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Bitcoin is NOT illegal in Iran..it's a bank director who is telling that it is illegal....but the government is the one who decides. And they say it's not.
http://smallmedia.org.uk/sites/default/files/u8/IIIP_June2014.pdfThe article does say that the,"Although the government appears to be taking a hard stance over the currency,there have been no examples so far taking action to crack down..." (page 4) Who's to say what they'll do, Iran is in turmoil at the moment with sanctions. It's in turmoil, let alone trying to use a fake coin like Uro or even trying to trade bitcoin will be too difficult. Still doesn't support the attempt by a company that claims to have an office in HK when it doesn't to trade in Iran. What ever happened to the video they were supposed to have done from Iran?? |
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solid12345
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Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong? Couldn’t find anything about him.
Clifton Tang https://www.linkedin.com/pub/clifton-tang/4/4a8/b00Business Development Manager / Consultant Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited He even gets an endorsement from Wallace Chau, Corporate Executive at Bang & Olufsen HK. Bang & Olufsen, one of the biggest audio companies in the world... http://www.sovereigngroup.com/files/sovereign_report/SovReport38opt.pdf"In Singapore, our office continues to expand and again we are in final negotiations to purchase a fully licensed Singapore company. More on this will appear in the next addition. In Hong Kong, we have appointed several new consultants including John McGale, a New Zealand-qualified trust and company expert lawyer, Yuseff Murphy who moved from our Abu Dhabi office, and Clifton Tang."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_GroupSovereign Group is a Gibraltar based corporate services company funded in 1987. Sovereign's core business is setting up and managing tax-efficient structures to assist wealth management, foreign property ownership and cross-border business. The Sovereign Group has offices or agents in most major offshore and onshore financial centres worldwide.
The company mostly provides fiduciary services to high net worth individuals and their families, Sovereign’s clients include expatriates, entrepreneurs and businesses of all sizes. Sovereign also offers a wide range of services that are natural adjuncts to their main activity, including asset management, financing, specialist tax advice and credit cards.
Howard Bilton, a tax lawyer, is the chairman of the Sovereign Group. Bilton was responsible for setting up the Sovereign Art Foundation which runs both the Sovereign Asian and European Art Prize, turning his art-collecting hobby into what is now Asia’s largest art prize."What is the street address for Sovereign Group? Suites 1601-1603, Kinwick Centre
32 Hollywood Road, Central
Hong KongWhat is the street address for GES HK?
Suites 01-03, 16th Floor, Kinwick Centre, 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong KongAnd who is on the name of GES's Hong Kong tax documents along with address? http://www.scribd.com/doc/235214148/PS300016750373-01-Annual-Financials-2013-AmendedSovereign Secretaries (HK) Limited! With the same Kinwick Centre address. So ladies and gentleman, if Clifton Tang is doing bitch work answering trolling emails for GES and representing their services, what does that tell you about the size and financial scope of GES? The only oddity is Tang's linkedin says he left Sovereign last year but perhaps he came back or still does services for them. |
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August 30, 2014, 05:35:19 PM |
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I just wanted to let you know Trollful, I feel safer knowing you have my back and that I can invest with confidence in Uro coin.  |
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August 30, 2014, 05:43:12 PM |
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It's the only way out for iran to run on crypto's...they don't ban it...that would be stupid |
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August 30, 2014, 05:47:30 PM |
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Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong? Couldn’t find anything about him.
Clifton Tang https://www.linkedin.com/pub/clifton-tang/4/4a8/b00Business Development Manager / Consultant Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited My linkedin says Current Director at InterGlobal Trust Limited Director at PINS Capital Group Director at Hong Kong and Myanmar Business Cooperation Limited Past Business Development Manager / Consultant at Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited |
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solid12345
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August 30, 2014, 05:51:51 PM |
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Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong? Couldn’t find anything about him.
Clifton Tang https://www.linkedin.com/pub/clifton-tang/4/4a8/b00Business Development Manager / Consultant Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited My linkedin says Current Director at InterGlobal Trust Limited Director at PINS Capital Group Director at Hong Kong and Myanmar Business Cooperation Limited Past Business Development Manager / Consultant at Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited So is Coinosaur lying about getting the email then? Still doesn't change the fact Sovereign Group is tied to GES, the paperwork and address proves this. |
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August 30, 2014, 06:04:17 PM |
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Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong? Couldn’t find anything about him.
