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October 13, 2014, 01:47:25 AM
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nice, is this thread now moderated?

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This ^ separate the men from the boys

why are you so bent on getting the last punch in?

Good luck to the rest of you. I won't make a hasty generalization and group your entire community in with a few sour apples.

I'm a fan of technology. And stealthsend has the potential to be some really great tech, so good luck.

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October 13, 2014, 01:53:46 AM
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Still watching this coin but not sure about the current situation. Hopefully it gets ontrack again.

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October 13, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
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It is awesome that our thread is back. Let's go forward and make history.
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StealthCoin, StealthText, StealthSend are real innovative technologies in CryptoWorld! That's why we are here!  Cool

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October 13, 2014, 02:22:16 AM
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We have created a chat channel on Slack.com.  If you're not aware of Slack, it's a pretty awesome communication platform that the team is adopting for our internal communication as well.

If you'd like to be invited to the channel, please send me a PM with your email address where your invite can be sent.  This doesn't have to be your real email address, but you do have to be able to access it so you can register.



Just a reminder!  We've got a nice group coming together.

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October 13, 2014, 02:27:17 AM
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It is awesome that our thread is back. Let's go forward and make history.
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I do think these innovations will lead to even greater things.
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October 13, 2014, 05:21:05 AM
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nice, is this thread now moderated?

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This ^ separate the men from the boys

why are you so bent on getting the last punch in?
 

Good luck to the rest of you. I won't make a hasty generalization and group your entire community in with a few sour apples.

I'm a fan of technology. And stealthsend has the potential to be some really great tech, so good luck.
You are so right Wheatclove. It never was a feud between the communities. Most members are educated people.
Is just the few "sore apples" that are trying to manipulate both communities for their own material gain.
As it happens, and I guess they never expected this, it turned against them too, because of our reaction to trolling.
Nobody is winning out of this. Good luck to you too guys.

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October 13, 2014, 05:24:01 AM
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How do you think XST must be promoted?
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October 13, 2014, 05:52:18 AM
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How do you think XST must be promoted?

Everyone can promote XST and it don't need to be from XST team itself
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October 13, 2014, 06:21:43 AM
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How do you think XST must be promoted?

Everyone can promote XST and it don't need to be from XST team itself

Don`t you think XST must be mostly distributed and promoted in countries where local governments limit international transactions?  Like Iran, Russia, Bangladesh, etc...
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October 13, 2014, 06:45:01 AM
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Again I would like to thank those who have pointed out publicly a critical deficiency in Chandran signatures as they apply to crypto-currencies [1]. Namely, the deficiency is that Chandran signatures are untraceable. I would especially like to mention that LongAndShort's relentless research into the matter was impressive and genuinely helpful.

Most wonder exactly how the deficiency in traceability may be addressed for sub-linear ring signatures. Fortunately, work by Eiichrio Fujisaki shows that sub-linear ring signatures may be constructed such that they are traceable [2]. Thus, despite references to Chandran signatures in the the whitepaper brief, Chandran signatures will not be used in their original form. Recognize that Fujisaki's work builds on Chandran signatures, so it is a matter of semantics whether one uses the term "Chandran signatures" to refer to the proposed signature system for StealthSend.

Some may wonder if I was aware of the lack of untraceability in Chandran signatures when I wrote the whitepaper brief. I was aware of this deficiency. However, I was not aware at that time that traceability must be an integral part of the signature scheme. I believed that I could add this property ad hoc. This misconception was a result of my own lack of knowledge about cryptography. In retrospect, I would not have proposed Chandran signatures, per se, had I known then what I know now. Instead, I would have proposed the system by Fujisaki.

A misconception about the whitepaper brief is that it was somehow a perfect blueprint for StealthSend. It was not. At the time, it was suggested to me to make a technical proposal for StealthSend, so I wrote down my thoughts--unfinished and infused with my own imperfect knowledge of cryptography. At this moment I feel compelled to advise anyone that unless a product has been implemented, a whitepaper describing the product is simply a proposal and subject to revision. This advice pertains to any product of any crypto-currency.

