[ANN] Syscoin- FINAL 2.0 LAUNCHED! *ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BTC INTEGRATION*

[Beachguy]

link to 1.5 is on front page

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I like where it is going now. Seems like people in the community got active finally and there will be some coding going on. Let's not forget to promote the hell of it ASAP. I guess it's time to withdraw Sys from the exchange to the wallet.

Long overdue! I have been buying and withdrawing since the day I found sys. The only sys that has left my wallet was a 20k tip to another holder who formatted his hd, and some testing sys for marketplace dev.

[Zebedee23]

I like where it is going now. Seems like people in the community got active finally and there will be some coding going on. Let's not forget to promote the hell of it ASAP. I guess it's time to withdraw Sys from the exchange to the wallet.

Long overdue! I have been buying and withdrawing since the day I found sys. The only sys that has left my wallet was a 20k tip to another holder who formatted his hd, and some testing sys for marketplace dev.

If its 1 thing this moolah debacle should have taught, not to mention all the other exchange that have dissapeared with funds , is NEVER keep your coins on exchanges!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zebedee23]

Are there plans to add Coin Control to wallet??

[Pmalek]

Coin control? Whats that?

[IMJim]

Coin control? Whats that?

My understanding of this, which may be a bit bleak, is this is an advanced feature many wallets have these days that allow you to choose which coins in your wallet you want to send.  I think is only useful for POS wallets so not sure why we would want it for SYS.  I think the main idea behind it, mind you I have never used it.......is to allow you to choose coins to send based on their age and their viability to stake depending on the POS settings for that coin.  For example if you have older coins that no longer stake because they are past their staking age, you would want to use these coins first in any transactions so as to keep the coins that are still staking.

Probably a shabby explanation, but best I could do with my understanding and having never used it.

[vicvelcro]

Or perhaps they would consider collaborating on it together and splitting the bounty. I'll throw in 25k SYS minimum, whether they race or tag-team it.

Again, they need a working product that end users will not have to read a page of instructions to enter text into the console to put an item up, as previously explained that much is trivial on the programming side of it, they should be at the part of beefing up security of that aspect by now and building websites around it is a moot point without the GUI in the wallet.  This is a prerequisite to people buying into it, without that, it is not ready for market as it is not a viable product.

I think tonight I'm gonna write a win32 app that talks to the wallet so there's an answer for this marketplace that people can use without console commands. Better stock up on coffee!

LoL - I had the same thought last night. I was going to write it in C# or something and open source it.

I'll race you! I still need to install VS though, so hopefully I can start tonight.

I got 100,00 SYS on it for the winner if you guys do race

[kamronk]

Sooooo, i just heard about bitbay, and if i didnt know any better, id say syscoin devs rebranded sys as bitbay (because how similar the feature sets of the two coins are)

Dev's, have you considered the loss of originality you once had on the market for decentralized markets?

I understand the battle with moolah, but im starting to feel it was a "penny wise but pound foolish" type of decision to focus all resources on that battle. Are ALL devs needed in that? Even coderboo? Im starting to come around to the fud'ers that syacoin has been poorly managed. Please explain a bit...i've had your guys' backs since pre-IPO :/

[danosphere]

Hey, so I just noticed everything on syscoin.market is only 88SYS.

Was excited until I realized it's every item, is this an error?

It's an error in the Syscoin code. if you do an "offerscan 0 500" in the console you'll see the price of those items is 88 sys as well, except for the ones that have been updated, which are incremented by 88 sys every time they are updated for some reason  

offer.cpp at line 2063 in method offerinfo

         oOffer.push_back(Pair("price", ValueFromAmount(theOffer.nFee) ) );

It's returning the network fee for the offer (which is set to 88 by default). The fact that the fee appears to increment during an offerupdate might be related to line 64 in offer.cpp in method GetOfferNetworkFee

int64 nRes = 88 * COIN;

I don't know where the COIN const is defined by it's referenced everywhere. It seems like it should be "1" but perhaps it is being incremented incorrectly somewhere too.

@danosphere @mwheeleruk @coderboo etc I have created an issue in github for this item to be reviewed.

@j4ce1 thanks I saw https://github.com/syscoin/syscoin/issues/34- this is a quick issue to fix we'll release a patch-fix for this ASAP. I'm working on Syscoin'd blockmarket (https://github.com/syscoin/blockmarket) this weekend, it'll be another front end in addition to that built at syscoin.market for users to interact with Syscoin Marketplace features.

