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[Djinou94]

Daily Dev Update - 7/31/2014

Just checking in. Work on KeyOS is going well and we will have a beta for the community to test in Virtualbox soon.

In the meantime we are compiling Mac OS and Debian/Ubuntu Linux wallets with the anon feature built in. I expect release tomorrow at latest.

Regarding the "de-anon" FUD - it is exactly that, FUD. Multiple members of the dev team have tested it and it doesn't de-anon anything, it merely gives a mixer address as output.

The program's output string even says "Mixer Address (Your wallet sent coins to this mixer)" - it doesn't even attempt to de-anon the entire transaction, and can't.

Decentralized anon is also a longer term goal we are working on.


The KeyCoin promo video is on target for Saturday release.

We are currently working with CoinsSource and Bittrex to be one of the first "vetted safe" coins, hopefully soon enough for it to be featured in our "Sponsored" bittrex banner.

Thanks all for support, fuel up those engines

Look at this :

https://twitter.com/vangainvest/status/494978517625753600

This is a great update. Thanks!

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[mlord1010]

Looks like the whales have decided to take us back up to 200k

The buy support is at 170, the "whales" are at 150k,  It's bots that have taken it to 200k.

[mlord1010]

Looks like the whales have decided to take us back up to 200k

The buy support is at 170, the "whales" are at 150k,  It's bots that have taken it to 200k.

look at bittrex, there is your truth... 2btc in buys above 150k

[damiano]

Looks like the whales have decided to take us back up to 200k

The buy support is at 170, the "whales" are at 150k,  It's bots that have taken it to 200k.

you have a lot to learn..


who do you think owns these bots?  small day traders?

[mlord1010]

Looks like the whales have decided to take us back up to 200k

The buy support is at 170, the "whales" are at 150k,  It's bots that have taken it to 200k.

you have a lot to learn..


who do you think owns these bots?  small day traders?

Do you even know what a bot is? anyone can run one.  and if you think 2btc of pumping is a whale, then I'm sorry, you have a lot to learn.
http://advancedtradebot.com/

[tristartek]

I was curious, so I decided to go through all of pbremen01's history...He seems to be very fixated on the following

1) CryptCoin (majority of his posts)
2) Darkcoin
3) KeyCoin
4) PinkCoin

He only posts in those and its pretty much only about the anonymity of a coin.

Yes, I'm mostly only interested in the anonymity.

How come you havent bugged XC or VRC yet?  Hmmm conspiracy here.

[tristartek]

I was curious, so I decided to go through all of pbremen01's history...He seems to be very fixated on the following

1) CryptCoin (majority of his posts)
2) Darkcoin
3) KeyCoin
4) PinkCoin

He only posts in those and its pretty much only about the anonymity of a coin.

Yes, I'm mostly only interested in the anonymity.

I find it interesting that you have avoided

Cloak
XC
Super

Even in the earlier days when development was still going on. 

Sorry, I can't be familiar with every crapcoin out there. I registered on bitcointalk not long ago.

Ah so you envisage all of them as crapcoin's, now your base standpoint becomes clearer.
You will still hammer on like a 80 y/o prostitute who doesn't know she is past her sell-buy date

If no one is capable of proving that the anonymity actually works, then these coins are worthless from the anonymity standpoint.

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

[Cornett]

[KryptoFoo]

Daily Dev Update - 7/31/2014

Just checking in. Work on KeyOS is going well and we will have a beta for the community to test in Virtualbox soon.

In the meantime we are compiling Mac OS and Debian/Ubuntu Linux wallets with the anon feature built in. I expect release tomorrow at latest.

Regarding the "de-anon" FUD - it is exactly that, FUD. Multiple members of the dev team have tested it and it doesn't de-anon anything, it merely gives a mixer address as output.

The program's output string even says "Mixer Address (Your wallet sent coins to this mixer)" - it doesn't even attempt to de-anon the entire transaction, and can't.

Decentralized anon is also a longer term goal we are working on.


The KeyCoin promo video is on target for Saturday release.

We are currently working with CoinsSource and Bittrex to be one of the first "vetted safe" coins, hopefully soon enough for it to be featured in our "Sponsored" bittrex banner.

Thanks all for support, fuel up those engines

Great job team. Good idea with CoinsSource vetting, will go a long way to lend confidence to keycoin.

[jeno81]

Daily Dev Update - 7/31/2014

Just checking in. Work on KeyOS is going well and we will have a beta for the community to test in Virtualbox soon.

In the meantime we are compiling Mac OS and Debian/Ubuntu Linux wallets with the anon feature built in. I expect release tomorrow at latest.

Regarding the "de-anon" FUD - it is exactly that, FUD. Multiple members of the dev team have tested it and it doesn't de-anon anything, it merely gives a mixer address as output.

The program's output string even says "Mixer Address (Your wallet sent coins to this mixer)" - it doesn't even attempt to de-anon the entire transaction, and can't.

Decentralized anon is also a longer term goal we are working on.


The KeyCoin promo video is on target for Saturday release.

We are currently working with CoinsSource and Bittrex to be one of the first "vetted safe" coins, hopefully soon enough for it to be featured in our "Sponsored" bittrex banner.

Thanks all for support, fuel up those engines Smiley



Relax everyone, the anon works fine! 

[pbremen01]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

[letitbit]

ARRGGggh........ always catch in wrong price, bought too high again

[qwep]

ARRGGggh........ always catch in wrong price, bought too high again

buy hight sell low 

[Cornett]

ARRGGggh........ always catch in wrong price, bought too high again

you will laugh about your own words soon Don't worry, be happy

[vectisitch]

Patience is the key. Haa. See what I did there? Key?Get it? I'll  get me coat

[WheresMyWallet]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.

[pbremen01]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.

You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.

[WheresMyWallet]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.

You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

[pbremen01]

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this case it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).

[pbremen01]

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).

But you can quickly check if this program (probably) works. Do the following:
a) when you send coins anonymously you can see several transactions in your wallet,
b) all transactions will send coins to one address (this address should be returned by the program),
c) sum the amounts of the coins that were sent to this address,
d) the sum should be equal to the amount of coins received + some transaction fees,
e) check the blockchain (near the block that included these transactions) and check if there exist any other address that received the same amount of coins (coins received by recipient + some transaction fees). You probably won't find it. This is how this program finds the mixer address.