Clifton Tang https://www.linkedin.com/pub/clifton-tang/4/4a8/b00Business Development Manager / Consultant Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited My linkedin says Current Director at InterGlobal Trust Limited Director at PINS Capital Group Director at Hong Kong and Myanmar Business Cooperation Limited Past Business Development Manager / Consultant at Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited So is Coinosaur lying about getting the email then? Still doesn't change the fact Sovereign Group is tied to GES, the paperwork and address proves this. Addresses prove nothing. I work in a building along with a known company (had to edit this) above us at next floor yet we have no relation with them. The addresses are not the same...besides it's a building with a lot of numbers .. Google it to find lots at the same 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong Besides Soverign Groups is juts a company that helps setting offshore companies. Shady business. Whenever i hear about sovereign funds I think about James Timothy . |
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The addresses are not the same...besides it's a building with a lot of numbers .. Google it to find lots at the same 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong
The addresses are the same, just phrased differently Sovereign Groups address is Suites 1601-1603, Kinwick Centre GES HK's address is Suites 01-03, 16th Floor, Kinwick Centre, 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong Get it, its the same thing, it is the 16th floor of this building and suites 1-3, aka 1601-1603. Also Sovereign is listed as their tax rep on their HK license documents. Besides Soverign Groups is juts a company that helps setting offshore companies. Shady business. You mean like that "scammy" corporation Burger King moving its tax base to Canada? Also is anyone who is into crypto have any room to talk about finding ways to hide or shield money from the taxman? And I should think an international corporation with branches around the world would deem it necessary to hire a firm to manage multiple tax responsibilities in various nations. |
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August 30, 2014, 06:30:25 PM |
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Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong? Couldn’t find anything about him.
Clifton Tang https://www.linkedin.com/pub/clifton-tang/4/4a8/b00Business Development Manager / Consultant Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited My linkedin says Current Director at InterGlobal Trust Limited Director at PINS Capital Group Director at Hong Kong and Myanmar Business Cooperation Limited Past Business Development Manager / Consultant at Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited Can you give us link to your linkden? |
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niothor
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August 30, 2014, 07:43:43 PM |
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Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong? Couldn’t find anything about him.
Clifton Tang https://www.linkedin.com/pub/clifton-tang/4/4a8/b00Business Development Manager / Consultant Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited My linkedin says Current Director at InterGlobal Trust Limited Director at PINS Capital Group Director at Hong Kong and Myanmar Business Cooperation Limited Past Business Development Manager / Consultant at Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited Can you give us link to your linkden? No and I don't see the point of it. When i said my linkedin says... it means that when i open his profile: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/clifton-tang/4/4a8/b00I can see the word PAST pretty clear. But he intentionally removed it when copy pasting the info. |
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August 30, 2014, 07:45:02 PM |
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The addresses are not the same...besides it's a building with a lot of numbers .. Google it to find lots at the same 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong
The addresses are the same, just phrased differently Sovereign Groups address is Suites 1601-1603, Kinwick Centre GES HK's address is Suites 01-03, 16th Floor, Kinwick Centre, 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong Get it, its the same thing, it is the 16th floor of this building and suites 1-3, aka 1601-1603. Also Sovereign is listed as their tax rep on their HK license documents. If you guys continue in this way in two months we will find out that Microsoft , Apple and Magic Mars Money are all behind this coin. |
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August 30, 2014, 08:35:19 PM |
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Niothor no offense but I feel like I'm living in crazy land with you. So because some guys linkedin says "past experience" you are going to disregard official tax and street documents? Maybe the guy left and came back and was too lazy to change his linkedin, who knows, but what does it matter, how did Coinosaur know to look up this Clifton Tang specifically to craft a fake email? Especially a guy who seems to have a vested interest in fudding to begin with. It's like all the morons who called the Rivaa emails fake even though it came from a proven employee name available on Rivaas website and then finally we had to wait for Rivaa themselves to put it on their website and by then people were like /yawn
Do people not apply Occam's Razor anymore, the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.
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August 30, 2014, 09:32:53 PM |
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Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong? Couldn’t find anything about him.
