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March 23, 2015, 09:05:13 PM
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I advocate for tying the max amount of MNs to the coinsupply:
Max MN = (total coinsupply)/ 2880.

A while ago I remember there being a discussion about limiting one MN to one IP (or server)... what's the latest on that?
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March 23, 2015, 09:25:30 PM
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I advocate for tying the max amount of MNs to the coinsupply:
Max MN = (total coinsupply)/ 2880.

A while ago I remember there being a discussion about limiting one MN to one IP (or server)... what's the latest on that?


You can't limit one SN to one IP.
Nobody can know if your server is really running on one IP as a single instance or running as one of hundred virtual machines in a cloud.
Also, your SN will never be required to be visible thru an IP, the SNs IP is not important since it's not broadcast anyway.

With that in mind, coming back to your question:
to prevent people from running multiple SNs (servicenodes) on a server, you will need to run services (on those servicenodes) that have a high load on the server CPU / RAM / HDisk...
this will make running multiple SNs on a server problematic, and encourage the spreading of SNs over multiple Servers (and be it only virtual ones)

For this to work we will need a sophisticated valuation system that gives the best servers the best score, and the worst servers the worst score.

That's the tricky part.


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March 23, 2015, 10:20:59 PM
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I'm all for max coinsupply/2880.

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March 24, 2015, 12:03:08 AM
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Does anybody know who is running this Hashrate distribution chart?

http://104.36.83.126/spreadcoin/
Here Smiley
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March 24, 2015, 12:41:20 AM
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Does anybody know who is running this Hashrate distribution chart?

http://104.36.83.126/spreadcoin/
Here Smiley

I was wondering that too, didn't think to just enquire, lol. Nice work.

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March 24, 2015, 03:16:14 AM
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I particularly like Max MN = (total coinsupply)/ 2880.

Because it will allow for only a very limited amount of MN at the moment: around 650... (this will help drive the price of SPR up, now that it is young)
and it will grow to a healthy 1800 when we are as old as darkcoin... (1 Year)
and it will grow to a perfect 5000 MNs when we are as old as bitcoin... (6 years)

And when we reach the 21 Million max coinsupply in a 100 years we will have reached the maximum possible amount of 7292 MNs.

I concur.  I am curious if a consensus decision has been reached among developers if Servicenodes should go live before there is a service in place that they are actively supporting, or your opinion on the matter? 

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March 24, 2015, 04:09:56 AM
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I particularly like Max MN = (total coinsupply)/ 2880.

Because it will allow for only a very limited amount of MN at the moment: around 650... (this will help drive the price of SPR up, now that it is young)
and it will grow to a healthy 1800 when we are as old as darkcoin... (1 Year)
and it will grow to a perfect 5000 MNs when we are as old as bitcoin... (6 years)

And when we reach the 21 Million max coinsupply in a 100 years we will have reached the maximum possible amount of 7292 MNs.

I concur.  I am curious if a consensus decision has been reached among developers if Servicenodes should go live before there is a service in place that they are actively supporting, or your opinion on the matter?  

live on testnet? Yes.

But we can't have "empty" servicenodes enter main net, because for the servicenodes to receive SPR they will need to constantly pass a voting /evaluation process, or they will be dropped.
(evaluating if a servicenode is behaving correctly and doing a good job or not)

And if there is no service then there is nothing to base the voting /evaluation on.

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March 24, 2015, 11:41:59 AM
Last edit: March 24, 2015, 12:18:30 PM by a-russo
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Hello guys, I would like to introduce to you for testing a new feature.

Live Spreadcoin Heartbeat Widget, with ability to embed anywhere the widget using multiple means. If html is embedded it automatically updates data (the one deployed on spreadcoin.us operates on the same basis). If embedding html is not a viable option for you, it can be hotlinked in a form of an image. See more at http://spreadcoin.us/embed_widget.php .

API providing data similar to the one on the widget in JSON format, CORS enabled is to come soon.

Thank you to everyone for promoting and supporting Spreadcoin and spreadcoin.us, I highly appreciate anyone doing good for Spreadcoin. You may not see me that often posting in here, I prefer doing to posting Smiley

In downloads section of the website, 64bit version of windows wallet has been restored recently, the rest is to come.