Had some legal stuff chew up time this weekend.

Sooooo, i just heard about bitbay, and if i didnt know any better, id say syscoin devs rebranded sys as bitbay (because how similar the feature sets of the two coins are)

Dev's, have you considered the loss of originality you once had on the market for decentralized markets?

I understand the battle with moolah, but im starting to feel it was a "penny wise but pound foolish" type of decision to focus all resources on that battle. Are ALL devs needed in that? Even coderboo? Im starting to come around to the fud'ers that syacoin has been poorly managed. Please explain a bit...i've had your guys' backs since pre-IPO :/

There were already multiple coins working on decentralized markets. Competition is a good thing. The Moolah battle is about more than just Syscoin's funds its about accountability in crypto. In that same vein its about budgeting- we planned things against a certain budget, that budget is now gone. We're working on moving the coin features forward but with no funding and and a parallel legal battle things take time. The legal costs are coming out of our pocket- funded by our dayjobs- which are not developing Syscoin.

We've been working on this for almost a year at this point. We raised funds and had a lot going for us then we got ripped off. There is a still a TON of potential in this tech and we're working to push it forward. We're doing our best given the hand we've been dealt. As has been stated before we all work fulltime jobs, the presale funding was to be used to hire developers which we were doing; once the funding "vanished", so were most the additional devs. Now its mostly back to the core team, and our limited hours until we recoup our funds from Moolah. Until then we're keeping things moving albeit at a slower pace than we'd prefer.

Openbazaar was around while we were developing SYS, and looking at BitBay I'm not really concerned; def not a rebranded SYS if you look at their website it claims the only thing ready on launch is wallets. Everything is claimed to be in development / planned - including the decentralized markets. They're working on decentralized markets and other stuff, like many other coins are doing. We've done it, we need to dress it better and that's our current focus (both for Syscoin Markets themselves and the Syscoin Wallet as a whole).

For those efforts, all devs are needed including coderboo and myself. Coding during the hours which are available after work. Much of my time after work is taken up by legal. Also remember we're working on new features which need to be designed before they are built/released, and we have a number of private repositories in which we're doing work in order to protect our ideas before they are released fully. You can already see Syscoin Assets in alpha (publicly) in our Github repo coderboo has been working on that, and there are several features already in our core app that aren't properly useable for "average joe" users- rest of the team is focused right now on usability, games, and mobile apps. The features are there at the core level!

[Zebedee23]

Or perhaps they would consider collaborating on it together and splitting the bounty. I'll throw in 25k SYS minimum, whether they race or tag-team it.

Again, they need a working product that end users will not have to read a page of instructions to enter text into the console to put an item up, as previously explained that much is trivial on the programming side of it, they should be at the part of beefing up security of that aspect by now and building websites around it is a moot point without the GUI in the wallet.  This is a prerequisite to people buying into it, without that, it is not ready for market as it is not a viable product.

I think tonight I'm gonna write a win32 app that talks to the wallet so there's an answer for this marketplace that people can use without console commands. Better stock up on coffee!

LoL - I had the same thought last night. I was going to write it in C# or something and open source it.

I'll race you! I still need to install VS though, so hopefully I can start tonight.

I got 100,00 SYS on it for the winner if you guys do race

ill add 50,000 to this ever increasing bounty

[sphericon]

Or perhaps they would consider collaborating on it together and splitting the bounty. I'll throw in 25k SYS minimum, whether they race or tag-team it.

Again, they need a working product that end users will not have to read a page of instructions to enter text into the console to put an item up, as previously explained that much is trivial on the programming side of it, they should be at the part of beefing up security of that aspect by now and building websites around it is a moot point without the GUI in the wallet.  This is a prerequisite to people buying into it, without that, it is not ready for market as it is not a viable product.

I think tonight I'm gonna write a win32 app that talks to the wallet so there's an answer for this marketplace that people can use without console commands. Better stock up on coffee!

LoL - I had the same thought last night. I was going to write it in C# or something and open source it.

I'll race you! I still need to install VS though, so hopefully I can start tonight.

