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September 05, 2014, 09:06:10 AM
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More difficulty=Less coin mined=More miners=More value.
The big player has to come. We still in "how to mine" phase.  Wink
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September 05, 2014, 09:15:47 AM
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1 more question. can i open a few miners if i have several harddisk or partitions? I would just need to copy and paste the poc_miner to each drive right?


For 4TB harddisk (3.63TB real space), are my arguments optimum?  0 - 14,400,000. From the guide it says 200GB for 800k

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate 460635828253812312 0 14400000 1000 4


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September 05, 2014, 09:16:14 AM
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i think it might be a good idea to not develop any GPU plotter because if plotting become too fast difficulties will be very high very quickly. Right now CPU plotting put a limit how much people can plot. Even if someone buy 1 Petabyte of HDD they will need many days to plot it whereas if GPU is available people will plot Petabyte in a day and distribution of coin will be left to only a few people who build petabyte farm. People will soon not able to mine using TB if GPU plotting is available

Its not that simple. You have to take in consideration writing speeds also. They will be able to speed up nonce generating, but after a stagger is generated it has to be written to HDD.
Overall it will be faster, but not that faster.
IMO you might be able to doble the nonces/sec you get with the CPU.
But it won't be that dramatic.

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September 05, 2014, 09:17:13 AM
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Question.

If i set out to plot 800000 (200 gb) and my file name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_800000_1000 but i stop at 400000 (100 gb) should i rename my file to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_400000_1000 or it doesn't matter ?
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September 05, 2014, 09:17:23 AM
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1 more question. can i open a few miners if i have several harddisk or partitions? I would just need to copy and paste the poc_miner to each drive right?


For 4TB harddisk (3.63TB real space), are my arguments optimum?  0 - 14,400,000. From the guide it says 200GB for 800k

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate 460635828253812312 0 14400000 1000 4

Right. Its the only way to mine right now on Windows.
One miner per drive/partition

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September 05, 2014, 09:18:11 AM
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Question.

If i set out to plot 800000 (200 gb) and my file name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_800000_1000 but i stop at 400000 (100 gb) should i rename my file to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_400000_1000 or it doesn't matter ?

The file name doesn't matter. But you might want to rename it so you know how many nonces it has

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September 05, 2014, 09:23:42 AM
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Question.

If i set out to plot 800000 (200 gb) and my file name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_800000_1000 but i stop at 400000 (100 gb) should i rename my file to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_400000_1000 or it doesn't matter ?

The file name doesn't matter. But you might want to rename it so you know how many nonces it has

Another question.

If i have 10 plot , when i mine at pool , it will submit 10 plot shares or it will only submit 1 best share out of the 10 plot ?
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September 05, 2014, 09:24:10 AM
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i think it might be a good idea to not develop any GPU plotter because if plotting become too fast difficulties will be very high very quickly. Right now CPU plotting put a limit how much people can plot. Even if someone buy 1 Petabyte of HDD they will need many days to plot it whereas if GPU is available people will plot Petabyte in a day and distribution of coin will be left to only a few people who build petabyte farm. People will soon not able to mine using TB if GPU plotting is available

I agree. As much as it pains me to have to wait 5 days for a 4TB plot - it must be this way. It is the perfect barrier to entry and the only way to prevent the scumbag from sucking up all the coins leaving nothing for the average joe.

The distribution is pretty good when you think about it - not many people have more than say 8 TB on this - most are probably between 200 and 3TB. We want as many people as possible to get a nice slice of the pie, create happy customers, attract new investors and new ideas, add value to the coin.

Every coin that gets abused and dumped by mega miners end up on a consistent slope downhill Even the mighty Litecoin is a shadow of its former self.

Keep it niche - keep it profitable.
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September 05, 2014, 09:26:51 AM
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If anyone wants to sell off a good amount of BURST between 450-500, let me know and you can put an order up for me to buy, it will help us all.

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September 05, 2014, 09:27:30 AM
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So curiously, what sort of technical limitations are there to this? I saw the calculator, but how does each phase work? What sort of CPU processing overhead does the miner use? Does it climb exponentially based on the amount of TB it's scanning? Would SSDs improve the speed at which coins are mined? Is there a limitation on the size a processor can mine based on its processing power? Someone mentioned that if plotting doesn't complete fast enough, it's essentially lost?

