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[Hel]

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).

sooo in any of your scenarios you win? ignore activated

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[WheresMyWallet]

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).

sooo in any of your scenarios you win? ignore activated

You beat me to it Hel.
It really doesn't matter that it can be proved false, he is still going to harp on at it like the missing gospel from the bible.

[pbremen01]

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).

sooo in any of your scenarios you win? ignore activated

Nobody wins. People must try it and see if this deanonymization process works in their cases or not.

The problem is that it is really hard to prove to the third parties that someone doesn't own some addresses. But people can easily prove this to themselves because they have list of all their addresses (if they show this list to the third party it can't be proved easily that the list is (or isn't) complete).

[KryptoFoo]

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

blah blah blah

More blah blah blah

hopefully this guy has accumulated enough keycoin soon that he will just go away. Like roaches these trolls.

[hoshigakiii]

So low price.

[RichardT]

The problem is that it is really hard to prove to the third parties that someone doesn't own some addresses. But people can easily prove this to themselves because they have list of all their addresses (if they show this list to the third party it can't be proved easily that the list is (or isn't) complete).

So after all that, you're basically saying that in order for this to work, people need to know their own wallet addresses to prove that the coins came from their wallet? Well no shit.  Isn't that the whole point of anon? Only the person sending should know which address the coins came from.

Can't believe we keep feeding this troll (I'm guilty of this as well).  He's definitely persistent.

[pbremen01]

So after all that, you're basically saying that in order for this to work, people need to know their own wallet addresses to prove that the coins came from their wallet? Well no shit.  Isn't that the whole point of anon? Only the person sending should know which address the coins came from.

You didn't understand correctly. People who want to "prove" to themselves that this method of deanonymization works will have to know their own wallet addresses.

The receiver of the coins doesn't have to know wallet addresses of the sender because he can use this program to find them.

[tristartek]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

Do you wear a tinfoil hat too?

[tristartek]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.

You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.

Did you try it? If not then you should stop writing in the thread RIGHT NOW, go to your commodore and try it yourself.  Stop looking for ppl to do your work for you. There have been about 5 to 6 ppl that have tried this and already said it does not work, including myself.  Are you really that diluted?

[hoshigakiii]

I'm looking for reason why #1 on rich list gone? He had around 200k (20%).
I will watch what is going on.

[WheresMyWallet]

I'm looking for reason why #1 on rich list gone? He had around 200k (20%).
I will watch what is going on.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people haven't taken at least a little of their profits out.

[hoshigakiii]

I'm looking for reason why #1 on rich list gone? He had around 200k (20%).
I will watch what is going on.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people haven't taken at least a little of their profits out.

Little? 100-200k keycoins is a little?

[MZD]

I'm looking for reason why #1 on rich list gone? He had around 200k (20%).
I will watch what is going on.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people haven't taken at least a little of their profits out.

Little? 100-200k keycoins is a little?

Yes. Yes it is.

[WheresMyWallet]

I'm looking for reason why #1 on rich list gone? He had around 200k (20%).
I will watch what is going on.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people haven't taken at least a little of their profits out.

Little? 100-200k keycoins is a little?

Yes. Yes it is.

Maybe they also split their wallets up a bit

[damiano]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.

You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.

Just tried it and it doesn't work. 

I really don't see your point anymore.  Why don't you post a video of yourself using the program proving your correct?  Please don't tell me your to busy or you don't have your linux laptop with you again.

[KryptoFoo]

Breakout imminent?

edit: never mind, don't want to jinx it

[pbremen01]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.

You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.

Did you try it? If not then you should stop writing in the thread RIGHT NOW, go to your commodore and try it yourself.  Stop looking for ppl to do your work for you. There have been about 5 to 6 ppl that have tried this and already said it does not work, including myself.  Are you really that diluted?

Yes, I tried it and I could exactly reproduce all the steps.

People are just saying that it doesn't work but no one is explaining which step doesn't work and why.

[pbremen01]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.

You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.

Just tried it and it doesn't work. 

I really don't see your point anymore.  Why don't you post a video of yourself using the program proving your correct?  Please don't tell me your to busy or you don't have your linux laptop with you again.

Which step doesn't work?

What can be proved in video? I could use fake version of this program. But you can always compile the program, run it and check the results for yourself.

[kreendurron]

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).

I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.

You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.

Just tried it and it doesn't work. 

I really don't see your point anymore.  Why don't you post a video of yourself using the program proving your correct?  Please don't tell me your to busy or you don't have your linux laptop with you again.

Which step doesn't work?

What can be proved in video? I could use fake version of this program. But you can always compile the program, run it and check the results for yourself.

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GOOD OL' ELMERS AT IT AGAIN!

He shall from this day forward be dubbed.... Elmer Fud

[darkproton]

I'm looking for reason why #1 on rich list gone? He had around 200k (20%).
I will watch what is going on.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people haven't taken at least a little of their profits out.

Little? 100-200k keycoins is a little?

Yes. Yes it is.

Maybe they also split their wallets up a bit

I just needed to split it up. Cold wallets. No big deal.