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August 25, 2014, 01:38:11 PM |
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what is mlink? how can link plots? say I have two hard drives, D:\ and E:\
I have created plots on D:\ and running run_mine.bat on the D:\ drive
Now I start creating plots on the E:\ drive, do I need to start another instance of the run_mine.bat from the E:\ drive or will the one instance mine on both hard drives at once?
You should start another instance of run_mine.bat on E:. Another solution is to make a link (mklink) This has been explained several times in this thread. But running 2 instances is the better solution anyway.
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saamxx
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August 25, 2014, 01:38:26 PM |
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Like i said at the start, without development this coin will die thats for sure. But we still have the idea and maybe source code so we might get a restart again.
What? What do you have personally? Idea, coding skills. Or both of them? Will you be so kind to introduce them to us? What are you going to restart, fucking troll
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August 25, 2014, 01:38:57 PM |
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Like i said at the start, without development this coin will die thats for sure. But we still have the idea and maybe source code so we might get a restart again.
That's not a preferable option, it is an option, but not preferable one. For now, all this coin just needs currently to do now is focus a little bit more on the PR exposure and business side of things. All while concurrently adding more on to innovation side.
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scamkiller
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August 25, 2014, 01:39:36 PM |
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I don't think BURST is of any pratical use
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dcct
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August 25, 2014, 01:42:16 PM |
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I don't think BURST is of any pratical use
Hehe give it up. WE are buying the cheap BURST, no matter how much you FUD here.
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SpeedDemon13
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August 25, 2014, 01:43:06 PM |
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I don't think BURST is of any pratical use
All cryptos can be used for some kind of encryption application, but most are not practical. That's where after mining/minting, innovation is needed.
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August 25, 2014, 01:44:39 PM |
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At the current price it puts the market cap of this coin at around 50 BTC, now think about that for a second, the most innovative coin in recent memory is sitting at a market cap of $25 000.
- the coin "cap" of this coin is 50'000'000 now and will be 100'000'000 in 13 days. So someone needed to put ~$2'000 into this coin every day only to retain current price. This coin brings the innovation in mining, but what it brings to customer? Nothing new. So who would pay $2'000 daily? You can say the same about every minable coin - no, some of them at least claim that they bring to users (=buyers of coin) new level of security or anonymity, or some speed, or some fun.. But nothing new here. There is even no data storage for users: The problem with data storage, is with the current system, anyone can generate the same plot given the address/nonce combination stored in the blockchain to verify things, but if you try to do data storage, not everyone can store a copy of all the data.
- personally I was sure, that deleloper has designed that even before the start... +1 I said this problem before, and i have asked if there is any future development of this coin, for now, only i know is that this mining method is inovative, but not the coin itself, if not adding some application or advantage, this will be a big problem to this coin, lets say, yes, this is inovative to miners, but one years later, after all coins were mined , what's the advantage of this coin compared to others, others have anonymity, can chat with each other, some can be used for playing game, what 's the advantage of this coin itself,, but when i asked this question, some guys just say it will have more function, but can not tell detailly Mining innovation is great, but the space usage of data is not. I'm not complaining, it would be nice if the plots had some kind of positive data/application usages. But the biggest thing is, what is the business roadmap of the coin. Cryptos are a business also that is driven by innovative technology. For the coin to survive, it has to have an explicit plan for the business side of things. no, it makes no sense to use those plots! if i'm a investor, i don't care which way you get the coin, don't care you mine it with gpu or cpu, and for investor, did they need the plots? coin itself is still have nothing innovation to them, and for miners, when one years later, you must delete the plots for they can not mine coin anymore, i don't care what usage of these plots, plots's usage is nothing to investor or to miners. the most impotant thing is the coin itself, its innovation is what investor cares, and what they will take it a long term of investing.all important is coin itself,so if burst want to survive for a long time, new feature of the coin itself must be added Guess there's where you and me don't look eye to eye, I like the technological side of cryptos. Don't want this to be like LTC and BTC, just be currency only. No one came up with anything innovative as far as coin technology after being mined/minted. ie. Cloakcoin anon, NAV anon, etc.... Innovation in mining is a nice honeymoon, but what's after is most important. In the end, it's the business aspect what most people only care, sadly mostly profits. I just want to say feature must be added to coin itself, but not added to plots, because investors don't need any plots, it is meaningless to them, coin must have the feature they are willing to invest for it,
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August 25, 2014, 01:46:31 PM |
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what is mlink? how can link plots? say I have two hard drives, D:\ and E:\
I have created plots on D:\ and running run_mine.bat on the D:\ drive
Now I start creating plots on the E:\ drive, do I need to start another instance of the run_mine.bat from the E:\ drive or will the one instance mine on both hard drives at once?
