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[CrimsonPermanentAssurance]

Was this sharp drop from yesterday all about (and only about) the (bogus?) Coinsource report?

Largely so, but it was also a coordinated, bullshit FUD attack, all of which was false information.

However, CoinsSource could and honestly maybe should be sued. The way they handled things was about as unprofessional and ridiculous as a company could have behaved. I would even call it slander.

CoinsSource's behavior was inexcusable and damaging to the entire crypto community. They should be forced into an irrevocable 100 BTC buy of Key to make up for their crap.

Well, they're in a tough spot. There's a lot of demand out there for a vetting service, but vetting carries it's own risks and headaches if it isn't done the right way. Heck, even if it is done the right way. My issue with coinsource is that much of the site, including the About US, page doesnt inspire confidence - looks slapped together, not a sleek professional-looking operation like CoinDesk. Guess that takes funding.

A "tough spot" does not possibly account for their behavior.

You don't issue a perfect trust rating and then SEND OUT TWEETS that do NOTHING but make people DIRELY QUESTION that trust rating, ONLY TO END UP BACK at standing by your ORIGINAL perfect trust rating. It's absolute horse shit. CoinsSource should pay for it by losing all their credibility (and they really should be made to actually PAY for their damages).

Any "investigation" they were doing should have been done in private.

Their tweets were more damaging than anyone here probably realizes.

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[Strugg]

Don't worry man this will be up after a few hours. Imagine the prices yeterday and today. Too sharp drop means it will recover soon because nothing changed really.

And you, sir, are scum of the absolute worst sort. All you did was support the FUD attack, and now you are changing your tune. Did you buy enough at low prices, asshole?

Well, you guys should just never ever panic sell Especially not when prices have gone down so low. Think about it. 1M supply, devs here, work in progress, nothing happened really. So why do people sell? Panic. Nothing more. Just watch the rich list. They are holding. Why?

I'm not really into KeyCoin, I can just say that it's a good coin. Maybe not for long term but a good one anyway. I would just say that You shouldn't put Your trust in things like rich list etc. - rich list gives You shit. Whales are holding their coins in few wallets and can manipulate the rich list stats very easily. If they want to sell, You won't see it in rich list. Just a little tip

[CrimsonPermanentAssurance]

Don't worry man this will be up after a few hours. Imagine the prices yeterday and today. Too sharp drop means it will recover soon because nothing changed really.

And you, sir, are scum of the absolute worst sort. All you did was support the FUD attack, and now you are changing your tune. Did you buy enough at low prices, asshole?

Well, you guys should just never ever panic sell Especially not when prices have gone down so low. Think about it. 1M supply, devs here, work in progress, nothing happened really. So why do people sell? Panic. Nothing more. Just watch the rich list. They are holding. Why?

I'm not really into KeyCoin, I can just say that it's a good coin. Maybe not for long term but a good one anyway. I would just say that You shouldn't put Your trust in things like rich list etc. - rich list gives You shit. Whales are holding their coins in few wallets and can manipulate the rich list stats very easily. If they want to sell, You won't see it in rich list. Just a little tip

^ True that, and just one more thing supporting that Epimetheus is an absolute tool.

[capn]

Was this sharp drop from yesterday all about (and only about) the (bogus?) Coinsource report?

Largely so, but it was also a coordinated, bullshit FUD attack, all of which was false information.

However, CoinsSource could and honestly maybe should be sued. The way they handled things was about as unprofessional and ridiculous as a company could have behaved. I would even call it slander.

CoinsSource's behavior was inexcusable and damaging to the entire crypto community. They should be forced into an irrevocable 100 BTC buy of Key to make up for their crap.

Well, they're in a tough spot. There's a lot of demand out there for a vetting service, but vetting carries it's own risks and headaches if it isn't done the right way. Heck, even if it is done the right way. My issue with coinsource is that much of the site, including the About US, page doesnt inspire confidence - looks slapped together, not a sleek professional-looking operation like CoinDesk. Guess that takes funding.

A "tough spot" does not possibly account for their behavior.