How is data loss coped with? What happens when you lose information on one drive?

People were mentioning external hard drives, but I assume USB would turn into a bottleneck if it's constantly being scanned?

I also understand this coin could be abused from a cloud mining standpoint, but people have also been mentioning it has to scan the entire drive (which would use a crap ton of bandwidth, especially if you're talking TBs on the cloud)?
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September 05, 2014, 09:38:03 AM
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Thank you for your reply. And 1 more thing. I saw that 4TB plotting requires 5 days? Meaning to say I must never shut down my computer in between? After plotting then I can restart it and mine without having to ever plot back?


1 more question. can i open a few miners if i have several harddisk or partitions? I would just need to copy and paste the poc_miner to each drive right?


For 4TB harddisk (3.63TB real space), are my arguments optimum?  0 - 14,400,000. From the guide it says 200GB for 800k

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate 460635828253812312 0 14400000 1000 4

Right. Its the only way to mine right now on Windows.
One miner per drive/partition


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September 05, 2014, 09:39:04 AM
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What sort of CPU processing overhead does the miner use?

Some simple hashing, very little overhead. One core of a modern CPU can process 100MB/s+.

Does it climb exponentially based on the amount of TB it's scanning?

Linearly

Would SSDs improve the speed at which coins are mined?

Regular HDD's are fast enough - and way cheaper per TB.

Is there a limitation on the size a processor can mine based on its processing power? Someone mentioned that if plotting doesn't complete fast enough, it's essentially lost?

A modern I7 can easily process 100TB+ in time. There is, but its high.

How is data loss coped with? What happens when you lose information on one drive?

You can just plot the same range again. Its all deterministic.

People were mentioning external hard drives, but I assume USB would turn into a bottleneck if it's constantly being scanned?

USB 2.0 is kind of a bottleneck, but still usable. USB 3.0 is perfect for BURST.

I also understand this coin could be abused from a cloud mining standpoint, but people have also been mentioning it has to scan the entire drive (which would use a crap ton of bandwidth, especially if you're talking TBs on the cloud)?

It needs to scan 1/4096th of the data each block. Thats 256MB/TB
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September 05, 2014, 09:51:41 AM
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unofficial pool isn't displaying the diff anymore on the miner? you changed it?

yeah i optimized it a bit, since lot of users get "unable to receive mining info from wallet" its because of http request timeout, and that request of "getMiningInfo" is sent every second by all miners, multiply that by 100 miners on the pool, and add up another type of request...

ok, there is still the infamous error aout not submitting nonce
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what is wrong with v2 pool(unofficial) ? i try to mine there, i mining for like 12 hours now and still i dont have single payment...also i saw my adress on page but id disapear after few hours Sad

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September 05, 2014, 10:02:34 AM
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what is wrong with v2 pool(unofficial) ? i try to mine there, i mining for like 12 hours now and still i dont have single payment...also i saw my adress on page but id disapear after few hours Sad

Same for me, last payment 10hour ago...
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what is wrong with v2 pool(unofficial) ? i try to mine there, i mining for like 12 hours now and still i dont have single payment...also i saw my adress on page but id disapear after few hours Sad

v2 pool(unofficial)  is very slow
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September 05, 2014, 10:06:58 AM
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Diff is over 4Petabytes now Shocked
Everyone wants to have a piece of this cake now.  Grin
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September 05, 2014, 10:08:52 AM
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Is Burst going to die on c-cex ?? price is dropping day by day.
we need bittrex.
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September 05, 2014, 10:09:41 AM
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Diff is over 4Petabytes now Shocked
Everyone wants to have a piece of this cake now.  Grin

Sure!
This is the most innovative coin till 8 months.
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what is wrong with v2 pool(unofficial) ? i try to mine there, i mining for like 12 hours now and still i dont have single payment...also i saw my adress on page but id disapear after few hours Sad

Same for me, last payment 10hour ago...

minimum payout now is 250 BURST to reduce tx cost, i checked that ur address has balance of 123.9 BURST
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