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August 21, 2014, 01:54:42 AM
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The pool miner is stuck on "No valid shares to submit to pool".
Any ideas?

Yeah, assuming it is able to read your plots fine and you generated them for the correct address, this error simply means you didn't have any shares under the current (20k) difficulty/deadline.

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August 21, 2014, 01:56:55 AM
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I like the new pool, only thing is, i've been mining on a 500gb just for this, brand new hdd for almost 7 days now. No blocks

When I read the pool was out, so I went on ahead deleted the solo plots. and generated new plots using the new id from the pool that was made for me.
It is almost done generating, and I've been running the new mine bat the whole time and all I get is this.


{
  "height": "3388",
  "generationSignature": "b9af80bf3dab37cdcac71b2a26e1c8fa664d8780d17648ce8e4ef7
95d3a3aff0",
  "baseTarget": "50577231",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool
{
  "height": "3389",
  "generationSignature": "44cb1c47707c2874dd8c2fb4948af5b2da03e031d876e36128741a
d380abcee2",
  "baseTarget": "52630836",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool

I want to get bigger hdds, but I want to wait to make sure I get at least one block first.


You will only get a share of a block once the pool finds one. I think the message "No valid shares...." is you haven't submitted a share 20,000 or lower on the deadline; you might want to put at least a 1TB or more towards the pool, ideally 2TB.

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August 21, 2014, 01:58:49 AM
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I like the new pool, only thing is, i've been mining on a 500gb just for this, brand new hdd for almost 7 days now. No blocks

When I read the pool was out, so I went on ahead deleted the solo plots. and generated new plots using the new id from the pool that was made for me.
It is almost done generating, and I've been running the new mine bat the whole time and all I get is this.


{
  "height": "3388",
  "generationSignature": "b9af80bf3dab37cdcac71b2a26e1c8fa664d8780d17648ce8e4ef7
95d3a3aff0",
  "baseTarget": "50577231",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool
{
  "height": "3389",
  "generationSignature": "44cb1c47707c2874dd8c2fb4948af5b2da03e031d876e36128741a
d380abcee2",
  "baseTarget": "52630836",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool

I want to get bigger hdds, but I want to wait to make sure I get at least one block first.


You will only get a share of a block once the pool finds one. I think the message "No valid shares...." is you haven't submitted a share 20,000 or lower on the deadline, you might want to put at least a 1TB or more towards the pool and ideally 2TB.

Well I suppose I could get some more hdd space. If not for this but for some place to save my videos, later on.
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August 21, 2014, 02:18:30 AM
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Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?
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August 21, 2014, 02:19:42 AM
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How long should it take to plot a single 3 TB plot on a 3-4 TB hard drive, using an i3-4130 cpu on 16 GB of RAM and Windows 7 64 bit?
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August 21, 2014, 02:21:55 AM
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Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

Are you just going to keep reposting this every couple of days?  
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August 21, 2014, 03:00:45 AM
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Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

Are you just going to keep reposting this every couple of days?  

aha, he must have not found a  block until now, and he just want to complain, and i wish he will not find a coin forever Grin, it is a shame if the coin flow in a pocket whose owner complain it all the day, Grin

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August 21, 2014, 03:02:09 AM
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Mined 8 blocks after 10 days. Not bad.
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August 21, 2014, 03:27:38 AM
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Mined 8 blocks after 10 days. Not bad.
10 days, 3.1Tb (currently), FX6300, RAM 8Gb = 20 blocks
Perfectly!

btw, speed of generate: 800k nonces / 35885 seconds  (=195Gb)

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August 21, 2014, 03:38:22 AM
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still selling 60k+ burst. holla.
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August 21, 2014, 05:06:28 AM
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Fix the damn 1.0.2 wallet so I don't have to copy and paste in my 12 word code every time.  It is too much effort.

I want it to remember my login.  

Right now, there are only full blocks found by miners, no partials as in a pool?

I've been mining for a day and a half now, have found no blocks from my 20 GB hard drive allocation.