You should start another instance of run_mine.bat on E:. Another solution is to make a link (mklink) This has been explained several times in this thread. But running 2 instances is the better solution anyway. I'm sure it has, I tried searching for it but couldn't find the answer I was looking for Someone should make a mining guide with all these things explained better.. the only guide in the ANN page is this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8298999#msg8298999Which is from page 29.. current page is 173.. Anyway thats what I thought, another instance.. thanks for the reply!
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August 25, 2014, 01:49:57 PM |
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I don't think BURST is of any pratical use
Hehe give it up. WE are buying the cheap BURST, no matter how much you FUD here. Just tell us what's the use of BURST.
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SpeedDemon13
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August 25, 2014, 01:52:19 PM |
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At the current price it puts the market cap of this coin at around 50 BTC, now think about that for a second, the most innovative coin in recent memory is sitting at a market cap of $25 000.
- the coin "cap" of this coin is 50'000'000 now and will be 100'000'000 in 13 days. So someone needed to put ~$2'000 into this coin every day only to retain current price. This coin brings the innovation in mining, but what it brings to customer? Nothing new. So who would pay $2'000 daily? You can say the same about every minable coin - no, some of them at least claim that they bring to users (=buyers of coin) new level of security or anonymity, or some speed, or some fun.. But nothing new here. There is even no data storage for users: The problem with data storage, is with the current system, anyone can generate the same plot given the address/nonce combination stored in the blockchain to verify things, but if you try to do data storage, not everyone can store a copy of all the data.
- personally I was sure, that deleloper has designed that even before the start... +1 I said this problem before, and i have asked if there is any future development of this coin, for now, only i know is that this mining method is inovative, but not the coin itself, if not adding some application or advantage, this will be a big problem to this coin, lets say, yes, this is inovative to miners, but one years later, after all coins were mined , what's the advantage of this coin compared to others, others have anonymity, can chat with each other, some can be used for playing game, what 's the advantage of this coin itself,, but when i asked this question, some guys just say it will have more function, but can not tell detailly Mining innovation is great, but the space usage of data is not. I'm not complaining, it would be nice if the plots had some kind of positive data/application usages. But the biggest thing is, what is the business roadmap of the coin. Cryptos are a business also that is driven by innovative technology. For the coin to survive, it has to have an explicit plan for the business side of things. no, it makes no sense to use those plots! if i'm a investor, i don't care which way you get the coin, don't care you mine it with gpu or cpu, and for investor, did they need the plots? coin itself is still have nothing innovation to them, and for miners, when one years later, you must delete the plots for they can not mine coin anymore, i don't care what usage of these plots, plots's usage is nothing to investor or to miners. the most impotant thing is the coin itself, its innovation is what investor cares, and what they will take it a long term of investing.all important is coin itself,so if burst want to survive for a long time, new feature of the coin itself must be added Guess there's where you and me don't look eye to eye, I like the technological side of cryptos. Don't want this to be like LTC and BTC, just be currency only. No one came up with anything innovative as far as coin technology after being mined/minted. ie. Cloakcoin anon, NAV anon, etc.... Innovation in mining is a nice honeymoon, but what's after is most important. In the end, it's the business aspect what most people only care, sadly mostly profits. I just want to said feature must be added to coin itself, but not added to plots, because investors don't need any plots, it is meaningless to them, coin must have the feature they are willing to invest for it, Putting something on the coin after minting/mining, can be appended any time. But the wasted space usage to mine, just really is wasteful in my opinion and probably a couple IT people would agree in that regard. Regardless, I fully support this coin and hope the best for it.
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CRYPTSY exchange: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/register?refid=9017 BURST= BURST-TE3W-CFGH-7343-6VM6R BTC=1CNsqGUR9YJNrhydQZnUPbaDv6h4uaYCHv ETH=0x144bc9fe471d3c71d8e09d58060d78661b1d4f32 SHF=0x13a0a2cb0d55eca975cf2d97015f7d580ce52d85 EXP=0xd71921dca837e415a58ca0d6dd2223cc84e0ea2f SC=6bdf9d12a983fed6723abad91a39be4f95d227f9bdb0490de3b8e5d45357f63d564638b1bd71 CLAMS=xGVTdM9EJpNBCYAjHFVxuZGcqvoL22nP6f SOIL=0x8b5c989bc931c0769a50ecaf9ffe490c67cb5911
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dcct
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August 25, 2014, 01:59:33 PM |
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Just tell us what's the use of BURST.
