[ANN][UPDATE][NEOS]Neos v2.1- Blowfish, 2FA, Theft Recovery, Decoy System

[joetothphoto]

Agreed. I think the odds betting is tricky as the odds would need to be inline with what is being offered in the market. And who would be the house? And you are right, there would need to be a cap for betting as wel as a reserve pool to pay out winners.

As for the NFL pool. This one is easy to do, as you pay your entry fee and pick winners. Winner takes pot. No odds involved, so there is no chance of having to pay more than what was put in the pot.

As for other markets, european... yes the same could apply - doing a pool of games, picking winners and having a pot for the winner.

I think proper betting with odds is a bit more involved as there are so many aspects you can bet on in one game.

I posted on Twitter regarding sports betting...

I would be interested in this if it were feasible. There would need to be a house that could cover winnings and provide proper odds for a variety of markets. I'll look to see if anyone mainstream is doing this with other coins.

I know there is a Super Bowl pool going with another coin. But that isn't odd based. It's just picking a team and placing money on them to win the Super Bowl. Which might be one thing to do with Neoscoin as well.

Joe

https://www.anonibet.com/default.aspx

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/current-affairs/bitcoin-betting

Paddy Power is a large bookie here in the UK. Right now, they have no events to bet on in Bitcoin. So I am unsure of how they handle it. But there seems to be plenty of sites that take Bitcoin as a payment method. I can't imagine it being too difficult to do something similar.

One idea... not really sports betting with odds. But my Dad used to have this football pool at work. You'd pay $2 and pick winners from all the weekends game, and then Monday night would be used as a tiebreaker. So you'd have a pot of $50, winner take all. That might be easier to monitor without worry about odds.

Joe

i think all this would work but it would def have to be with odds and the same odds that are on real bookie sites... if we had neos as the bookie/house the odds are that the house always wins... so if we had this platform and any other coin can be used to bet on a game neos can bring in a nice profit, that can be held in escrow for future larger projects or tons of other things ... but remember this is gambling so the house can take a hit so there would have to be a cap limit... also the house would have to start up with a lot of neoscoins in case we have to pay out to winners right off the bat...

this is just talk of maybe something that can be interesting for future side projects... don't think it should be focused on , should be something well discussed and thought out and not require too much of twoturtles time (cause his time is our gold)

this is mostly a project that should be mostly done by the community if they want it and of course two turtles help

edit* also before we even discuss all this loll we got to see if its even legal

[Mrboot]

I posted on Twitter regarding sports betting...

I would be interested in this if it were feasible. There would need to be a house that could cover winnings and provide proper odds for a variety of markets. I'll look to see if anyone mainstream is doing this with other coins.

I know there is a Super Bowl pool going with another coin. But that isn't odd based. It's just picking a team and placing money on them to win the Super Bowl. Which might be one thing to do with Neoscoin as well.

Joe

https://www.anonibet.com/default.aspx

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/current-affairs/bitcoin-betting

Paddy Power is a large bookie here in the UK. Right now, they have no events to bet on in Bitcoin. So I am unsure of how they handle it. But there seems to be plenty of sites that take Bitcoin as a payment method. I can't imagine it being too difficult to do something similar.

One idea... not really sports betting with odds. But my Dad used to have this football pool at work. You'd pay $2 and pick winners from all the weekends game, and then Monday night would be used as a tiebreaker. So you'd have a pot of $50, winner take all. That might be easier to monitor without worry about odds.

Joe

i think all this would work but it would def have to be with odds and the same odds that are on real bookie sites... if we had neos as the bookie/house the odds are that the house always wins... so if we had this platform and any other coin can be used to bet on a game neos can bring in a nice profit, that can be held in escrow for future larger projects or tons of other things ... but remember this is gambling so the house can take a hit so there would have to be a cap limit... also the house would have to start up with a lot of neoscoins in case we have to pay out to winners right off the bat...

this is just talk of maybe something that can be interesting for future side projects... don't think it should be focused on , should be something well discussed and thought out and not require too much of twoturtles time (cause his time is our gold)

this is mostly a project that should be mostly done by the community if they want it and of course two turtles help

edit* also before we even discuss all this loll we got to see if its even legal

You guys forgot to tell about the lottery should make that aswell with always a winner

[joetothphoto]

The list in endless. Lottery and so on. I think any sort of chance game where people can bet and possibly win will always be a winner.