I got 100,00 SYS on it for the winner if you guys do race

ill add 50,000 to this ever increasing bounty

I have a Windows dev environment set up and I'm working on getting the c# talking to the wallet right now.  I'd like to see this come to light, not just for a bounty, but because I think it would be totally useful and awesome for the average person to be able to use a decentralized classified ads system with payment built in. Think of the possibilities of that!

What excites me more about this coin are all the other things they are building into it. This has a ton of potential. Another thing to think about-maybe the team could recruit some other developers who are interested in the coin as well. Sure, they could have hired some with moolah funds, but I bet there are some who would work on it for fun. PR campaign for that perhaps?

[sphericon]

@j4ce1 thanks I saw https://github.com/syscoin/syscoin/issues/34- this is a quick issue to fix we'll release a patch-fix for this ASAP. I'm working on Syscoin'd blockmarket (https://github.com/syscoin/blockmarket) this weekend, it'll be another front end in addition to that built at syscoin.market for users to interact with Syscoin Marketplace features.


There were already multiple coins working on decentralized markets. Competition is a good thing. The Moolah battle is about more than just Syscoin's funds its about accountability in crypto. In that same vein its about budgeting- we planned things against a certain budget, that budget is now gone. We're working on moving the coin features forward but with no funding and and a parallel legal battle things take time. The legal costs are coming out of our pocket- funded by our dayjobs- which are not developing Syscoin.

We've been working on this for almost a year at this point. We raised funds and had a lot going for us then we got ripped off. There is a still a TON of potential in this tech and we're working to push it forward. We're doing our best given the hand we've been dealt. As has been stated before we all work fulltime jobs, the presale funding was to be used to hire developers which we were doing; once the funding "vanished", so were most the additional devs. Now its mostly back to the core team, and our limited hours until we recoup our funds from Moolah. Until then we're keeping things moving albeit at a slower pace than we'd prefer.

Openbazaar was around while we were developing SYS, and looking at BitBay I'm not really concerned; def not a rebranded SYS if you look at their website it claims the only thing ready on launch is wallets. Everything is claimed to be in development / planned - including the decentralized markets. They're working on decentralized markets and other stuff, like many other coins are doing. We've done it, we need to dress it better and that's our current focus (both for Syscoin Markets themselves and the Syscoin Wallet as a whole).

For those efforts, all devs are needed including coderboo and myself. Coding during the hours which are available after work. Much of my time after work is taken up by legal. Also remember we're working on new features which need to be designed before they are built/released, and we have a number of private repositories in which we're doing work in order to protect our ideas before they are released fully. You can already see Syscoin Assets in alpha (publicly) in our Github repo coderboo has been working on that, and there are several features already in our core app that aren't properly useable for "average joe" users- rest of the team is focused right now on usability, games, and mobile apps. The features are there at the core level!

Also danosphere, I'm thinking your implementation will be more feature rich than the one I put up at http://syscoin.market. If you want I can replace my version with yours once its more complete. I thought the domain was perfectly suited for a marketplace, don't you agree?

[shadowduck]

===here is the github history of syscoin====
syscoin: Updated 7 days ago
blockmarket: Updated on 5 Oct
syscoin-api: Updated on 5 Oct
syscoin-services: Updated on 19 Sep
node-syscoin: Updated on 14 Sep
======
Is it resonable and acceptable for a team with many developers?

I know you are involved in legal affairs, but.....
if even the chief coder i.e coderboo is involved fully, than I must say that the team is organized pooly.
You guys should have responsibility divided to the right one, each for some specific aspect rather than let everyone involved in everything.

Maybe I am wrong because you have some private repositories to have all your recent work.

[optigon]

===here is the github history of syscoin====
syscoin: Updated 7 days ago
blockmarket: Updated on 5 Oct
syscoin-api: Updated on 5 Oct
syscoin-services: Updated on 19 Sep
node-syscoin: Updated on 14 Sep
======
Is it resonable and acceptable for a team with many developers?

I know you are involved in legal affairs, but.....
if even the chief coder i.e coderboo is involved fully, than I must say that the team is organized pooly.
You guys should have responsibility divided to the right one, each for some specific aspect rather than let everyone involved in everything.

Maybe I am wrong because you have some private repositories to have all your recent work.

Syscoin was officially announced on April 27, 2014.....what has been done since then? It's been already half year
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=587080.0

[kamronk]

===here is the github history of syscoin====
syscoin: Updated 7 days ago
blockmarket: Updated on 5 Oct
syscoin-api: Updated on 5 Oct
syscoin-services: Updated on 19 Sep
node-syscoin: Updated on 14 Sep
======
Is it resonable and acceptable for a team with many developers?