You tell me first why you are ONLY posting FUD in here. If you don't like this coin you could just leave it alone, but you don't. Hmmm
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Prototyp
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August 25, 2014, 02:01:35 PM |
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Better wasted space usage as high electricity costs.
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jzhoulon
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August 25, 2014, 02:06:28 PM |
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Better wasted space usage as high electricity costs.
yes, waste space usage or electricity costs with big noise , one must be chosen if you want to get coin, that was the an miner must paid for getting the coin, or what is the difference between miner and inverstor?
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dcct
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August 25, 2014, 02:25:06 PM |
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I like to announce: The Plot-generator rewritten in C! It has several advantages over the one written in Java: - About twice as fast- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory - More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read. You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows? How to run it: Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make) Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator: ./plot <key> <starting nonce> <nonces> <stagger size> <threads> You can download it here: https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz
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jzhoulon
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August 25, 2014, 02:25:40 PM |
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At the current price it puts the market cap of this coin at around 50 BTC, now think about that for a second, the most innovative coin in recent memory is sitting at a market cap of $25 000.
- the coin "cap" of this coin is 50'000'000 now and will be 100'000'000 in 13 days. So someone needed to put ~$2'000 into this coin every day only to retain current price. This coin brings the innovation in mining, but what it brings to customer? Nothing new. So who would pay $2'000 daily? You can say the same about every minable coin - no, some of them at least claim that they bring to users (=buyers of coin) new level of security or anonymity, or some speed, or some fun.. But nothing new here. There is even no data storage for users: The problem with data storage, is with the current system, anyone can generate the same plot given the address/nonce combination stored in the blockchain to verify things, but if you try to do data storage, not everyone can store a copy of all the data.
- personally I was sure, that deleloper has designed that even before the start... +1 I said this problem before, and i have asked if there is any future development of this coin, for now, only i know is that this mining method is inovative, but not the coin itself, if not adding some application or advantage, this will be a big problem to this coin, lets say, yes, this is inovative to miners, but one years later, after all coins were mined , what's the advantage of this coin compared to others, others have anonymity, can chat with each other, some can be used for playing game, what 's the advantage of this coin itself,, but when i asked this question, some guys just say it will have more function, but can not tell detailly Mining innovation is great, but the space usage of data is not. I'm not complaining, it would be nice if the plots had some kind of positive data/application usages. But the biggest thing is, what is the business roadmap of the coin. Cryptos are a business also that is driven by innovative technology. For the coin to survive, it has to have an explicit plan for the business side of things. no, it makes no sense to use those plots! if i'm a investor, i don't care which way you get the coin, don't care you mine it with gpu or cpu, and for investor, did they need the plots? coin itself is still have nothing innovation to them, and for miners, when one years later, you must delete the plots for they can not mine coin anymore, i don't care what usage of these plots, plots's usage is nothing to investor or to miners. the most impotant thing is the coin itself, its innovation is what investor cares, and what they will take it a long term of investing.all important is coin itself,so if burst want to survive for a long time, new feature of the coin itself must be added Guess there's where you and me don't look eye to eye, I like the technological side of cryptos. Don't want this to be like LTC and BTC, just be currency only. No one came up with anything innovative as far as coin technology after being mined/minted. ie. Cloakcoin anon, NAV anon, etc.... Innovation in mining is a nice honeymoon, but what's after is most important. In the end, it's the business aspect what most people only care, sadly mostly profits. I just want to said feature must be added to coin itself, but not added to plots, because investors don't need any plots, it is meaningless to them, coin must have the feature they are willing to invest for it, i Putting something on the coin after minting/mining, can be appended any time. But the wasted space usage to mine, just really is wasteful in my opinion and probably a couple IT people would agree in that regard. Regardless, I fully support this coin and hope the best for it. i also support this coin , but we need a detail roadmap of this coin,right? we can discuss with dev, if he is busy developing poc mining, have no time to think more about this coin, we can discuss what feature can be add and if we have ability, then we can together discuss with dev and to make a roadmap of this coin, right? when the pool finished, have no problem at mining at all, then what's important is coin's feature, when we introduce the coin to miners , we tell them the feature of POC, that is they can mine with hdd, but when we introduce this coin to investors, what we tell them is the coin's feature..right?
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saamxx
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August 25, 2014, 02:26:39 PM |
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Like i said at the start, without development this coin will die thats for sure. But we still have the idea and maybe source code so we might get a restart again.