[Mrboot]

Agreed. I think the odds betting is tricky as the odds would need to be inline with what is being offered in the market. And who would be the house? And you are right, there would need to be a cap for betting as wel as a reserve pool to pay out winners.

As for the NFL pool. This one is easy to do, as you pay your entry fee and pick winners. Winner takes pot. No odds involved, so there is no chance of having to pay more than what was put in the pot.

As for other markets, european... yes the same could apply - doing a pool of games, picking winners and having a pot for the winner.

I think proper betting with odds is a bit more involved as there are so many aspects you can bet on in one game.

I posted on Twitter regarding sports betting...

I would be interested in this if it were feasible. There would need to be a house that could cover winnings and provide proper odds for a variety of markets. I'll look to see if anyone mainstream is doing this with other coins.

I know there is a Super Bowl pool going with another coin. But that isn't odd based. It's just picking a team and placing money on them to win the Super Bowl. Which might be one thing to do with Neoscoin as well.

Joe

https://www.anonibet.com/default.aspx

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/current-affairs/bitcoin-betting

Paddy Power is a large bookie here in the UK. Right now, they have no events to bet on in Bitcoin. So I am unsure of how they handle it. But there seems to be plenty of sites that take Bitcoin as a payment method. I can't imagine it being too difficult to do something similar.

One idea... not really sports betting with odds. But my Dad used to have this football pool at work. You'd pay $2 and pick winners from all the weekends game, and then Monday night would be used as a tiebreaker. So you'd have a pot of $50, winner take all. That might be easier to monitor without worry about odds.

Joe

i think all this would work but it would def have to be with odds and the same odds that are on real bookie sites... if we had neos as the bookie/house the odds are that the house always wins... so if we had this platform and any other coin can be used to bet on a game neos can bring in a nice profit, that can be held in escrow for future larger projects or tons of other things ... but remember this is gambling so the house can take a hit so there would have to be a cap limit... also the house would have to start up with a lot of neoscoins in case we have to pay out to winners right off the bat...

this is just talk of maybe something that can be interesting for future side projects... don't think it should be focused on , should be something well discussed and thought out and not require too much of twoturtles time (cause his time is our gold)

this is mostly a project that should be mostly done by the community if they want it and of course two turtles help

edit* also before we even discuss all this loll we got to see if its even legal

Football will be a pain cause you need to figure out the odds really carefully cause a lot teams are just domonating this competitions. but its def possible , cause many websites are already putting on the odds of games way before the matches.
also a small betting fee. can make the hits on the House a lot lower. I Think it aint a bad idea at all.

Just the regulations are i think a pain , someone lives in malta

[joetothphoto]

Are you talking NFL or 'Football'? Yes odds on football or any sport is tricky.

The NFL pool is very straightforward...

Lets say the pool has a buy in of 25 Neos

The week 1 NFL games are 

Week 1

Packers v. Seahawks
Saints v. Falcons
Vikings v. rams
Browns v. Steelers
Jags v. Eagles
Raiders v. Jets
Bengals v. Ravens
Bills v. Bears
Redskins v. Texans
Titans v. Chiefs
Patriots v. Dolphins
Panthers v. Bucs
49ers v. Cowboys
Colts v. Broncos

MNF
Giants v. Lions
Chargers v. Cardinals

Lets say 50 people did the pool - you'd have a pot of 1250 neos. Everyone would pick winners for all the games and for MNF you'd pick a winner and points. Points would be a tie breaker. No odds needed. It's just pool betting. I'm not really sure if there is a way to cheat this type of pool. But seeing as it would be fun, not sure if anyone would want to ruin it.

Agreed. I think the odds betting is tricky as the odds would need to be inline with what is being offered in the market. And who would be the house? And you are right, there would need to be a cap for betting as wel as a reserve pool to pay out winners.

As for the NFL pool. This one is easy to do, as you pay your entry fee and pick winners. Winner takes pot. No odds involved, so there is no chance of having to pay more than what was put in the pot.

As for other markets, european... yes the same could apply - doing a pool of games, picking winners and having a pot for the winner.

I think proper betting with odds is a bit more involved as there are so many aspects you can bet on in one game.

I posted on Twitter regarding sports betting...

I would be interested in this if it were feasible. There would need to be a house that could cover winnings and provide proper odds for a variety of markets. I'll look to see if anyone mainstream is doing this with other coins.