Clifton Tang https://www.linkedin.com/pub/clifton-tang/4/4a8/b00Business Development Manager / Consultant Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited He even gets an endorsement from Wallace Chau, Corporate Executive at Bang & Olufsen HK. Bang & Olufsen, one of the biggest audio companies in the world... http://www.sovereigngroup.com/files/sovereign_report/SovReport38opt.pdf"In Singapore, our office continues to expand and again we are in final negotiations to purchase a fully licensed Singapore company. More on this will appear in the next addition. In Hong Kong, we have appointed several new consultants including John McGale, a New Zealand-qualified trust and company expert lawyer, Yuseff Murphy who moved from our Abu Dhabi office, and Clifton Tang."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_GroupSovereign Group is a Gibraltar based corporate services company funded in 1987. Sovereign's core business is setting up and managing tax-efficient structures to assist wealth management, foreign property ownership and cross-border business. The Sovereign Group has offices or agents in most major offshore and onshore financial centres worldwide.
The company mostly provides fiduciary services to high net worth individuals and their families, Sovereign’s clients include expatriates, entrepreneurs and businesses of all sizes. Sovereign also offers a wide range of services that are natural adjuncts to their main activity, including asset management, financing, specialist tax advice and credit cards.
Howard Bilton, a tax lawyer, is the chairman of the Sovereign Group. Bilton was responsible for setting up the Sovereign Art Foundation which runs both the Sovereign Asian and European Art Prize, turning his art-collecting hobby into what is now Asia’s largest art prize."What is the street address for Sovereign Group? Suites 1601-1603, Kinwick Centre
32 Hollywood Road, Central
Hong KongWhat is the street address for GES HK?
Suites 01-03, 16th Floor, Kinwick Centre, 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong KongAnd who is on the name of GES's Hong Kong tax documents along with address? http://www.scribd.com/doc/235214148/PS300016750373-01-Annual-Financials-2013-AmendedSovereign Secretaries (HK) Limited! With the same Kinwick Centre address. So ladies and gentleman, if Clifton Tang is doing bitch work answering trolling emails for GES and representing their services, what does that tell you about the size and financial scope of GES? The only oddity is Tang's linkedin says he left Sovereign last year but perhaps he came back or still does services for them. I don't trust it |
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August 30, 2014, 09:57:50 PM |
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Niothor no offense but I feel like I'm living in crazy land with you. So because some guys linkedin says "past experience" you are going to disregard official tax and street documents? Maybe the guy left and came back and was too lazy to change his linkedin, who knows, but what does it matter, how did Coinosaur know to look up this Clifton Tang specifically to craft a fake email? Especially a guy who seems to have a vested interest in fudding to begin with. It's like all the morons who called the Rivaa emails fake even though it came from a proven employee name available on Rivaas website and then finally we had to wait for Rivaa themselves to put it on their website and by then people were like /yawn
Do people not apply Occam's Razor anymore, the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.
I don't care who this Coinosaur guy is nor what this Tanga guy is What i was saying is that they guy currently has no relation to SG based exactly on the evidence you provided so he can be neglected or at least SG involvement in this. And if indeed the addresses are the same it makes the thing even more fishy. There are a lot of guys from HK here , for a small bounty there will be somebody who can visit their "office" and put an end to this shit. ps. I wound't trust on this "mission" somebody who had posted even once on this thread before nor a less than 3 months old account. |
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August 30, 2014, 09:58:44 PM |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
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niothor
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August 30, 2014, 10:00:22 PM |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
And you are here on bitcointalk because of..... Do you even have a clue why bitcoin was created and what is means? Oh wait you're one of those guys who only spend time in the altcoin section and trying to defend their coins from FUD..... |
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August 30, 2014, 10:14:55 PM |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
And you are here on bitcointalk because of..... Do you even have a clue why bitcoin was created and what is means? Oh wait you're one of those guys who only spend time in the altcoin section and trying to defend their coins from FUD..... Can you shower upon us some of your knowledge why Bitcoin was created? In my opinion it was created to make financial system decentralized and easy to use with no international boundaries. And finally you accept that you are a FUDer and I am defending my coin from you. Nobody here need you to trust anything about URO, nobody cares what you think, you have presented your point already and everybody has discarded it. This is a moderated(to keep away non believers) forum for URO believers, why you keep coming back here, even though you are not interested in it? or you are interested but hiding something. We will definitely think about what you are saying but before can you please post the information I have requested my previous post above? "Proof of Credibility" |
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niothor
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August 30, 2014, 10:20:06 PM |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