What? What do you have personally? Idea, coding skills. Or both of them? Will you be so kind to introduce them to us? What are you going to restart, fucking troll You should know that if you start attacking people like that you will get even more FUD because most scams try to censor any FUD they can. I have already read hundred thousands of posts, here on forum. I saw scam&superscam, fud&superfud, attack&superattacks and many other very usefull staff . I was watched on hundreds coins, how they rise and fall, step-by step. So don't teach me I know that the more coin worth itself, the more fuds, scam accasuations, and haters, and liers it is attract. And there was no one precedent -than fud&trolls were the winner,whatsoever they said or did. So, feel free to spreading fuds And i will continue to be free to point out on it.
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August 25, 2014, 02:29:03 PM |
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windows version? I like to announce: The Plot-generator rewritten in C! It has several advantages over the one written in Java: - About twice as fast- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory - More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read. You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows? How to run it: Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make) Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator: ./plot <key> <starting nonce> <nonces> <stagger size> <threads> You can download it here: https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz
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dcct
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August 25, 2014, 02:32:54 PM |
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Yep, thats why i wait for a coin like burst in C/C++ Java is not made for currency's and is likely to be exploited because of design errors.
What "design errors" are you talking about? Proof your point! This plot generator is just optimized for speed. The client itself does not need to be. windows version? Read the post!
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August 25, 2014, 02:33:35 PM |
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why there is still no source for this?
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August 25, 2014, 02:34:14 PM |
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At the current price it puts the market cap of this coin at around 50 BTC, now think about that for a second, the most innovative coin in recent memory is sitting at a market cap of $25 000.
- the coin "cap" of this coin is 50'000'000 now and will be 100'000'000 in 13 days. So someone needed to put ~$2'000 into this coin every day only to retain current price. This coin brings the innovation in mining, but what it brings to customer? Nothing new. So who would pay $2'000 daily? You can say the same about every minable coin - no, some of them at least claim that they bring to users (=buyers of coin) new level of security or anonymity, or some speed, or some fun.. But nothing new here. There is even no data storage for users: The problem with data storage, is with the current system, anyone can generate the same plot given the address/nonce combination stored in the blockchain to verify things, but if you try to do data storage, not everyone can store a copy of all the data.
- personally I was sure, that deleloper has designed that even before the start... +1 I said this problem before, and i have asked if there is any future development of this coin, for now, only i know is that this mining method is inovative, but not the coin itself, if not adding some application or advantage, this will be a big problem to this coin, lets say, yes, this is inovative to miners, but one years later, after all coins were mined , what's the advantage of this coin compared to others, others have anonymity, can chat with each other, some can be used for playing game, what 's the advantage of this coin itself,, but when i asked this question, some guys just say it will have more function, but can not tell detailly Mining innovation is great, but the space usage of data is not. I'm not complaining, it would be nice if the plots had some kind of positive data/application usages. But the biggest thing is, what is the business roadmap of the coin. Cryptos are a business also that is driven by innovative technology. For the coin to survive, it has to have an explicit plan for the business side of things. no, it makes no sense to use those plots! if i'm a investor, i don't care which way you get the coin, don't care you mine it with gpu or cpu, and for investor, did they need the plots? coin itself is still have nothing innovation to them, and for miners, when one years later, you must delete the plots for they can not mine coin anymore, i don't care what usage of these plots, plots's usage is nothing to investor or to miners. the most impotant thing is the coin itself, its innovation is what investor cares, and what they will take it a long term of investing.all important is coin itself,so if burst want to survive for a long time, new feature of the coin itself must be added Guess there's where you and me don't look eye to eye, I like the technological side of cryptos. Don't want this to be like LTC and BTC, just be currency only. No one came up with anything innovative as far as coin technology after being mined/minted. ie. Cloakcoin anon, NAV anon, etc.... Innovation in mining is a nice honeymoon, but what's after is most important. In the end, it's the business aspect what most people only care, sadly mostly profits. I just want to said feature must be added to coin itself, but not added to plots, because investors don't need any plots, it is meaningless to them, coin must have the feature they are willing to invest for it, i Putting something on the coin after minting/mining, can be appended any time. But the wasted space usage to mine, just really is wasteful in my opinion and probably a couple IT people would agree in that regard. Regardless, I fully support this coin and hope the best for it. i also support this coin , but we need a detail roadmap of this coin,right? we can discuss with dev, if he is busy developing poc mining, have no time to think more about this coin, we can discuss what feature can be add and if we have ability, then we can together discuss with dev and to make a roadmap of this coin, right? when the pool finished, have no problem at mining at all, then what's important is coin's feature, when we introduce the coin to miners , we tell them the feature of POC, that is they can mine with hdd, but when we introduce this coin to investors, what we tell them is the coin's feature..right? talk is a way to decide the future
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