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October 10, 2014, 02:52:47 PM |
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Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
What say Hondo on this?
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tljenson
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October 10, 2014, 02:52:52 PM |
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Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcYhmWz0.jpg&t=665&c=0DPsBQYq9ha34g)
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O_Omaha
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October 10, 2014, 02:53:06 PM |
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I had some low ball buy orders on SDC, just pulled them.
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moonchaser
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October 10, 2014, 02:53:09 PM |
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EVERYBODY !!!! READ CLOSER! STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!! IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>TEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION! AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN! HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME! STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!! HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT. YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin thestealthcoin@gmail.com DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!
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risefromtheashes74
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October 10, 2014, 02:53:40 PM |
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Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities. Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot. Seems awfully fishy. How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so. And for the record, it's Shadowcash. How is it NOT fishy? I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please. Of course... that explains everything! *facepalm*
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LongAndShort
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October 10, 2014, 02:54:16 PM |
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Before addressing the criticisms raised in this thread, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for these criticisms. Although some believe the manner in which they have been introduced may not be optimal to promote civil discourse, they are valuable criticisms nevertheless, and help to strengthen crypto-currencies in general. It is far better to address weaknesses in crypto systems during implementation than it is to address attacks after deployment.
Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.
Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.
In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.
[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.
-- Hondo
you need to say something when you quote things..you still don't get it do you?
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objectofawareness
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October 10, 2014, 02:55:22 PM |
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Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Flo3JIe9.jpg&t=665&c=xHqKenrTGUzWZA)
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October 10, 2014, 02:55:53 PM |
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yea nice price, accumulating some coins, they are cheap ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) weakhands are out, thats good ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PM |
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Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities. Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot. Seems awfully fishy. How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so. And for the record, it's Shadowcash. How is it NOT fishy? I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please. Of course... that explains everything! *facepalm* Okay, I'm out. Arguing here is a waste of time. Goodluck with your pointless arguing though!
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LongAndShort
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October 10, 2014, 02:58:25 PM |
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Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Flo3JIe9.jpg&t=665&c=xHqKenrTGUzWZA) The fact you miss the frighteningly obvious here is absurd! You condone vaporware and copyright removal and all you have is sms relay and the rest is fluff that is stealthsend mythbusted its all there https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/
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O_Omaha
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October 10, 2014, 03:01:05 PM |
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Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities. Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot. Seems awfully fishy. How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so. And for the record, it's Shadowcash. How is it NOT fishy? I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please. Of course... that explains everything! *facepalm* Okay, I'm out. Arguing here is a waste of time. Goodluck with your pointless arguing though! Tell that to your 3 SDC trolls. Any harm that comes to SDC is caused by the action of Longandshort, PookieDump, and TrollsRoyce
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LongAndShort
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October 10, 2014, 03:01:27 PM |
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Look at the frenzy you are all in and naaah nothing is up here its all sunny days ahead with your vaporware..shame on you all for the absurd denial..
The truth always comes out in the end more to come soon!
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objectofawareness
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October 10, 2014, 03:03:39 PM |
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Look at the frenzy you are all in and naaah nothing is up here its all sunny days ahead with your vaporware..shame on you all for the absurd denial..
The truth always comes out in the end more to come soon!
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moonchaser
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October 10, 2014, 03:03:56 PM |
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EVERYBODY !!!! READ CLOSER! STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!! IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>THEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION! AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN! HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME! STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!! HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT. YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin thestealthcoin@gmail.com DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!
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LongAndShort
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October 10, 2014, 03:05:05 PM |
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Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities. Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot. Seems awfully fishy. How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so. And for the record, it's Shadowcash. How is it NOT fishy? I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please. Of course... that explains everything! *facepalm* Okay, I'm out. Arguing here is a waste of time. Goodluck with your pointless arguing though! Tell that to your 3 SDC trolls. Any harm that comes to SDC is caused by the action of Longandshort, PookieDump, and TrollsRoycelol how so..becase that will hurt me..because you have nothign to say about stealthsend being vaporware!? cmon i'm mature here talking about stealthsend and wow look at you guys in a frenzy bashing shadow like its releavnt like children throwing a tantrum..pathetic comunity pathetic future! stay on topic the real topic here stealthsends a joke! bitcoin experts agree its not really work of a competent engineer with any integrity..guess thats what the community represents and follows suit with right?!
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October 10, 2014, 03:05:40 PM |
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Look at the frenzy you are all in and naaah nothing is up here its all sunny days ahead with your vaporware..shame on you all for the absurd denial..
The truth always comes out in the end more to come soon!
Frenzy would be staying awake 24/7 for days on end to bash 1 coin.
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LongAndShort
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October 10, 2014, 03:06:16 PM |
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EVERYBODY !!!! READ CLOSER! STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!! IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>THEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION! AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN! HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME! STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!! HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT. YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin thestealthcoin@gmail.com DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!! more lies from the fake factory!!! pathetic
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October 10, 2014, 03:06:28 PM |
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Look at the frenzy you are all in and naaah nothing is up here its all sunny days ahead with your vaporware..shame on you all for the absurd denial..
The truth always comes out in the end more to come soon!
Frenzy would be staying awake 24/7 for days on end to bash 1 coin. +1
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LongAndShort
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October 10, 2014, 03:07:42 PM |
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Look at the frenzy you are all in and naaah nothing is up here its all sunny days ahead with your vaporware..shame on you all for the absurd denial..
The truth always comes out in the end more to come soon!
Frenzy would be staying awake 24/7 for days on end to bash 1 coin. yeah avoid the point again!! stealthsend what are you going to do when hondo tells you finally after dragging it out that he cant do it..and if he can what are you going to tell people when they have to wait so long for a transaction!!!
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