You don't issue a perfect trust rating and then SEND OUT TWEETS that do NOTHING but make people DIRELY QUESTION that trust rating, ONLY TO END UP BACK at standing by your ORIGINAL perfect trust rating. It's absolute horse shit. CoinsSource should pay for it by losing all their credibility (and they really should be made to actually PAY for their damages).

Any "investigation" they were doing should have been done in private.

Their tweets were more damaging than anyone here probably realizes.

I missed the Twitter drama, but managed to trigger a KEY buy @ 72k What exactly did CoinsSource tweet out?

[CrimsonPermanentAssurance]

Was this sharp drop from yesterday all about (and only about) the (bogus?) Coinsource report?

Largely so, but it was also a coordinated, bullshit FUD attack, all of which was false information.

However, CoinsSource could and honestly maybe should be sued. The way they handled things was about as unprofessional and ridiculous as a company could have behaved. I would even call it slander.

CoinsSource's behavior was inexcusable and damaging to the entire crypto community. They should be forced into an irrevocable 100 BTC buy of Key to make up for their crap.

Well, they're in a tough spot. There's a lot of demand out there for a vetting service, but vetting carries it's own risks and headaches if it isn't done the right way. Heck, even if it is done the right way. My issue with coinsource is that much of the site, including the About US, page doesnt inspire confidence - looks slapped together, not a sleek professional-looking operation like CoinDesk. Guess that takes funding.

A "tough spot" does not possibly account for their behavior.

You don't issue a perfect trust rating and then SEND OUT TWEETS that do NOTHING but make people DIRELY QUESTION that trust rating, ONLY TO END UP BACK at standing by your ORIGINAL perfect trust rating. It's absolute horse shit. CoinsSource should pay for it by losing all their credibility (and they really should be made to actually PAY for their damages).

Any "investigation" they were doing should have been done in private.

Their tweets were more damaging than anyone here probably realizes.

I missed the Twitter drama, but managed to trigger a KEY buy @ 72k What exactly did CoinsSource tweet out?

"We are Investigating the ongoing "FUD" attacks around #KeyCoin and will modify their Trust Index Score accordingly."

[sdersdf2]

Don't worry man this will be up after a few hours. Imagine the prices yeterday and today. Too sharp drop means it will recover soon because nothing changed really.

And you, sir, are scum of the absolute worst sort. All you did was support the FUD attack, and now you are changing your tune. Did you buy enough at low prices, asshole?

I've noticed a lot more people playing that game lately.

[capn]

Was this sharp drop from yesterday all about (and only about) the (bogus?) Coinsource report?

Largely so, but it was also a coordinated, bullshit FUD attack, all of which was false information.

However, CoinsSource could and honestly maybe should be sued. The way they handled things was about as unprofessional and ridiculous as a company could have behaved. I would even call it slander.

CoinsSource's behavior was inexcusable and damaging to the entire crypto community. They should be forced into an irrevocable 100 BTC buy of Key to make up for their crap.

Well, they're in a tough spot. There's a lot of demand out there for a vetting service, but vetting carries it's own risks and headaches if it isn't done the right way. Heck, even if it is done the right way. My issue with coinsource is that much of the site, including the About US, page doesnt inspire confidence - looks slapped together, not a sleek professional-looking operation like CoinDesk. Guess that takes funding.

A "tough spot" does not possibly account for their behavior.

You don't issue a perfect trust rating and then SEND OUT TWEETS that do NOTHING but make people DIRELY QUESTION that trust rating, ONLY TO END UP BACK at standing by your ORIGINAL perfect trust rating. It's absolute horse shit. CoinsSource should pay for it by losing all their credibility (and they really should be made to actually PAY for their damages).

Any "investigation" they were doing should have been done in private.

Their tweets were more damaging than anyone here probably realizes.

I missed the Twitter drama, but managed to trigger a KEY buy @ 72k What exactly did CoinsSource tweet out?

"We are Investigating the ongoing "FUD" attacks around #KeyCoin and will modify their Trust Index Score accordingly."

Wow...and all they had to do was omit the part after #KeyCoin. Why the hell would you imply modification would be necessary before the investigation was complete? Wholly unprofessional.

