved, but the sickness also affected his personal life.
Soopy is back now, NAVAJO COIN WILL LIVE AGAIN.

I looked positively on the survival of the double spend.  I don't know what work was involved.  But I also don't know soopy, and since he won't tell me anything about himself, I can't trust him at his word alone.  As far as I know, it is possible that he could have lied for whatever reason.

An unknown stranger's alleged sickness cost me real money.  That's all I know for sure.

But again you don't seem to grasp what I need to have trust.  Please stop ranting like a religious fanatic, that just makes you look crazy to me.

[icekohl]

RadDragon, you and others have valid concerns. Hash(s) and others have an overabundance of faith. Both can be annoying as hell when played out so passionately.

Losing money in crypto sucks, I've lost my fair share. I have not though put myself in a position where I felt I needed to berate a dev or community over it. Everything in crypto is a gamble, yelling at the dealer usually doesn't get a person anywhere. I've bought a portion of my stake in NAV in the 1500 range, lost money on it maybe, still holding, waiting. If all the exchanges closed the NAV market right this instant and it all went 'poof' I'd be annoyed but would see it as a gamble lost.

Proof of Development and Proof of Developer...
I agree that Proof of Development would be a great boon for the market price of NAV. I've seen other coins do it and be rewarded or dinged for it depending on what was found. I've even made a suggestion on how to go about it, without putting the code on github or otherwise. Looking at the whitepaper and the thought behind what is trying to be done here, with NAV version of ANON tech, it would be foolish, IMO, to put the code out publicly. If (key word) this technology is "unbreakable, unheard of, never to be bested" then why in the world would we as investors want any other shitcoin to be able to pull the code, repackage it, and then use it for their own gain? If any other 'business' was to put all of their work out into the world before their product was ready for market for anyone to copy, there would be no new companies. Those with the manpower, money or, right set of connections would beat all innovators to the punch. I too want to see the work validated and verified but, do not want the community or the dev to lose the (for lack of a better word) patent on this tech.

Proof of Developer is a grey area in my opinion. It has done well for others in some situations as it shows transparency and an bit of legitimacy. Who are these people though, and could any info about them publicly available really be viable. I'm sure in most cases it is but, it's just as easy to fake all that too.  Biggest point on this is the fact that this one developer, Satoshi, made a coin with no proof of whom he/she was and I might be going out on a limb here but, I'm sure everyone who will read this believes in his coin regardless of the fact that no one knows who the hell they are. I'm not sure the Proof of DEV will do anything worth merit plus or minus for NAV. Soopy has his reasons for his anonymity and I'm fine with that, if the coin develops and moves forward that's all that really matters.

I can't tell you to trust or not trust in NAV or Soopy, that is totally your call and you should go with your gut on it. I would however suggest that you make that decision and go with it either way. Stay and help or drop NAV and leave. We may gain in the future and we may lose every red cent we put into it, how we feel about it and how we deal with it is all on us and reflects on us in everything we do.

[RadDragon]

RadDragon, you and others have valid concerns. Hash(s) and others have an overabundance of faith. Both can be annoying as hell when played out so passionately.

Hey, I agree.  I suppose I became impassioned because my gut instincts are firing off like crazy in a bad way, and trying to explain my point of view doesn't seem to be met with much rationality and that made me further irate.

I think since the wallet was bugged on Polo I felt chained here since I could never sell or anything.  That feeling has stuck with me but, ...the wallet is fixed now, and I havn't really digested that yet.

[icekohl]

We all have our moments and who's to say I would have acted any differently, sometimes I even find myself a little on the cheerleading side, I don't quote reply like a madman though, lol.  Money is personal so we take it personally. Not all of my post is directly pointed at you either, I try to put a little in my posts for everyone and I try my best to refrain from reactionary posting, don't check my facebook, lol.  Now we move on...

[hashforce101]

                                               


                                                                                                  

The NavajoCoin Development team http://navajocoin.org/foundation is making great leaps and bonds. We have all witnessed a dramatic improvement in momentum, communication, professionalism and technical releases.

As the time planner for the development team you will find updates occurring more and more on the projects page http://navajocoin.org/projects with a clearer outline on goals and tasks occurring. I was approached by the development team and have volunteered happily for this task and am happy to say out publicly now that I have worked hard on the time plane for the past few weeks.

Now Anon is coming! In development along with all the backbone stuff. Saying that importantly keep your ideas coming on the NavajoCoin beta wallet as this will not impact on the development of Anon at all. .

We can implement suggestions now or if it takes to long we can put it on our added features section and time plan it out after Anon release.

Regarding Anon Timeplan -That is a different branch of the tree and running on its own timeline and development process.

Important
~soopy~ will be updating the Anon timeline soon on http://navajocoin.org/projects regarding Anon Transactions etc

~soopys~ Anon implementation has been mentioned in articles. The article has pointed out two important differences to DRK implementation - Some may say that Navajocoin’s anonymous transaction implementation is similar to Darkcoin’s Darksend feature. uses a decentralized ‘node’ system that has some similarities to Darkcoin‘s node-based ‘Darksend’ system. (coinssource) However, Darksend does not feature subchains or double encryption and their decentralized nodes are essentially pools. -http://www.btcfeed.net/coins/navajocoin-introducing-anon-transfers-using-subchains/. This is worth the wait believe me! sooner then you think.

Every day our community is getting stronger and becoming more enthusiastic and helpful. I was once watching from the sideline and could see NavajoCoin was a big task and needed plenty of hands. With no pre-mine and no ipo. Do you have a skill that you can see that maybe NavajoCoin can use. Write it in the forum space and let us all know.

OK now how can you help!

1. Become an active member by taking to twitter - Can you help with a NavajoCoin Social Media Blitz on twitter - 3rd October 2014 when ever you can
Please mention the New Wallet with chat #navajocoin #NAV #cryptocurrency

2. Are you good with making advertising or anything else - graphics etc  – please let us know!

Ok Regards


~hashforce101~

I have seen the code via skype. This message has been waiting approval for past 1 week and approved by ~soopy~

We going to +2000 SATS yell yeah

yeap lets move forward

[hashforce101]

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