[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[dcct]

why there is still no source for this?

There is, for everything. Right in the OP.

[SpeedDemon13]

At the current price it puts the market cap of this coin at around 50 BTC, now think about that for a second, the most innovative coin in recent memory is sitting at a market cap of $25 000.

- the coin "cap" of this coin is 50'000'000 now and will be 100'000'000 in 13 days.

So someone needed to put ~$2'000 into this coin every day only to retain current price.

This coin brings the innovation in mining, but what it brings to customer? Nothing new. So who would pay $2'000 daily?

You can say the same about every minable coin  

- no, some of them at least claim that they bring to users (=buyers of coin) new level of security or anonymity, or some speed, or some fun..  But nothing new here.  There is even no data storage for users:

The problem with data storage, is with the current system, anyone can generate the same plot given the address/nonce combination stored in the blockchain to verify things, but if you try to do data storage, not everyone can store a copy of all the data.

- personally I was sure, that deleloper has designed that even before the start...

+1 I said this problem before, and i have asked if there is any future development of this coin, for now, only i know is that this mining method is inovative, but not the coin itself, if not adding some application or advantage, this will be a big problem to this coin, lets say, yes, this is inovative to miners, but one years later, after all coins were mined , what's the advantage of this coin compared to others, others have anonymity, can chat with each other, some can be used for playing game, what 's the advantage of this coin itself,, but when i asked this question, some guys just say it will have more function, but can not tell detailly

Mining innovation is great, but the space usage of data is not. I'm not complaining, it would be nice if the plots had some kind of positive data/application usages. But the biggest thing is, what is the business roadmap of the coin. Cryptos are a business also that is driven by innovative technology. For the coin to survive, it has to have an explicit plan for the business side of things.

no, it makes no sense to use those plots! if i'm a investor, i don't care which way you get the coin, don't care you mine it with gpu or cpu, and for investor, did they need the plots? coin itself is still have nothing innovation to them, and for miners, when one years later, you must delete the plots for they can not mine coin anymore, i don't care what usage of these plots, plots's usage is nothing to investor or to miners. the most impotant thing is the coin itself, its innovation is what investor cares, and what they will take it a long term of investing.all important is coin itself,so if burst want to survive for a long time, new feature of the coin itself must be added

Guess there's where you and me don't look eye to eye, I like the technological side of cryptos. Don't want this to be like LTC and BTC, just be currency only. No one came up with anything innovative as far as coin technology after being mined/minted. ie. Cloakcoin anon, NAV anon, etc.... Innovation in mining is a nice honeymoon, but what's after is most important. In the end, it's the business aspect what most people only care, sadly mostly profits.

I just want to said feature must be added to coin itself, but not added to plots, because investors don't need any plots, it is meaningless to them, coin must have the feature they are willing to invest for it,

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Putting something on the coin after minting/mining, can be appended any time. But the wasted space usage to mine, just really is wasteful in my opinion and probably a couple IT people would agree in that regard. Regardless, I fully support this coin and hope the best for it.

i also support this coin , but we need a detail roadmap of this coin,right? we can discuss with dev, if he is busy developing poc mining, have no time to think more about this coin, we can discuss what feature can be add and if we have ability, then we can together discuss with dev and to make a roadmap of this coin, right? when the pool finished, have no problem at mining at all, then what's important is coin's feature, when we introduce the coin to miners , we tell them the feature of POC, that is they can mine with hdd, but when we introduce this coin to investors, what we tell them is the coin's feature..right?

Hopefully the dev will get on the business side of things via a PR/business team. I've sent emails and tweets to Coindesk and http://cryptomining-blog.com/, hopefully they consider doing an article for Burst. Also, sent a tweet to http://coinmarketcap.com/ a couple of days ago.

[marcus556]

Is it possible to take the 2tb Ext drive i have to another PC to let it mine after it plots without affecting the current blocks i have mined?

[dcct]

The language Java has design faults. Not your coded C plot generator.

Sure! What Java design faults - that are relevant to burst - are you talking about?

Is it possible to take the 2tb Ext drive i have to another PC to let it mine after it plots without affecting the current blocks i have mined?

Sure. Just choose a start nonce thats above all your other plots. They don't need to be in order - just make sure they don't overlap.

[jzhoulon]

why there is still no source for this?

There is, for everything. Right in the OP.

when you download wallet sever or pocminer_v1, you will find src filefolder in it, all source are in it, and what else source code you need

[marcus556]

no im talking about after its completely plotted, before i actually found a block i tried moving the drive and when i did i have to copy a fresh copy of the wallet over the existing one.  After this then the wallet would pull up but like i said this was before i found a block.  What i am scared of is that if i copy over the wallet now it will erase the blocks i have found.

[saamxx]

I don't know Cloakcoin wasn't a scam ?

Go and do you own research...

Kids/Scamers like you can keep arguing with me i like these nonsense talk as you just said nothing in both of your posts.

Kids/Scammers like you, can keep arguing with me. But I don't like these foolish talk, as you just continuously posting nonsence in all of your posts

[marcus556]

The language Java has design faults. Not your coded C plot generator.

Sure! What Java design faults - that are relevant to burst - are you talking about?

Is it possible to take the 2tb Ext drive i have to another PC to let it mine after it plots without affecting the current blocks i have mined?