One question that has seemed to arise in this thread is whether or not I know what I am doing when it comes to implementing the cryptography I propose. I believe that remains to be seen. I am not a cryptographer by training. It is still difficult for me to work my way through cryptography literature although I am getting better. However, keep in mind that I am a scientist by training. I am extremely comfortable at the edge not only of my own knowledge, but also that of humanity. I have always found a way to learn what I need to know in order to achieve the objectives I set out for myself. I have no reason to believe that my plans for StealthSend will be any different.

Finally, I should address the timeline. At this moment, I am behind on the roadmap. We have not been able to procure the help that we need for the wallet upgrades, despite advertising and active recruitment of developers. This could be a reflection of low bitcoin prices right now.

StealthSend is behind as well. I have tried to make frequent updates with the wallet, but these updates have come at the expense of working on StealthSend. At this moment, I can't make a projection for how long it will require. Additionally, I am hesitant to make a projection because I have come to realize that any delay may be interpreted later with suspicion. So at this point, I'll say only that it may take months to produce StealthSend.

-- Hondo

[1] http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-540-73420-8_38
[2] http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-19074-2_25
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October 13, 2014, 06:46:42 AM
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How do you think XST must be promoted?

Everyone can promote XST and it don't need to be from XST team itself

Don`t you think XST must be mostly distributed and promoted in countries where local governments limit international transactions?  Like Iran, Russia, Bangladesh, etc...

Yes, this could be one of many sections to be promoting. I like the promoting idea of spend/receive XST like OpenBaazar. Say if I have my products dirt cheap they will exchange fiat to XST to buy the products that they want. This is one of my promoting idea when OpenBaazar is released.

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http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/11/apple-pay-and-digital-currency-mean-time-is-running-out-for-physical-cash/
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October 13, 2014, 06:51:47 AM
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How do you think XST must be promoted?

I use twitter, when ever you find out something cool about this coin or just to remind people of why this coin is awesome tweet about it. Tweet links to cool articles about the coin etc
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October 13, 2014, 07:09:18 AM
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How much money can I make with this coin?

Future price prediction per coin?

I'm just here for the money I need for example to buy 6000 Stealth-coin and make 6 milllion dollar.

This should comfortably secure you 7 million dollars, so please be careful with this extra money and responsibilities. You will provide many starving children food and clean drinking water. You will be seen as modern Jesus for your good deeds and nature. Bless you.
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Again I would like to thank those who have pointed out publicly a critical deficiency in Chandran signatures as they apply to crypto-currencies [1]. Namely, the deficiency is that Chandran signatures are untraceable. I would especially like to mention that LongAndShort's relentless research into the matter was impressive and genuinely helpful.

Most wonder exactly how the deficiency in traceability may be addressed for sub-linear ring signatures. Fortunately, work by Eiichrio Fujisaki shows that sub-linear ring signatures may be constructed such that they are traceable [2]. Thus, despite references to Chandran signatures in the the whitepaper brief, Chandran signatures will not be used in their original form. Recognize that Fujisaki's work builds on Chandran signatures, so it is a matter of semantics whether one uses the term "Chandran signatures" to refer to the proposed signature system for StealthSend.

Some may wonder if I was aware of the lack of untraceability in Chandran signatures when I wrote the whitepaper brief. I was aware of this deficiency. However, I was not aware at that time that traceability must be an integral part of the signature scheme. I believed that I could add this property ad hoc. This misconception was a result of my own lack of knowledge about cryptography. In retrospect, I would not have proposed Chandran signatures, per se, had I known then what I know now. Instead, I would have proposed the system by Fujisaki.

A misconception about the whitepaper brief is that it was somehow a perfect blueprint for StealthSend. It was not. At the time, it was suggested to me to make a technical proposal for StealthSend, so I wrote down my thoughts--unfinished and infused with my own imperfect knowledge of cryptography. At this moment I feel compelled to advise anyone that unless a product has been implemented, a whitepaper describing the product is simply a proposal and subject to revision. This advice pertains to any product of any crypto-currency.

One question that has seemed to arise in this thread is whether or not I know what I am doing when it comes to implementing the cryptography I propose. I believe that remains to be seen. I am not a cryptographer by training. It is still difficult for me to work my way through cryptography literature although I am getting better. However, keep in mind that I am a scientist by training. I am extremely comfortable at the edge not only of my own knowledge, but also that of humanity. I have always found a way to learn what I need to know in order to achieve the objectives I set out for myself. I have no reason to believe that my plans for StealthSend will be any different.