From my open wallet file, the last line reads  2014-08-18 17:46:57 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true" .

Is this right?  Am I properly mining?

i do not have good news for you, with 20 GB you will get 1 block every 70 days on average

Well I am on vacation right now, and 20 GB is all the free space I have on my laptop.  When I get home I can make bigger files on other computers.


if you're running windows based pcs take a look at teamviewer for remote access to your machines. it's free, simple and works like a charm.

Don't use it more than one PC, because they will warn you that you are using it for non-personal usage. This happened to me when I was running 3 rigs with it.

my pc rebooted on me while plotting was only half way through. is it safe to launch it again and it auto resumes from where it last finished? anyone tried this or had this happened? don't want to throw away the effort if it can be reused.

It will just start the plot over from the beginning.

thanks. good to know.

edit: also, i'm sure this was asked earlier but can't recall the answer but can one miner read multiple plot files for the same plotted address but diff nounce ranges?

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August 21, 2014, 05:11:28 AM
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Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

just mine with what you have and even if the petabyte miners come along and drive up difficulty wouldn't that translate into higher price for the burst that you mined and held from the beginning. i think you're putting the cart before the horse with all this worrying.

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August 21, 2014, 05:13:36 AM
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Fix the damn 1.0.2 wallet so I don't have to copy and paste in my 12 word code every time.  It is too much effort.

I want it to remember my login.  

Right now, there are only full blocks found by miners, no partials as in a pool?

I've been mining for a day and a half now, have found no blocks from my 20 GB hard drive allocation.

From my open wallet file, the last line reads  2014-08-18 17:46:57 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true" .

Is this right?  Am I properly mining?

i do not have good news for you, with 20 GB you will get 1 block every 70 days on average

Well I am on vacation right now, and 20 GB is all the free space I have on my laptop.  When I get home I can make bigger files on other computers.


if you're running windows based pcs take a look at teamviewer for remote access to your machines. it's free, simple and works like a charm.

Don't use it more than one PC, because they will warn you that you are using it for non-personal usage. This happened to me when I was running 3 rigs with it.

my pc rebooted on me while plotting was only half way through. is it safe to launch it again and it auto resumes from where it last finished? anyone tried this or had this happened? don't want to throw away the effort if it can be reused.

It will just start the plot over from the beginning.

thanks. good to know.

Teamviewer would auto close on me after an hour of usage with 3 gpu mining rigs. But they let me use it for a month before it started doing that. So, I ended up using Windows RDC.

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August 21, 2014, 05:16:14 AM
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Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

just mine with what you have and even if the petabyte miners come along and drive up difficulty wouldn't that translate into higher price for the burst that you mined and held from the beginning. i think you're putting the cart before the horse with all this worrying.

Those Peta, maybe even Exa, miners are inevitable if this coin really hit's off. But that would be a good thing because it would drive up demand and supply would slow down, which should increase the prices.

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August 21, 2014, 05:17:12 AM
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Fix the damn 1.0.2 wallet so I don't have to copy and paste in my 12 word code every time.  It is too much effort.

I want it to remember my login.  

Right now, there are only full blocks found by miners, no partials as in a pool?

I've been mining for a day and a half now, have found no blocks from my 20 GB hard drive allocation.

From my open wallet file, the last line reads  2014-08-18 17:46:57 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true" .

Is this right?  Am I properly mining?

i do not have good news for you, with 20 GB you will get 1 block every 70 days on average

Well I am on vacation right now, and 20 GB is all the free space I have on my laptop.  When I get home I can make bigger files on other computers.


if you're running windows based pcs take a look at teamviewer for remote access to your machines. it's free, simple and works like a charm.

Don't use it more than one PC, because they will warn you that you are using it for non-personal usage. This happened to me when I was running 3 rigs with it.

my pc rebooted on me while plotting was only half way through. is it safe to launch it again and it auto resumes from where it last finished? anyone tried this or had this happened? don't want to throw away the effort if it can be reused.

It will just start the plot over from the beginning.

thanks. good to know.