I know there is a Super Bowl pool going with another coin. But that isn't odd based. It's just picking a team and placing money on them to win the Super Bowl. Which might be one thing to do with Neoscoin as well.

Joe

https://www.anonibet.com/default.aspx

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/current-affairs/bitcoin-betting

Paddy Power is a large bookie here in the UK. Right now, they have no events to bet on in Bitcoin. So I am unsure of how they handle it. But there seems to be plenty of sites that take Bitcoin as a payment method. I can't imagine it being too difficult to do something similar.

One idea... not really sports betting with odds. But my Dad used to have this football pool at work. You'd pay $2 and pick winners from all the weekends game, and then Monday night would be used as a tiebreaker. So you'd have a pot of $50, winner take all. That might be easier to monitor without worry about odds.

Joe

i think all this would work but it would def have to be with odds and the same odds that are on real bookie sites... if we had neos as the bookie/house the odds are that the house always wins... so if we had this platform and any other coin can be used to bet on a game neos can bring in a nice profit, that can be held in escrow for future larger projects or tons of other things ... but remember this is gambling so the house can take a hit so there would have to be a cap limit... also the house would have to start up with a lot of neoscoins in case we have to pay out to winners right off the bat...

this is just talk of maybe something that can be interesting for future side projects... don't think it should be focused on , should be something well discussed and thought out and not require too much of twoturtles time (cause his time is our gold)

this is mostly a project that should be mostly done by the community if they want it and of course two turtles help

edit* also before we even discuss all this loll we got to see if its even legal

Football will be a pain cause you need to figure out the odds really carefully cause a lot teams are just domonating this competitions. but its def possible , cause many websites are already putting on the odds of games way before the matches.
also a small betting fee. can make the hits on the House a lot lower. I Think it aint a bad idea at all.

Just the regulations are i think a pain , someone lives in malta

[twoturtles]

The issue with hosting it ourselves is licensing.  Big, big hurdle there.  However, I'm sure can come up with some in-house "interesting" games of chance.  I'll be thinking on it and update everyone.  Until then, we'll be on the lookout for any potential opportunities to either be accepted in an online casino or purchase the software ourselves.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[joetothphoto]

Good point. I suppose when it's done in the work place it's done very low-key. Putting it online crosses that licensing line. What if you went down the Nintendo Tecmo Bowl route and dropped names, and just used dallas v. San Francisco or is that grey area too?

[twoturtles]

Good point. I suppose when it's done in the work place it's done very low-key. Putting it online crosses that licensing line. What if you went down the Nintendo Tecmo Bowl route and dropped names, and just used dallas v. San Francisco or is that grey area too?

If it was in big enough demand I'm sure we could retain the appropriate lawyer and figure out all of the details, but for gaming licenses, even online with cryptos I'm sure it's all gray.  I typed that and as I'm doing so thought to myself, if I'm betting Neos for Neos, I don't see why it'd be an issue.  With that being said, we're going to have some real fun in the near future. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

[RedZeppelin]

I have dozens of different cannabis strains i would like to offer on the market place, Joint Doctor, FemaleSeeds, Greenhouse Seeds and a few other seedbanks products + my own strains.
I buy those in bulk from a contact in Holland and the resell them locally on f:ex forums for growers and so on.

[provenceday]

Good point. I suppose when it's done in the work place it's done very low-key. Putting it online crosses that licensing line. What if you went down the Nintendo Tecmo Bowl route and dropped names, and just used dallas v. San Francisco or is that grey area too?

If it was in big enough demand I'm sure we could retain the appropriate lawyer and figure out all of the details, but for gaming licenses, even online with cryptos I'm sure it's all gray.  I typed that and as I'm doing so thought to myself, if I'm betting Neos for Neos, I don't see why it'd be an issue.  With that being said, we're going to have some real fun in the near future. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks for the update, that's really awesome!!!

[ereborltc]

Good point. I suppose when it's done in the work place it's done very low-key. Putting it online crosses that licensing line. What if you went down the Nintendo Tecmo Bowl route and dropped names, and just used dallas v. San Francisco or is that grey area too?