Finally, I should address the timeline. At this moment, I am behind on the roadmap. We have not been able to procure the help that we need for the wallet upgrades, despite advertising and active recruitment of developers. This could be a reflection of low bitcoin prices right now.

StealthSend is behind as well. I have tried to make frequent updates with the wallet, but these updates have come at the expense of working on StealthSend. At this moment, I can't make a projection for how long it will require. Additionally, I am hesitant to make a projection because I have come to realize that any delay may be interpreted later with suspicion. So at this point, I'll say only that it may take months to produce StealthSend.

-- Hondo

[1] http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-540-73420-8_38
[2] http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-19074-2_25

Good to know and thanks for the infos. I know StealthSend is going to be game changer for anon cryptocurrency for sure.
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October 13, 2014, 07:27:40 AM
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Again I would like to thank those who have pointed out publicly a critical deficiency in Chandran signatures as they apply to crypto-currencies [1]. Namely, the deficiency is that Chandran signatures are untraceable. I would especially like to mention that LongAndShort's relentless research into the matter was impressive and genuinely helpful.

Most wonder exactly how the deficiency in traceability may be addressed for sub-linear ring signatures. Fortunately, work by Eiichrio Fujisaki shows that sub-linear ring signatures may be constructed such that they are traceable [2]. Thus, despite references to Chandran signatures in the the whitepaper brief, Chandran signatures will not be used in their original form. Recognize that Fujisaki's work builds on Chandran signatures, so it is a matter of semantics whether one uses the term "Chandran signatures" to refer to the proposed signature system for StealthSend.

Some may wonder if I was aware of the lack of untraceability in Chandran signatures when I wrote the whitepaper brief. I was aware of this deficiency. However, I was not aware at that time that traceability must be an integral part of the signature scheme. I believed that I could add this property ad hoc. This misconception was a result of my own lack of knowledge about cryptography. In retrospect, I would not have proposed Chandran signatures, per se, had I known then what I know now. Instead, I would have proposed the system by Fujisaki.

A misconception about the whitepaper brief is that it was somehow a perfect blueprint for StealthSend. It was not. At the time, it was suggested to me to make a technical proposal for StealthSend, so I wrote down my thoughts--unfinished and infused with my own imperfect knowledge of cryptography. At this moment I feel compelled to advise anyone that unless a product has been implemented, a whitepaper describing the product is simply a proposal and subject to revision. This advice pertains to any product of any crypto-currency.

One question that has seemed to arise in this thread is whether or not I know what I am doing when it comes to implementing the cryptography I propose. I believe that remains to be seen. I am not a cryptographer by training. It is still difficult for me to work my way through cryptography literature although I am getting better. However, keep in mind that I am a scientist by training. I am extremely comfortable at the edge not only of my own knowledge, but also that of humanity. I have always found a way to learn what I need to know in order to achieve the objectives I set out for myself. I have no reason to believe that my plans for StealthSend will be any different.

Finally, I should address the timeline. At this moment, I am behind on the roadmap. We have not been able to procure the help that we need for the wallet upgrades, despite advertising and active recruitment of developers. This could be a reflection of low bitcoin prices right now.

StealthSend is behind as well. I have tried to make frequent updates with the wallet, but these updates have come at the expense of working on StealthSend. At this moment, I can't make a projection for how long it will require. Additionally, I am hesitant to make a projection because I have come to realize that any delay may be interpreted later with suspicion. So at this point, I'll say only that it may take months to produce StealthSend.

-- Hondo

[1] http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-540-73420-8_38
[2] http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-19074-2_25

Hondo, you must do your best to make a revolution in anonymous crypto coin world !
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October 13, 2014, 07:50:51 AM
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One question that has seemed to arise in this thread is whether or not I know what I am doing when it comes to implementing the cryptography I propose. I believe that remains to be seen. I am not a cryptographer by training. It is still difficult for me to work my way through cryptography literature although I am getting better. However, keep in mind that I am a scientist by training. I am extremely comfortable at the edge not only of my own knowledge, but also that of humanity. I have always found a way to learn what I need to know in order to achieve the objectives I set out for myself. I have no reason to believe that my plans for StealthSend will be any different.