Does anybody know who is running this Hashrate distribution chart?

http://104.36.83.126/spreadcoin/
Here Smiley
Goodman, glad to see you often on #spreadcoin


Cheers,
A-russo

picture below is hotlinked, live data on each refresh Smiley
http://spreadcoin.us/widget/
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March 24, 2015, 02:03:17 PM
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Hello guys, I would like to introduce to you for testing a new feature.

Live Spreadcoin Heartbeat Widget, with ability to embed anywhere the widget using multiple means. If html is embedded it automatically updates data (the one deployed on spreadcoin.us operates on the same basis). If embedding html is not a viable option for you, it can be hotlinked in a form of an image. See more at http://spreadcoin.us/embed_widget.php .

API providing data similar to the one on the widget in JSON format, CORS enabled is to come soon.

Thank you to everyone for promoting and supporting Spreadcoin and spreadcoin.us, I highly appreciate anyone doing good for Spreadcoin. You may not see me that often posting in here, I prefer doing to posting Smiley

In downloads section of the website, 64bit version of windows wallet has been restored recently, the rest is to come.


Does anybody know who is running this Hashrate distribution chart?

http://104.36.83.126/spreadcoin/
Here Smiley
Goodman, glad to see you often on #spreadcoin


Cheers,
A-russo

picture below is hotlinked, live data on each refresh Smiley


I love this opportunity because anyone can get into this coin.  DASH has shown a lot of improvement but it is at the point that not anyone can get in on the deal.  Currently anyone can get in on this coin before it goes big.  It will take some time, but I think $2 is a given once servicenodes are up and running.  I encourage everyone who is interested to buy up at least 1500 SPR (which is only about .06 BTC) That will allow you to run a servicenode.
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March 24, 2015, 07:00:41 PM
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Hello guys, I would like to introduce to you for testing a new feature.

Live Spreadcoin Heartbeat Widget, with ability to embed anywhere the widget using multiple means. If html is embedded it automatically updates data (the one deployed on spreadcoin.us operates on the same basis). If embedding html is not a viable option for you, it can be hotlinked in a form of an image. See more at http://spreadcoin.us/embed_widget.php .

API providing data similar to the one on the widget in JSON format, CORS enabled is to come soon.

Thank you to everyone for promoting and supporting Spreadcoin and spreadcoin.us, I highly appreciate anyone doing good for Spreadcoin. You may not see me that often posting in here, I prefer doing to posting Smiley

In downloads section of the website, 64bit version of windows wallet has been restored recently, the rest is to come.


Does anybody know who is running this Hashrate distribution chart?

http://104.36.83.126/spreadcoin/
Here Smiley
Goodman, glad to see you often on #spreadcoin


Cheers,
A-russo

picture below is hotlinked, live data on each refresh Smiley


I love this opportunity because anyone can get into this coin.  DASH has shown a lot of improvement but it is at the point that not anyone can get in on the deal.  Currently anyone can get in on this coin before it goes big.  It will take some time, but I think $2 is a given once servicenodes are up and running.  I encourage everyone who is interested to buy up at least 15,000 SPR (which is only about .06 BTC) That will allow you to run quite a few servicenode.

Fixed if for you  Smiley
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March 24, 2015, 07:09:11 PM
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Hello guys, I would like to introduce to you for testing a new feature.

Live Spreadcoin Heartbeat Widget, with ability to embed anywhere the widget using multiple means. If html is embedded it automatically updates data (the one deployed on spreadcoin.us operates on the same basis). If embedding html is not a viable option for you, it can be hotlinked in a form of an image. See more at http://spreadcoin.us/embed_widget.php .

API providing data similar to the one on the widget in JSON format, CORS enabled is to come soon.

Thank you to everyone for promoting and supporting Spreadcoin and spreadcoin.us, I highly appreciate anyone doing good for Spreadcoin. You may not see me that often posting in here, I prefer doing to posting Smiley

In downloads section of the website, 64bit version of windows wallet has been restored recently, the rest is to come.