And you are here on bitcointalk because of..... Do you even have a clue why bitcoin was created and what is means? Oh wait you're one of those guys who only spend time in the altcoin section and trying to defend their coins from FUD..... Can you shower upon us some of your knowledge why Bitcoin was created? In my opinion it was created to make financial system decentralized and easy to use with no international boundaries. And finally you accept that you are a FUDer and I am defending my coin from you. Nobody here need you to trust anything about URO, nobody cares what you think, you have presented your point already and everybody has discarded it. This is a moderated(to keep away non believers) forum for URO believers, why you keep coming back here, even though you are not interested in it? or you are interested but hiding something. We will definitely think about what you are saying but before can you please post the information I have requested my previous post above? "Proof of Credibility" So if my opinion is not taken into account by anybody why are you so angry?? Is your bag shaking mr bagholder ? Also , lol....moderated topic means only for believers? What is this? Pravda? Gulag Post? Bitcoin is viewed mr bagholder as a toll of freedom. Freedom which you little piece of ... uro... seem to not like it even a bit. So , grab your bag and hodl it till UroCoin reaches the moon. |
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August 30, 2014, 10:31:21 PM |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
And you are here on bitcointalk because of..... Do you even have a clue why bitcoin was created and what is means? Oh wait you're one of those guys who only spend time in the altcoin section and trying to defend their coins from FUD..... Can you shower upon us some of your knowledge why Bitcoin was created? In my opinion it was created to make financial system decentralized and easy to use with no international boundaries. And finally you accept that you are a FUDer and I am defending my coin from you. Nobody here need you to trust anything about URO, nobody cares what you think, you have presented your point already and everybody has discarded it. This is a moderated(to keep away non believers) forum for URO believers, why you keep coming back here, even though you are not interested in it? or you are interested but hiding something. We will definitely think about what you are saying but before can you please post the information I have requested my previous post above? "Proof of Credibility" So if my opinion is not taken into account by anybody why are you so angry?? Is your bag shaking mr bagholder ? Also , lol....moderated topic means only for believers? What is this? Pravda? Gulag Post? Bitcoin is viewed mr bagholder as a toll of freedom. Freedom which you little piece of ... uro... seem to not like it even a bit. So , grab your bag and hodl it till UroCoin reaches the moon. Yes it is viewed as a toll of freedom that why I said decentralized (free from control) and I am not angry at all, in fact I am laughing at your obsession about URO hahahaha. And I think you are confusing between toll of freedom and troll of freedom, you are being the latter one. URO is the perfect example of fairness and decentralization with no-premine and fair reward structure. Don't worry about my bags, I hold lot of bags of different coins and they are not going anywhere. Btw how cleverly you are ignoring my questions above about your LinkedIn and URO history, it has nothing to do with freedom but it will ensure us about your credibility. Lol |
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niothor
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August 30, 2014, 10:34:24 PM |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
And you are here on bitcointalk because of..... Do you even have a clue why bitcoin was created and what is means? Oh wait you're one of those guys who only spend time in the altcoin section and trying to defend their coins from FUD..... Can you shower upon us some of your knowledge why Bitcoin was created? In my opinion it was created to make financial system decentralized and easy to use with no international boundaries. And finally you accept that you are a FUDer and I am defending my coin from you. Nobody here need you to trust anything about URO, nobody cares what you think, you have presented your point already and everybody has discarded it. This is a moderated(to keep away non believers) forum for URO believers, why you keep coming back here, even though you are not interested in it? or you are interested but hiding something. We will definitely think about what you are saying but before can you please post the information I have requested my previous post above? "Proof of Credibility" So if my opinion is not taken into account by anybody why are you so angry?? Is your bag shaking mr bagholder ? Also , lol....moderated topic means only for believers? What is this? Pravda? Gulag Post? Bitcoin is viewed mr bagholder as a toll of freedom. Freedom which you little piece of ... uro... seem to not like it even a bit. So , grab your bag and hodl it till UroCoin reaches the moon. Yes it is viewed as a toll of freedom that why I said decentralized (free from control) and I am not angry at all, in fact I am laughing at your obsession about URO hahahaha. And I think you are confusing between toll of freedom and troll of freedom, you are being the latter one. URO is the perfect example of fairness and decentralization with no-premine and fair reward structure. Don't worry about my bags, I hold lot of bags of different coins and they are not going anywhere. Btw how cleverly you are ignoring my questions above about your LinkedIn and URO history, it has nothing to do with freedom but it will ensure us about your credibility. Lol The moment I will claim I have a 300 billion company in HK , NZ , Mars. Jupiter and Hoth you will see my Linkedin profile. I am not here to prove anything about me. The indie guy with two bucks in his pockets claiming to be a billionaire has. As for my URO trading history here it is: |
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