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October 13, 2014, 07:51:22 AM
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for me, this coin is dead, is a SCAM, an Dev at the time of the attacks completely did not say anything. not helped their community, I think admin is dishonest and something new manipulates. I was lost 30% XTS
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Again I would like to thank those who have pointed out publicly a critical deficiency in Chandran signatures as they apply to crypto-currencies [1]. Namely, the deficiency is that Chandran signatures are untraceable. I would especially like to mention that LongAndShort's relentless research into the matter was impressive and genuinely helpful.

Most wonder exactly how the deficiency in traceability may be addressed for sub-linear ring signatures. Fortunately, work by Eiichrio Fujisaki shows that sub-linear ring signatures may be constructed such that they are traceable [2]. Thus, despite references to Chandran signatures in the the whitepaper brief, Chandran signatures will not be used in their original form. Recognize that Fujisaki's work builds on Chandran signatures, so it is a matter of semantics whether one uses the term "Chandran signatures" to refer to the proposed signature system for StealthSend.

Some may wonder if I was aware of the lack of untraceability in Chandran signatures when I wrote the whitepaper brief. I was aware of this deficiency. However, I was not aware at that time that traceability must be an integral part of the signature scheme. I believed that I could add this property ad hoc. This misconception was a result of my own lack of knowledge about cryptography. In retrospect, I would not have proposed Chandran signatures, per se, had I known then what I know now. Instead, I would have proposed the system by Fujisaki.

A misconception about the whitepaper brief is that it was somehow a perfect blueprint for StealthSend. It was not. At the time, it was suggested to me to make a technical proposal for StealthSend, so I wrote down my thoughts--unfinished and infused with my own imperfect knowledge of cryptography. At this moment I feel compelled to advise anyone that unless a product has been implemented, a whitepaper describing the product is simply a proposal and subject to revision. This advice pertains to any product of any crypto-currency.

One question that has seemed to arise in this thread is whether or not I know what I am doing when it comes to implementing the cryptography I propose. I believe that remains to be seen. I am not a cryptographer by training. It is still difficult for me to work my way through cryptography literature although I am getting better. However, keep in mind that I am a scientist by training. I am extremely comfortable at the edge not only of my own knowledge, but also that of humanity. I have always found a way to learn what I need to know in order to achieve the objectives I set out for myself. I have no reason to believe that my plans for StealthSend will be any different.

Finally, I should address the timeline. At this moment, I am behind on the roadmap. We have not been able to procure the help that we need for the wallet upgrades, despite advertising and active recruitment of developers. This could be a reflection of low bitcoin prices right now.

StealthSend is behind as well. I have tried to make frequent updates with the wallet, but these updates have come at the expense of working on StealthSend. At this moment, I can't make a projection for how long it will require. Additionally, I am hesitant to make a projection because I have come to realize that any delay may be interpreted later with suspicion. So at this point, I'll say only that it may take months to produce StealthSend.

-- Hondo

[1] http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-540-73420-8_38
[2] http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-19074-2_25
Hondo, I'm impressed. You are a truly sincere person, and that is rare. I really don't know how many coin community can say that about their dev. That's why I'm not selling my xst, and because I really believe you will do your best to make out of XST the best crypto coin on the market. Actually I have no reason to doubt that. Until now every promise was fulfilled.

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October 13, 2014, 07:59:15 AM
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for me, this coin is dead, is a SCAM, an Dev at the time of the attacks completely did not say anything. not helped their community, I think admin is dishonest and something new manipulates. I was lost 30% XTS
Of course you lost if you sold out of fear. But as you can see we are still here, and the dev is still with us working on the project.
If you let a troll to scare away any investment you make, then crypto is not for you.
I don't mean to offend you, but when you call a coin scam it means that you know a lot about that coin, its dev and its technology.
It doesn't seem like it.
The dev would have made a fool of himself if he would had get involved in trolling.
You noticed very well the aggressiveness of the attacks.
You could at anytime PM him..or go to the stealth private chat https://stealthcoin.slack.com
If you panic...this is going to happen to any trolled coin from now on.

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for me, this coin is dead, is a SCAM, an Dev at the time of the attacks completely did not say anything. not helped their community, I think admin is dishonest and something new manipulates. I was lost 30% XTS

If you don't sell then you lost nothing. Are you a panic seller? Which you contributed to your own lose. Most people expecting get rich quick in this crypto world.
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