[sdersdf2]

Was this sharp drop from yesterday all about (and only about) the (bogus?) Coinsource report?

Largely so, but it was also a coordinated, bullshit FUD attack, all of which was false information.

However, CoinsSource could and honestly maybe should be sued. The way they handled things was about as unprofessional and ridiculous as a company could have behaved. I would even call it slander.

CoinsSource's behavior was inexcusable and damaging to the entire crypto community. They should be forced into an irrevocable 100 BTC buy of Key to make up for their crap.

Well, they're in a tough spot. There's a lot of demand out there for a vetting service, but vetting carries it's own risks and headaches if it isn't done the right way. Heck, even if it is done the right way. My issue with coinsource is that much of the site, including the About US, page doesnt inspire confidence - looks slapped together, not a sleek professional-looking operation like CoinDesk. Guess that takes funding.

A "tough spot" does not possibly account for their behavior.

You don't issue a perfect trust rating and then SEND OUT TWEETS that do NOTHING but make people DIRELY QUESTION that trust rating, ONLY TO END UP BACK at standing by your ORIGINAL perfect trust rating. It's absolute horse shit. CoinsSource should pay for it by losing all their credibility (and they really should be made to actually PAY for their damages).

Any "investigation" they were doing should have been done in private.

Their tweets were more damaging than anyone here probably realizes.

I missed the Twitter drama, but managed to trigger a KEY buy @ 72k What exactly did CoinsSource tweet out?

"We are Investigating the ongoing "FUD" attacks around #KeyCoin and will modify their Trust Index Score accordingly."

Maybe CoinSource is playing that game as well - talk about fertile ground for a massive conflict of interest.

"We trust them...uh, no we don't <buy, buy, buy>....okay, we trust them again."

Welcome to cryptoworld.

[CrimsonPermanentAssurance]

Don't worry man this will be up after a few hours. Imagine the prices yeterday and today. Too sharp drop means it will recover soon because nothing changed really.

And you, sir, are scum of the absolute worst sort. All you did was support the FUD attack, and now you are changing your tune. Did you buy enough at low prices, asshole?

I've noticed a lot more people playing that game lately.

Best thing to do would be to compile a list of them all and at least publish their names into oblivion and lack of any credibility.

Hopefully someone takes my idea and runs with it.

Call it www.knowntrolls.com.

You can start the list with this name:

Epimetheus

[Epimetheus]

Don't worry man this will be up after a few hours. Imagine the prices yeterday and today. Too sharp drop means it will recover soon because nothing changed really.

And you, sir, are scum of the absolute worst sort. All you did was support the FUD attack, and now you are changing your tune. Did you buy enough at low prices, asshole?

I've noticed a lot more people playing that game lately.

Best thing to do would be to compile a list of them all and at least publish their names into oblivion and lack of any credibility.

Hopefully someone takes my idea and runs with it.

Call it www.knowntrolls.com.

You can start the list with this name:

Epimetheus

lol that would be an endless list man.

[whistle_blowerrr]

Has anyone else actually tried that de-anon program?  I ask because it worked perfectly for me, and it seems weird that nobody is talking about it.

Here's a screenshot of my test, and if that's not enough proof I'm also uploading a video of the complete test (including all the parameters I had to enter in the code) to YouTube right now:

http://servyserv.com/keyanon_cropped.png

Pr0m3theus says you are a liar and that the deanonymizer does not work at all, are you implying he is a liar?

'Video' has not been posted to youtube. If real, wouldn't take more than 5 minute. Obvious fake and fud.

Not only did I make that up, but I actually tried using the code and it was complete BS.  Didn't work.

[Boomsling]

I spoke in length the the owner of coinsource. I don't believe there was any malice in their tweet or intent of manipulation. They are young and naive.

I've put it down to incompetence. They should focus on being accurate in their comms rather than trying to sound official.

They do not understand speculative markets very well if they send out tweets like they did. Even there wording afterwards  (at this time...) is cause for concern.

They certainly played a part in shaving off a significant amount of market cap but I don't doubt key will recover.
The Key OS will be a game changer, it has so many practical real world uses. An example of which could be something like Keepod

The devs of Key are some smart mofo's.