Does anybody know who is running this Hashrate distribution chart?

http://104.36.83.126/spreadcoin/
Here Smiley
Goodman, glad to see you often on #spreadcoin


Cheers,
A-russo

picture below is hotlinked, live data on each refresh Smiley


I love this opportunity because anyone can get into this coin.  DASH has shown a lot of improvement but it is at the point that not anyone can get in on the deal.  Currently anyone can get in on this coin before it goes big.  It will take some time, but I think $2 is a given once servicenodes are up and running.  I encourage everyone who is interested to buy up at least 15,000 SPR (which is only about .06 BTC) That will allow you to run quite a few servicenode.

Fixed if for you  Smiley

Ahh yes yes of course.  I had forgotten that we are all going to be millionaires. 
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March 24, 2015, 07:21:19 PM
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I have recently worked my way through a C++ tutorial and was looking for a next step.  I have a passion for computing and love C++ but I need something that will give me a challenge (but wont be too difficult). I want to further understand how coins work and one day become a decent dev.  Does anyone have suggestions on what I could do to further my education?
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March 24, 2015, 07:58:10 PM
Last edit: March 26, 2015, 05:16:56 PM by a-russo
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I have recently worked my way through a C++ tutorial and was looking for a next step.  I have a passion for computing and love C++ but I need something that will give me a challenge (but wont be too difficult). I want to further understand how coins work and one day become a decent dev.  Does anyone have suggestions on what I could do to further my education?

Spreadcoin tip bot serving users of you choose - irc/twitter/facebook/bitcointalk. Once you have chosen the enviroment you want to develop it for, I will take whatever will be left - want to develop one myself Smiley
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March 24, 2015, 10:00:47 PM
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Hello guys, I would like to introduce to you for testing a new feature.

Live Spreadcoin Heartbeat Widget, with ability to embed anywhere the widget using multiple means. If html is embedded it automatically updates data (the one deployed on spreadcoin.us operates on the same basis). If embedding html is not a viable option for you, it can be hotlinked in a form of an image. See more at http://spreadcoin.us/embed_widget.php .

API providing data similar to the one on the widget in JSON format, CORS enabled is to come soon.

Thank you to everyone for promoting and supporting Spreadcoin and spreadcoin.us, I highly appreciate anyone doing good for Spreadcoin. You may not see me that often posting in here, I prefer doing to posting Smiley

In downloads section of the website, 64bit version of windows wallet has been restored recently, the rest is to come.


Does anybody know who is running this Hashrate distribution chart?

http://104.36.83.126/spreadcoin/
Here Smiley
Goodman, glad to see you often on #spreadcoin


Cheers,
A-russo

picture below is hotlinked, live data on each refresh Smiley


I love this opportunity because anyone can get into this coin.  DASH has shown a lot of improvement but it is at the point that not anyone can get in on the deal.  Currently anyone can get in on this coin before it goes big.  It will take some time, but I think $2 is a given once servicenodes are up and running.  I encourage everyone who is interested to buy up at least 15,000 SPR (which is only about .06 BTC) That will allow you to run quite a few servicenode.

Fixed if for you  Smiley

Ahh yes yes of course.  I had forgotten that we are all going to be millionaires.  


Stop dreaming..
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This is over..

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March 24, 2015, 10:12:17 PM
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I have recently worked my way through a C++ tutorial and was looking for a next step.  I have a passion for computing and love C++ but I need something that will give me a challenge (but wont be too difficult). I want to further understand how coins work and one day become a decent dev.  Does anyone have suggestions on what I could do to further my education?

I think it's quite obvious. You should study the Bitcoin source.
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March 24, 2015, 10:32:53 PM
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Stop dreaming..
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This is over..

Thanks for making us aware  Grin
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March 24, 2015, 11:20:20 PM
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I have recently worked my way through a C++ tutorial and was looking for a next step.  I have a passion for computing and love C++ but I need something that will give me a challenge (but wont be too difficult). I want to further understand how coins work and one day become a decent dev.  Does anyone have suggestions on what I could do to further my education?

I think it's quite obvious. You should study the Bitcoin source.