Sure. Just choose a start nonce thats above all your other plots. They don't need to be in order - just make sure they don't overlap.

no im talking about after its completely plotted, before i actually found a block i tried moving the drive and when i did i have to copy a fresh copy of the wallet over the existing one.  After this then the wallet would pull up but like i said this was before i found a block.  What i am scared of is that if i copy over the wallet now it will erase the blocks i have found.

I have a dedicated miner here at work that runs 24/7 and was gonna move the drive to it.  I did the plotting on the computer at home because it has a LOT faster CPU in it and got the 2tb done probably days before the computer here would've.  So i would like to move the drive to there but am having issues with moving the drive to other computers because the wallet will not open unless i copy over it.

[truckythin]

I like to announce:

The Plot-generator rewritten in C!

It has several advantages over the one written in Java:
- About twice as fast
- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory
- More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read.

You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows?

How to run it:
Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make)

Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator:

Code:

./plot <key> <starting nonce> <nonces> <stagger size> <threads>

You can download it here:
https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz

getting this when build on cygwin, any clu?
shabal.s:57: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized character is `s'

[dcct]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Java

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_security

https://www.google.com/search?q=Java+insecurity

The Java platform provides a security architecture[30] which is designed to allow the user to run untrusted bytecode in a "sandboxed" manner to protect against malicious or poorly written software. This "sandboxing" feature is intended to protect the user by restricting access to certain platform features and APIs which could be exploited by malware, such as accessing the local filesystem, running arbitrary commands, or accessing communication networks.

If there is a 0-day exploit in the sandboxing code again then all your source codes are fucked.

Centralization in a codeing language is the most retarded idea i've ever seen.

I was talking about relevant issues.
Burstcoin does not run any untrusted bytecode. And where's the advantage of C/C++ there? They offer no/less protection when running untrusted code  

Memory requirement? Sure, java needs more memory. Speed? Java is slower most of the time. But for security I don't see any issues here.

[dcct]

getting this when build on cygwin, any clu?
shabal.s:57: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized character is `s'

I've never worked with cygwin. shabal.s is Assembler code, maybe you need to compile it separately?

[dcct]

I don't have to say anything to this, just read my past post and think about it for a while.

Is this your way of saying "I have no more arguments left"? 

[saamxx]

I don't know Cloakcoin wasn't a scam ?

Go and do you own research...

Kids/Scamers like you can keep arguing with me i like these nonsense talk as you just said nothing in both of your posts.

Kids/Scammers like you, can keep arguing with me. But I don't like these foolish talk, as you just continuously posting nonsence in all of your posts

Yep as a scam hunter since 2013 i always get accused to be a scammer. If you don't like how i talk there is always a ignore button just for your information.

Scam hunter lol
How many scammer's head do you have?
Ok. Please,just never put a presumptuous words about restarting something that doesn't belongs to you. And everything will be Ok.
ScamBUSTER lol

[SpeedDemon13]

I like to announce:

The Plot-generator rewritten in C!

It has several advantages over the one written in Java:
- About twice as fast
- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory
- More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read.

You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows?

How to run it:
Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make)

Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator:

Code:

./plot <key> <starting nonce> <nonces> <stagger size> <threads>

You can download it here:
https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz

Cool...Maybe I'll setup an Ubuntu setup to try this out....It would be nice if this was ported to Windows...

[marcus556]

dcct, did you get my last message?

[dcct]

dcct, did you get my last message?

I have a dedicated miner here at work that runs 24/7 and was gonna move the drive to it.  I did the plotting on the computer at home because it has a LOT faster CPU in it and got the 2tb done probably days before the computer here would've.  So i would like to move the drive to there but am having issues with moving the drive to other computers because the wallet will not open unless i copy over it.

This one?
You just need a client running there. You could as well install a new one and use it just for mining. Moving the plots over should be no problem.

[jose60]

I noticed a decrease in share in pool, is increasing the difficulty?

[marcus556]

dcct, did you get my last message?

I have a dedicated miner here at work that runs 24/7 and was gonna move the drive to it.  I did the plotting on the computer at home because it has a LOT faster CPU in it and got the 2tb done probably days before the computer here would've.  So i would like to move the drive to there but am having issues with moving the drive to other computers because the wallet will not open unless i copy over it.

This one?
You just need a client running there. You could as well install a new one and use it just for mining. Moving the plots over should be no problem.

Yes, but will this affect my blocks in my current wallet?  Everytime before, when i would try to run the .bat file in the wallet it would open an close immediately.  I found that if you just re copt the burst folder back in and overwrite the old wallet it would work and still allow you to use your plots.  Just curious if i can do this now or if it will mess things up.  Taken me quite a few days to find 1 block and if i read the wallet correctly i have 2 now lol dont wanna lose them!  

[SpeedDemon13]

I noticed a decrease in share in pool, is increasing the difficulty?

Just seems like more people are mining on it.

[BChydro]

I noticed a decrease in share in pool, is increasing the difficulty?

The pool share difficulty hasn't changed, but it does not require more work to find a share. You're finding less shares because the overall Burst network difficulty is rising. Remember to find a share, the pool miner hashes all the applicable scoops then divides by the scaling factor (inverse of the difficulty) to get the deadline. If the deadline is below 50k, you have a share! This is different from POW mining because each share becomes harder to find as the difficulty increases, which is what is happening now.

Also because the scaling factor (difficulty) variable comes into play for finding a share: the amount of shares required to find a block on average should be constant.

For POW: Amount of work to find a share is constant, amount of shares to find a block depends on difficulty
For POC: Amount of work to find a share depends on difficulty, amount of shares to find a block is constant