 

[Epimetheus]

Everyone is waiting for the next move No trading at all right now. When whales buy back in, we will see some rally again.

[SkyValeey]

Fontas thinks we should buy.. usually this means pump soon so I will buy

https://twitter.com/FontasPumps/status/497689662308511744

guys, don't even follow these Whales.
When they call something a good they already bought them lower an set up sell walls the pumpers will buy into. after these buys dry up the dump accourse.
Be super careful with these tweets. They always manipulate their follow to get big profits out of them.

I know. Don't worry. 100k for Key is a good price if you consider the fact that there is 1M supply and devs are updating here regularly. Think this might be a lot more worth next week. It is worth the risk right now so I bought. Already going up everywhere. Just needs a final push to break 200k again.

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Marketcap is 537k $ atm, tgis is not big cap - look at Cloak cap (4.3m $) or Btcd cap (2.2m $).

2-4m $ cap is possible for Key imo.

[Epimetheus]

Fontas thinks we should buy.. usually this means pump soon so I will buy

https://twitter.com/FontasPumps/status/497689662308511744

guys, don't even follow these Whales.
When they call something a good they already bought them lower an set up sell walls the pumpers will buy into. after these buys dry up the dump accourse.
Be super careful with these tweets. They always manipulate their follow to get big profits out of them.

I know. Don't worry. 100k for Key is a good price if you consider the fact that there is 1M supply and devs are updating here regularly. Think this might be a lot more worth next week. It is worth the risk right now so I bought. Already going up everywhere. Just needs a final push to break 200k again.

+1
 
Marketcap is 537k $ atm, tgis is not big cap - look at Cloak cap (4.3m $) or Btcd cap (2.2m $).

2-4m $ cap is possible for Key imo.

The panic dumps scared people a lot it seems. If you would have given these prices yesterday they would buy all KEY available. Market needs to cool down a bit.

[Paladin69]

Everyone is waiting for the next move No trading at all right now. When whales buy back in, we will see some rally again.

Weren't you fudding yesterday?

[Epimetheus]

Everyone is waiting for the next move No trading at all right now. When whales buy back in, we will see some rally again.

Weren't you fudding yesterday?

Yes because I do not trust Prom & Co but I do think that the devs might have something good here. So after the dumps today I decided to buy a bit because this price is a good opportunity. You can't deny that.

[Paladin69]

So I've been following the blockchain since all the FUD.  #5 is interesting.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/key/address.dws?7515.htm

It looks like about 40K of coins was moved from trex to begin staking.  I think these guys are in it for the long haul.

[Paladin69]

Everyone is waiting for the next move No trading at all right now. When whales buy back in, we will see some rally again.

Weren't you fudding yesterday?

Yes because I do not trust Prom & Co but I do think that the devs might have something good here. So after the dumps today I decided to buy a bit because this price is a good opportunity. You can't deny that.

Stop hurting other people.  Your beef with Prom hurts people like me who just want to invest in a basket of Anon currencies.

It's fucking rude man.  Some people have 4-5 figures in these.  Yesterday was such a joke.  I feel bad for those that sold at a loss.

[friendfromnobody]

LINK1: https://bsd7.cs.sunysb.edu/~cse260/project.html
LINK2: https://bsd7.cs.sunysb.edu/~cse260/

Someone can explain this?


"Cryptcoin

In the preceding sections I have explained the key ideas underlying Bitcoin. The actual implementation employs some additional ideas to improve the practicality and scalability of the system. For example, the full transaction details associated with a Bitcoin block can be quite large, and for reasons of scalability it is desirable not to have to send around these details each time a particular block is mentioned. For demonstration purposes though, details like this can be safely ignored without changing the essentials of the system, and this is what I have done in designing a simplified version of Bitcoin which I am calling "Cryptcoin". In designing Cryptcoin, I made use of information on the Bitcoin protocol that is that is available at the Bitcoin Wiki, including the protocol specification and protocol rules pages. Since Cryptcoin is a simplified version of Bitcoin (and different from it), although these detailed descriptions of Bitcoin available online might be helpful to some extent, they should not be expected to match exactly what is done in Cryptcoin. Of course, it goes without saying that Bitcoin source code will also not be of much use in the Cryptcoin system.