I was looking more for guides or tutorials about how it works. I have looked through the source but I want to fully understand it. I would like someone to do a video that breaks down the entire thing.
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March 25, 2015, 04:15:18 AM
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I have recently worked my way through a C++ tutorial and was looking for a next step.  I have a passion for computing and love C++ but I need something that will give me a challenge (but wont be too difficult). I want to further understand how coins work and one day become a decent dev.  Does anyone have suggestions on what I could do to further my education?

I think it's quite obvious. You should study the Bitcoin source.

I was looking more for guides or tutorials about how it works. I have looked through the source but I want to fully understand it. I would like someone to do a video that breaks down the entire thing.

I haven't reviewed it all but here are a few links to get you started Cool

Bitcoin or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Crypto
https://www.udemy.com/bitcoin-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-crypto/

Course on Cryptography
https://support.udemy.com/customer/portal/questions/8534769-course-on-cryptography?b_id=3583

Surviving Encryption: Essentials
https://www.udemy.com/sumuri-se-es/

HOW DOES BITCOIN WORK: CRYPTOCURRENCY BASICS 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWSzrC0F9SI

Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Mining - What is It & How Does it Work a Non-Technical Explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miYWkkAYXM0

‘How Bitcoin Works’, A Short Video Explaining the Economics Behind the Digital Cryptocurrency
http://laughingsquid.com/how-bitcoin-works-a-short-video-explaining-the-economics-behind-the-digital-cryptocurrency/

Bitcoinproperly.org - Crypto Currency explained
https://vimeo.com/108159383

EDIT: these links came up in Google by typing "cryptocurrency explained" or any other variation... there's a lot on youtube but you might need to dig a little to find something useful...
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March 25, 2015, 01:12:58 PM
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I have recently worked my way through a C++ tutorial and was looking for a next step.  I have a passion for computing and love C++ but I need something that will give me a challenge (but wont be too difficult). I want to further understand how coins work and one day become a decent dev.  Does anyone have suggestions on what I could do to further my education?

I think it's quite obvious. You should study the Bitcoin source.

I was looking more for guides or tutorials about how it works. I have looked through the source but I want to fully understand it. I would like someone to do a video that breaks down the entire thing.

I haven't reviewed it all but here are a few links to get you started Cool

Bitcoin or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Crypto
https://www.udemy.com/bitcoin-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-crypto/

Course on Cryptography
https://support.udemy.com/customer/portal/questions/8534769-course-on-cryptography?b_id=3583

Surviving Encryption: Essentials
https://www.udemy.com/sumuri-se-es/

HOW DOES BITCOIN WORK: CRYPTOCURRENCY BASICS 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWSzrC0F9SI

Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Mining - What is It & How Does it Work a Non-Technical Explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miYWkkAYXM0

‘How Bitcoin Works’, A Short Video Explaining the Economics Behind the Digital Cryptocurrency
http://laughingsquid.com/how-bitcoin-works-a-short-video-explaining-the-economics-behind-the-digital-cryptocurrency/

Bitcoinproperly.org - Crypto Currency explained
https://vimeo.com/108159383

EDIT: these links came up in Google by typing "cryptocurrency explained" or any other variation... there's a lot on youtube but you might need to dig a little to find something useful...

Thank-you very much. I think this is a fantastic place to start.
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March 25, 2015, 04:43:25 PM
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I advocate for tying the max amount of MNs to the coinsupply:
Max MN = (total coinsupply)/ 2880.

A while ago I remember there being a discussion about limiting one MN to one IP (or server)... what's the latest on that?


You can't limit one SN to one IP.
Nobody can know if your server is really running on one IP as a single instance or running as one of hundred virtual machines in a cloud.
Also, your SN will never be required to be visible thru an IP, the SNs IP is not important since it's not broadcast anyway.

With that in mind, coming back to your question:
to prevent people from running multiple SNs (servicenodes) on a server, you will need to run services (on those servicenodes) that have a high load on the server CPU / RAM / HDisk...
this will make running multiple SNs on a server problematic, and encourage the spreading of SNs over multiple Servers (and be it only virtual ones)

For this to work we will need a sophisticated valuation system that gives the best servers the best score, and the worst servers the worst score.

That's the tricky part.



Or you could avoid all this pointless and impractical nonsense and just have a fixed collateral cost, and let market forces sort the numbers out. Spread MNs would be up and running on mainnet with IX far faster.
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