If it was in big enough demand I'm sure we could retain the appropriate lawyer and figure out all of the details, but for gaming licenses, even online with cryptos I'm sure it's all gray.  I typed that and as I'm doing so thought to myself, if I'm betting Neos for Neos, I don't see why it'd be an issue.  With that being said, we're going to have some real fun in the near future. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

im liking these side thoughts

[belibeli]

Good point. I suppose when it's done in the work place it's done very low-key. Putting it online crosses that licensing line. What if you went down the Nintendo Tecmo Bowl route and dropped names, and just used dallas v. San Francisco or is that grey area too?

If it was in big enough demand I'm sure we could retain the appropriate lawyer and figure out all of the details, but for gaming licenses, even online with cryptos I'm sure it's all gray.  I typed that and as I'm doing so thought to myself, if I'm betting Neos for Neos, I don't see why it'd be an issue.  With that being said, we're going to have some real fun in the near future. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks for the update, that's really awesome!!!

In case you did not know, Minerals coin had an interesting and mostly working betting service based on e-sports, particularly on Star Craft 2. They made their own website with a betting platform that streamed live Starcraft games from twitch.tv. I was a big supporter but then the whole project was left to die because the developers couldn’t find a way to implement anon (what the masses desired for the price of Minerals to be competitive). It’s a good thing we can learn from other’s failure and that Neos already realized anon. Good things are sure to come!

[joetothphoto]

Time for my daily stupid question. I started mining, which is working fine. But I am curious about my wallet. I sent a small amount from Bittrex to my Wallet and nothing has turned up yet. My wallet is locked. Does it need to be unlocked to receive payments?

[studio1one]

Time for my daily stupid question. I started mining, which is working fine. But I am curious about my wallet. I sent a small amount from Bittrex to my Wallet and nothing has turned up yet. My wallet is locked. Does it need to be unlocked to receive payments?

nope, you can receive coins with  a locked wallet

[ereborltc]

Good point. I suppose when it's done in the work place it's done very low-key. Putting it online crosses that licensing line. What if you went down the Nintendo Tecmo Bowl route and dropped names, and just used dallas v. San Francisco or is that grey area too?

If it was in big enough demand I'm sure we could retain the appropriate lawyer and figure out all of the details, but for gaming licenses, even online with cryptos I'm sure it's all gray.  I typed that and as I'm doing so thought to myself, if I'm betting Neos for Neos, I don't see why it'd be an issue.  With that being said, we're going to have some real fun in the near future. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks for the update, that's really awesome!!!

In case you did not know, Minerals coin had an interesting and mostly working betting service based on e-sports, particularly on Star Craft 2. They made their own website with a betting platform that streamed live Starcraft games from twitch.tv. I was a big supporter but then the whole project was left to die because the developers couldn’t find a way to implement anon (what the masses desired for the price of Minerals to be competitive). It’s a good thing we can learn from other’s failure and that Neos already realized anon. Good things are sure to come!

your 100% right and i was a minerals supporter as well i liked their idea of tapping into the video game and gambling market... but neos is not a betting or gambling or gaming coin lets make that clear .... but of course why not be able to use it for a ton of things like games, etc... the more things we can use neos for the better , and i do love me some poker;)

[joetothphoto]

That's what I thought. It just seems the transfer from Bittrex to the wallet is taking a long time. Thanks

[studio1one]

That's what I thought. It just seems the transfer from Bittrex to the wallet is taking a long time. Thanks

is there a block explorer?

you could check the TX ID on that if there is.

also, as an aside for some reason I read your username as joe the potato

[Altcoin4life]

That's what I thought. It just seems the transfer from Bittrex to the wallet is taking a long time. Thanks

is there a block explorer?

you could check the TX ID on that if there is.

also, as an aside for some reason I read your username as joe the potato

Lmao I always read his name as the potato too sorry Joe!

Here is the block explorer http://explorer.neoscoin.com/chain/NeosCoin

Syntaks, can you update the op with this BE link as the old one isn't working.

[joetothphoto]

That's what I thought. It just seems the transfer from Bittrex to the wallet is taking a long time. Thanks

is there a block explorer?

you could check the TX ID on that if there is.

also, as an aside for some reason I read your username as joe the potato

It's all sorted now. For some reason the first one took ages, the next one I did went much quicker. Should be no issue when the coin comes in from mining.

Joe the Potato is my Mafia name... along with my cousins Jimmy Two-Toes and Vinny the Samosa

[stacey2911]

Small buy and sell walls popped up at 28100 sats and 28102 sats. Someone doesn't want the price to move