Like Bitcoin, the Cryptcoin system is a peer-to-peer network of nodes that exchange information by sending various kinds messages. In general, there are only a few rules in Cryptcoin about what messages should be sent at what time, so there is a fair amount that is left to the discretion of the implementor. There are two basic types of Cryptcoin nodes: servers, which can accept incoming connections from other nodes and are full participants in the propagation of blocks and transactions through the system, and clients, which can connect to servers but do not themselves accept incoming connections and do not further propagate blocks and transactions they receive. In Cryptcoin, miners will be server nodes, though there can also be servers that do not engage in the creation of blocks. End-user applications, such as a "wallet" that keeps track of Cryptcoin funds belonging to a particular person and allows that person to send and receive funds, might well be implemented as client nodes. Another example of a client node, which you will probably find helpful in developing an understanding of the Cryptcoin system, is a Cryptcoin Explorer client that I have written. This client serves a purpose similar to that of the Bitcoin Block Explorer or Blockchain.info websites.

Node Function

When a Cryptcoin node is started, it attempts to initiate a connection to one or more "well-known" servers whose addresses are found in a pre-programmed list. Once a connection has been made between two nodes, they begin to exchange messages. An initial "connect/acknowledge" handshake is used to exchange information about the software version of each of the nodes. After that, each node regularly "pings" the other, in order to be able to detect when a peer has become unresponsive and to close the connection to it. Another type of message is used to propagate the addresses of server nodes through the system. When a node hears about a server, it typically will retain its address for some time, so that it will be available in case one or more of its existing connections are lost and new connections need to be made. Finally, the main work of Cryptcoin is accomplished by exchanging messages that serve to propagate information about blocks and transactions.[...]"



LINK1: https://bsd7.cs.sunysb.edu/~cse260/project.html
LINK2: https://bsd7.cs.sunysb.edu/~cse260/

From this university: http://www.stonybrook.edu/


And..wtf is goin on with this coin?!??!


Student:

http://www.linkedin.com/in/jessetg

Cryptcoin
October 2013 to December 2013
Team Members: Jesse Talavera-Greenberg
An implementation of a cryptocurrency protocol similar to Bitcoin, but simpler. Won first place in an in-class competition!

https://github.com/JesseTG

https://github.com/JesseTG/Cryptcoin/commits/master
https://github.com/JesseTG/Cryptcoin/blob/master/design/png/use-cases.png
https://github.com/JesseTG/Cryptcoin/blob/master/design/png/message.png

Teacher:
http://bsd7.cs.sunysb.edu/~stark/


So, MindFox its not Mindfox?  Huh Huh Huh Huh

This teacher speaks greek : http://www.yellowpagesgoesgreen.org/whitepages/details/ny/EUGENE_W_STARK/12622235


Nobody from the Cryptcoin Team aswered me. So, I've send an email to Jesse, which kindly ansered me:


Code:

On 08/06/2014 10:51 PM, NSA Treehundred wrote:
Ok, tk you!
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Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 at 3:45 AM
From: "Jesse Talavera-Greenberg" <jessetalavera@aol.com>
To: "NSA Treehundred" <NSA360@mail.com>
Subject: Re: Cryptcoin
No.  The Cryptcoin on my GitHub was an unrelated academic project.
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On 08/06/2014 10:32 PM, NSA Treehundred wrote:
Hi!
This is your coin?
 
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/219
Cheers




I'm still waiting for the teacher answer.

Just for your info.

prom3theus :you can give us also some info about crypt!!!!!
you play this coin but al your team members dont talk anymore about crypt.
it will follow you forever and you know that ,this coin key cannot help you.
more people will know that you dump on alot of people ,
more people will not trust you anymore.
say something about crypt and tell moosa that he post something on bct crypt.
he say that he will post there but still nothing ,also mindfox is gone.
the only thing what we hear is more soon .still nothing will this also happen with key?