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September 08, 2014, 01:55:10 AM
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I would say that all bets that were made starting when the "bug" started should be rolled back. This is the most fair and reasonable thing to do.

Even if this mean some people who were "lucky" (meaning who happened to bet at a good time) will lose out on some of their profit, it will keep the integrity of the site.

I also think that betting should be halted until you can be 100% certain that your code is allowing a fair game to be played by both the gamblers and the investors.  

Not possible, do you know how many coins were removed?
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September 08, 2014, 02:04:07 AM
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Looking at OP's trust ratings you'll see he left this ironic gem on another dice site and owner:

JayzMike -4: -1 / +0(0)   2014-09-05   0.00000000      Runs dicebet.net , claims to be "fair" where obviously it isnt. People never receive their winnings and admin is disappeared. BE CAREFUL and avoid at all costs.

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September 08, 2014, 02:06:32 AM
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I would say that all bets that were made starting when the "bug" started should be rolled back. This is the most fair and reasonable thing to do.

Even if this mean some people who were "lucky" (meaning who happened to bet at a good time) will lose out on some of their profit, it will keep the integrity of the site.

I also think that betting should be halted until you can be 100% certain that your code is allowing a fair game to be played by both the gamblers and the investors.  

Not possible, do you know how many coins were removed?
How many coins were removed? Of those coins how many were from profits that occurred since the "bug" started? I would imagine that it is not many (at least not all of the money the OP has invested in the site).

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September 08, 2014, 02:08:46 AM
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Op should change the threads title of 7500+ bankroll to 1500+
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September 08, 2014, 02:09:21 AM
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I would say that all bets that were made starting when the "bug" started should be rolled back. This is the most fair and reasonable thing to do.

Even if this mean some people who were "lucky" (meaning who happened to bet at a good time) will lose out on some of their profit, it will keep the integrity of the site.

I also think that betting should be halted until you can be 100% certain that your code is allowing a fair game to be played by both the gamblers and the investors.  

Not possible, do you know how many coins were removed?
How many coins were removed? Of those coins how many were from profits that occurred since the "bug" started? I would imagine that it is not many (at least not all of the money the OP has invested in the site).

Bank roll was mid 7000 today. Its currently 6000 DOWN from there. I imagine that any current investors are pulling out too so what will be returned will be from the owners pocket. So not that many I imagine.
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September 08, 2014, 02:11:04 AM
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title should be changed to "Sorry we lost all them bitcoins"

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September 08, 2014, 02:19:58 AM
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I haven't followed everything exactly that's happened, but I said over and over again that I had no idea why this site is getting so much investment with not that much of a track record.

Guess I was right to be skeptical.
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September 08, 2014, 02:21:40 AM
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If you gave source access to the (in hindsight, malicious) employee, what harm can giving repo access to dooglus do? If you gave him a quick tour of the malicious change and the rollbacks etc., I'm sure he'd be willing to take a look and vouch for the authenticity of your story. =)
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September 08, 2014, 02:23:07 AM
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but I said over and over again that I had no idea why this site is getting so much investment with not that much of a track record

Because dooglus promoted it, and people blindly followed him like sheep.
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September 08, 2014, 02:24:10 AM
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Interesting.  The bankroll has started to rise in the last half hour or so.  Investors must feel that within the last 14 hours the entire issue has been detected and fully resolved, and that there are no more surprises to be found.
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September 08, 2014, 02:30:29 AM
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I am sorry if i dont reply fast, i keep refreshing hot wallet(just sent 2k coins more).

What just makes me sad, apart from the big blow of the site, is that people miss the picture.

So we wanted to cheat. And scam.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE explain me why i am refunding people from my wallet AND didnt simply take the 7k coins and GO?

That goes to Stunna as well, which he didnt lose opportunity to put me a negative trust. I guess this fuckup is the perfect gift for him.

Oh well.

You are free to charge me with whatever accusations you wish. But scammer : no. Last time i checked in my books, scammers dont return the loot of their"scam". Just saying.



The fact that something like this has happened on your website has ruined your reputation beyond recovery, but allow me to hammer a few more nails into your coffin.

Let's examine your website:

1. Your dice game was deliberately rigged.
2. After the rigging was discovered you quickly disabled the ability to lookup bets of other users.
3. You've chosen to only refund people with negative profit even though that results in only a 50% refund EV.
4. You turned down the opportunity to allow dooglus, king of retards, to help make your website more reputable.
5. You tried to shift the blame for this situation to a non-existent anonymous 3rd party. You've recently stated numerous times that you(manl) and gerry are the only individuals involved in the production and operation of your website.
6. Your whois(http://whois.net/whois/dicebitco.in) is completely fraudulent.
8. You artificially pumped up the facebook page(https://www.facebook.com/dicelitecoin) for your other website by purchasing 19,000+ "likes".
9. You joke around about DDoSing websites like it's nothing(http://www.reddit.com/user/dicelitecoin) - 3rd post
10. Your English is broken  Cool

If you've been paying attention you may have noticed that I skipped number seven - just like you skipped nonces.