Teamviewer would auto close on me after an hour of usage with 3 gpu mining rigs. But they let me use it for a month before it started doing that. So, I ended up using Windows RDC.

interesting you say that as i've had no problems using it for over 6 months now with 3 mining rigs too.

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August 21, 2014, 05:37:42 AM
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Selling 30k Burst -> BTC.
Thanks!
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August 21, 2014, 05:45:52 AM
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Fix the damn 1.0.2 wallet so I don't have to copy and paste in my 12 word code every time.  It is too much effort.

I want it to remember my login.  

Right now, there are only full blocks found by miners, no partials as in a pool?

I've been mining for a day and a half now, have found no blocks from my 20 GB hard drive allocation.

From my open wallet file, the last line reads  2014-08-18 17:46:57 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true" .

Is this right?  Am I properly mining?

i do not have good news for you, with 20 GB you will get 1 block every 70 days on average

Well I am on vacation right now, and 20 GB is all the free space I have on my laptop.  When I get home I can make bigger files on other computers.


if you're running windows based pcs take a look at teamviewer for remote access to your machines. it's free, simple and works like a charm.

Don't use it more than one PC, because they will warn you that you are using it for non-personal usage. This happened to me when I was running 3 rigs with it.

my pc rebooted on me while plotting was only half way through. is it safe to launch it again and it auto resumes from where it last finished? anyone tried this or had this happened? don't want to throw away the effort if it can be reused.

It will just start the plot over from the beginning.

thanks. good to know.

Teamviewer would auto close on me after an hour of usage with 3 gpu mining rigs. But they let me use it for a month before it started doing that. So, I ended up using Windows RDC.

interesting you say that as i've had no problems using it for over 6 months now with 3 mining rigs too.

I used the Teamviewer VPN, maybe they saw traffic that warranted that I was not using it as a standard personal usage. I'll probably buy it in the future when I need it, but for now Windows RDC does fine for me. I just run Dyndns with it or OpenVPN.

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August 21, 2014, 05:46:55 AM
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Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?
You make some valid points, but I think the beauty of Burst is that an ASIC is just more HDD space. Yes, rich investors could get more HDD space for cheaper by purchasing in bulk, but only marginally cheaper. And definitely not exponentially cheaper like with Bitcoin ASICs vs. GPUs.
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August 21, 2014, 06:01:42 AM
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Fix the damn 1.0.2 wallet so I don't have to copy and paste in my 12 word code every time.  It is too much effort.

I want it to remember my login.  

Right now, there are only full blocks found by miners, no partials as in a pool?

I've been mining for a day and a half now, have found no blocks from my 20 GB hard drive allocation.

From my open wallet file, the last line reads  2014-08-18 17:46:57 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true" .

Is this right?  Am I properly mining?

i do not have good news for you, with 20 GB you will get 1 block every 70 days on average

Well I am on vacation right now, and 20 GB is all the free space I have on my laptop.  When I get home I can make bigger files on other computers.


if you're running windows based pcs take a look at teamviewer for remote access to your machines. it's free, simple and works like a charm.

Don't use it more than one PC, because they will warn you that you are using it for non-personal usage. This happened to me when I was running 3 rigs with it.

my pc rebooted on me while plotting was only half way through. is it safe to launch it again and it auto resumes from where it last finished? anyone tried this or had this happened? don't want to throw away the effort if it can be reused.

It will just start the plot over from the beginning.

thanks. good to know.

edit: also, i'm sure this was asked earlier but can't recall the answer but can one miner read multiple plot files for the same plotted address but diff nounce ranges?

yes
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August 21, 2014, 06:04:06 AM
 #2580

Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

just mine with what you have and even if the petabyte miners come along and drive up difficulty wouldn't that translate into higher price for the burst that you mined and held from the beginning. i think you're putting the cart before the horse with all this worrying.

Those Peta, maybe even Exa, miners are inevitable if this coin really hit's off. But that would be a good thing because it would drive up demand and supply would slow down, which should increase the prices.


it would be funny if we could use the NSA's exabyte storage facility to mine this coin Smiley

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