I know you are involved in legal affairs, but.....
if even the chief coder i.e coderboo is involved fully, than I must say that the team is organized pooly.
You guys should have responsibility divided to the right one, each for some specific aspect rather than let everyone involved in everything.

Maybe I am wrong because you have some private repositories to have all your recent work.

He did mention a private repo, which with the competition, and everone dev'ing in c++, it does make a bit of sense to dev privately until a release is ready.

[thissuxballs]

Hey, so I just noticed everything on syscoin.market is only 88SYS.

Was excited until I realized it's every item, is this an error?

It's an error in the Syscoin code. if you do an "offerscan 0 500" in the console you'll see the price of those items is 88 sys as well, except for the ones that have been updated, which are incremented by 88 sys every time they are updated for some reason  

offer.cpp at line 2063 in method offerinfo

         oOffer.push_back(Pair("price", ValueFromAmount(theOffer.nFee) ) );

It's returning the network fee for the offer (which is set to 88 by default). The fact that the fee appears to increment during an offerupdate might be related to line 64 in offer.cpp in method GetOfferNetworkFee

int64 nRes = 88 * COIN;

I don't know where the COIN const is defined by it's referenced everywhere. It seems like it should be "1" but perhaps it is being incremented incorrectly somewhere too.

@danosphere @mwheeleruk @coderboo etc I have created an issue in github for this item to be reviewed.

@j4ce1 thanks I saw https://github.com/syscoin/syscoin/issues/34- this is a quick issue to fix we'll release a patch-fix for this ASAP. I'm working on Syscoin'd blockmarket (https://github.com/syscoin/blockmarket) this weekend, it'll be another front end in addition to that built at syscoin.market for users to interact with Syscoin Marketplace features.

Had some legal stuff chew up time this weekend.

Sooooo, i just heard about bitbay, and if i didnt know any better, id say syscoin devs rebranded sys as bitbay (because how similar the feature sets of the two coins are)

Dev's, have you considered the loss of originality you once had on the market for decentralized markets?

I understand the battle with moolah, but im starting to feel it was a "penny wise but pound foolish" type of decision to focus all resources on that battle. Are ALL devs needed in that? Even coderboo? Im starting to come around to the fud'ers that syacoin has been poorly managed. Please explain a bit...i've had your guys' backs since pre-IPO :/

There were already multiple coins working on decentralized markets. Competition is a good thing. The Moolah battle is about more than just Syscoin's funds its about accountability in crypto. In that same vein its about budgeting- we planned things against a certain budget, that budget is now gone. We're working on moving the coin features forward but with no funding and and a parallel legal battle things take time. The legal costs are coming out of our pocket- funded by our dayjobs- which are not developing Syscoin.

We've been working on this for almost a year at this point. We raised funds and had a lot going for us then we got ripped off. There is a still a TON of potential in this tech and we're working to push it forward. We're doing our best given the hand we've been dealt. As has been stated before we all work fulltime jobs, the presale funding was to be used to hire developers which we were doing; once the funding "vanished", so were most the additional devs. Now its mostly back to the core team, and our limited hours until we recoup our funds from Moolah. Until then we're keeping things moving albeit at a slower pace than we'd prefer.

Openbazaar was around while we were developing SYS, and looking at BitBay I'm not really concerned; def not a rebranded SYS if you look at their website it claims the only thing ready on launch is wallets. Everything is claimed to be in development / planned - including the decentralized markets. They're working on decentralized markets and other stuff, like many other coins are doing. We've done it, we need to dress it better and that's our current focus (both for Syscoin Markets themselves and the Syscoin Wallet as a whole).

For those efforts, all devs are needed including coderboo and myself. Coding during the hours which are available after work. Much of my time after work is taken up by legal. Also remember we're working on new features which need to be designed before they are built/released, and we have a number of private repositories in which we're doing work in order to protect our ideas before they are released fully. You can already see Syscoin Assets in alpha (publicly) in our Github repo coderboo has been working on that, and there are several features already in our core app that aren't properly useable for "average joe" users- rest of the team is focused right now on usability, games, and mobile apps. The features are there at the core level!