There are several reasons why you may have chosen to not steal the 7k coins that were in cold storage.
Here are a few:
1. You feared the repercussions of openly stealing 7k coins.
2. You feared the repercussions of getting caught rigging your dice game, and wanted try to ease tensions anyway possible.
3. You think you can actually rebuild your reputation, and steal more money in the future based on that reputation.

You had the opportunity to make a decent amount of money, and you threw it away. Anyone who trusts you with their money at this point is brain dead.

Whatever the case,

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September 08, 2014, 02:31:11 AM
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Interesting.  The bankroll has started to rise in the last half hour or so.  Investors must feel that within the last 14 hours the entire issue has been detected and fully resolved, and that there are no more surprises to be found.

The entire issue has been detected and fully resolved. Fully addressed maybe not yet, but fully resolved yes.

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September 08, 2014, 02:32:25 AM
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The fact that something like this has happened on your website has ruined your reputation beyond recovery......


Did you really get into trouble to create a new account just to post here 3 times the same post..?

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September 08, 2014, 02:44:48 AM
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but I said over and over again that I had no idea why this site is getting so much investment with not that much of a track record

Because dooglus promoted it, and people blindly followed him like sheep.

Did he really?  I had no idea.


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September 08, 2014, 02:48:46 AM
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but I said over and over again that I had no idea why this site is getting so much investment with not that much of a track record

Because dooglus promoted it, and people blindly followed him like sheep.

Did he really?  I had no idea.

Just for the story, dooglus NEVER promoted openly DB. when he joined the sig campaign, we already had ~2.5k coins invested. It was stated EVERYWHERE and all the time, that dooglus had NOTHING to do with the site, apart from gambling and investing.

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September 08, 2014, 02:50:17 AM
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Interesting.  The bankroll has started to rise in the last half hour or so.  Investors must feel that within the last 14 hours the entire issue has been detected and fully resolved, and that there are no more surprises to be found.

The entire issue has been detected and fully resolved. Fully addressed maybe not yet, but fully resolved yes.

As you have detected and fixed this fraud perpetrated by someone you know, are you going to report that person to the police in your jurisdiction, or the jurisdiction where the alleged fraudster resides?  This may seem like a rhetorical question as I bet your site is unlicensed and therefore you would be complaining about fraud at an illegal business, but it does raise the question of what can be done about thieves that backdoor the site and seemingly can escape without any risk of penalty?
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As you have detected and fixed this fraud perpetrated by someone you know, are you going to report that person to the police in your jurisdiction, or the jurisdiction where the alleged fraudster resides?  This may seem like a rhetorical question as I bet your site is unlicensed and therefore you would be complaining about fraud at an illegal business, but it does raise the question of what can be done about thieves that backdoor the site and seemingly can escape without any risk of penalty?

I will deal with him personally.

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September 08, 2014, 03:04:51 AM
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AGAIN, uuughh. Not a great time to complain, but I have to. Deposited 0.04, got up to 0.065 and was happy. I really wanted to withdraw, but couldn't, so I invested 0.06, knowing I'd lose if I kept it in, and kept 0.005 in to play with until it confirms. Guess what, I lost the 0.005, rage deposit, boom my balance is gone.

Someone refund me to convince me to keep playing here.

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September 08, 2014, 03:06:52 AM
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As you have detected and fixed this fraud perpetrated by someone you know, are you going to report that person to the police in your jurisdiction, or the jurisdiction where the alleged fraudster resides?  This may seem like a rhetorical question as I bet your site is unlicensed and therefore you would be complaining about fraud at an illegal business, but it does raise the question of what can be done about thieves that backdoor the site and seemingly can escape without any risk of penalty?

I will deal with him personally.

http://forum.r2games.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=94091&d=1404635635
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September 08, 2014, 03:07:24 AM
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AGAIN, uuughh. Not a great time to complain, but I have to. Deposited 0.04, got up to 0.065 and was happy. I really wanted to withdraw, but couldn't, so I invested 0.06, knowing I'd lose if I kept it in, and kept 0.005 in to play with until it confirms. Guess what, I lost the 0.005, rage deposit, boom my balance is gone.

Someone refund me to convince me to keep playing here.

If you lost it fair and square unlike others then there's nothing he can do sadly.

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