Excuses after excuses. That is all we seem to be getting even when things were going right (before moolah BS). You guys are doing what exactly legally??? What are you talking about??? That's the lawyers job!

[Ickystew]

Or perhaps they would consider collaborating on it together and splitting the bounty. I'll throw in 25k SYS minimum, whether they race or tag-team it.

Again, they need a working product that end users will not have to read a page of instructions to enter text into the console to put an item up, as previously explained that much is trivial on the programming side of it, they should be at the part of beefing up security of that aspect by now and building websites around it is a moot point without the GUI in the wallet.  This is a prerequisite to people buying into it, without that, it is not ready for market as it is not a viable product.

I think tonight I'm gonna write a win32 app that talks to the wallet so there's an answer for this marketplace that people can use without console commands. Better stock up on coffee!

LoL - I had the same thought last night. I was going to write it in C# or something and open source it.

I'll race you! I still need to install VS though, so hopefully I can start tonight.

I got 100,00 SYS on it for the winner if you guys do race

ill add 50,000 to this ever increasing bounty

Put me down for another 50k sys to the winner

[kamronk]

Or perhaps they would consider collaborating on it together and splitting the bounty. I'll throw in 25k SYS minimum, whether they race or tag-team it.

Again, they need a working product that end users will not have to read a page of instructions to enter text into the console to put an item up, as previously explained that much is trivial on the programming side of it, they should be at the part of beefing up security of that aspect by now and building websites around it is a moot point without the GUI in the wallet.  This is a prerequisite to people buying into it, without that, it is not ready for market as it is not a viable product.

I think tonight I'm gonna write a win32 app that talks to the wallet so there's an answer for this marketplace that people can use without console commands. Better stock up on coffee!

LoL - I had the same thought last night. I was going to write it in C# or something and open source it.

I'll race you! I still need to install VS though, so hopefully I can start tonight.

I got 100,00 SYS on it for the winner if you guys do race

ill add 50,000 to this ever increasing bounty

Put me down for another 50k sys to the winner

This is now 200k SYS for the coder who gets a usable UI for the marketplace via a desktop application.

[sphericon]

imo the biggest issue this coin has is marketing. Read from bytecent:

Lack of marketing and PR has become the leading cause of legitimate projects to fail. Little to no focus is spent on attracting new users outside of the crypto community, and virtually no effort is made to educate consumers on the numerous benefits of cryptocurrencies. There are over 7.1 billion people living on the planet, and less than 2 million people actively use cryptocurrencies.

The Bytecent project will revolutionize the way cryptocurrencies are marketed and promoted while changing the general perception that cryptocurrencies are "nerd money."  We will make use of both old and new media to educate consumers on why Bytecent is a better option to traditional payment methods.

Press Releases

Press releases will be a vital tool in disseminating frequent information about the Bytecent project.  The press releases will focus on specific content to assist contributors, consumers, and other target groups in learning more about what Bytecent has to offer. At least two press releases will be issued each month to maintain our relevancy in the market.

Print Advertising

Print advertising is still one of the most effective ways to get information out about a product or service, and we plan to use print advertising to our advantage. Placing ads in technology and financial related magazines will allow us to educated new users while appealing to users already familiar with cryptocurrencies. The use of QR codes along with other interactive features in print advertisements will open up new channels and help bridge the gap between our offline and online presence.

Radio Advertising

Radio advertising has significant advantages over TV ad spots. Radio ads are typically cheaper than TV advertising, and Radio ads can be targeted to a narrow audience and reach people within that audience wherever they go.

Radio advertising will provide us with the opportunity to introduce Bytecent to millions of people while keeping our advertising costs down.

Webinars & Offline Workshops

The biggest hurdle with any cryptocurrency is educating consumers and merchants on the benefits of using a cryptocurrency. Advertising alone will not be enough to change the way people have been buying goods and services for decades.

We will conduct monthly webinars and offline workshops to teach consumers about Bytecent and why it is a better option compared to fiat and credit cards. We will also spotlight all the advantages of accepting Bytecent as a merchant.

[RJF]

I come in here and see a lot of crying. If you want to make the price go up start buying and stop all this pointless crying about ico and Ryan Kennedy and rebrand and relaunch bs. Devs are working. Volume is up. Trade the gaps or just sit on it. Either way at the current price there isn't much to lose and a lot to gain when the push up starts.

+1 At least someone understands "long term"...