[ANN] SuperNET NXT asset 12071612744977229797, SUPERNET KMD assetchain in summer

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

correct.

and there are many more features then I listed as well.

Plus some of the features are revenue sharing with supernet, so when you  use them through supernet wallet, unity holders gain revenue.

[Cassius]

a unique feature of supernet requires that unique feature to work,


But your question specifically i read as "do the unique features need only mgw or coinomat to work" no, unique features are independent of supernets other features


Coinomat is a unique feature, so you select coinomat if you wish to use it

mgw is a unique feature, so you select mgw if you wish to use it

Pangea poker is a unique feature, so you select pangea poker if you wish to use it

Opal drive is a unique feature, so you select opal drive if you wish to use it

Instantdex is a unique feature, so you select instantdex if you wish to use it

NeoDice is a unique feature, so you select neodice if you wish to use it

Etc

Why do you ask? Don't you want to use exchanges?

I see.  So I can use Pangea Poker, Opal Drive, InstantDEX, or NeoDice without using either Coinomat or MGW?

[bitcoinrocks]

Why do you ask? Don't you want to use exchanges?

Not sure what you mean here.

[Cassius]

Why do you ask? Don't you want to use exchanges?

Not sure what you mean here.

Given that it's all integrated, I'm not sure why you're asking. What's the downside?

[bitcoinrocks]

Why do you ask? Don't you want to use exchanges?

Not sure what you mean here.

Given that it's all integrated, I'm not sure why you're asking. What's the downside?

I'm wondering if SuperNET can be used without a centralized/distributed service like Coinomat or MGW.

[Cassius]

Well, yes it can. SuperNET is many things, so each element can be used depending on what you're looking for. I'm still not sure why you're asking though - what's the downside to using MGW, which is already integrated into the client and requires no extra effort?

[Cassius]

We're looking to give BTCD some more attention with this Nxt asset: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.msg11375150#msg11375150

The asset will pay out in mgwBTCD. The idea is to add liquidity to BTCD across exchanges and create constant gentle buy pressure.
Please read the thread before investing. The asset id is 8122396658538927693.

[sasha35625]

Why do you ask? Don't you want to use exchanges?

Not sure what you mean here.

Given that it's all integrated, I'm not sure why you're asking. What's the downside?

I'm wondering if SuperNET can be used without a centralized/distributed service like Coinomat or MGW.

Potentially SuperNET is completely decentralized, but it sure takes time

[bitcoinrocks]

Well, yes it can. SuperNET is many things, so each element can be used depending on what you're looking for. I'm still not sure why you're asking though - what's the downside to using MGW, which is already integrated into the client and requires no extra effort?

The downside is it is not decentralized.  It's controlled by 3 parties.

[bitcoinrocks]

Why do you ask? Don't you want to use exchanges?

Not sure what you mean here.

Given that it's all integrated, I'm not sure why you're asking. What's the downside?

I'm wondering if SuperNET can be used without a centralized/distributed service like Coinomat or MGW.

Potentially SuperNET is completely decentralized, but it sure takes time

I'm pretty much trying to figure out if that's true or not (and having a hard time doing it).  I do know this: Any features of SuperNET that can't be used without Coinomat or MGW are not decentralized.

[PondSea]

There is no decentralized solution that i am aware of.

The best thing right now is a distributed system like MGW. This is a stepping stone to decentralization.

[Cassius]

MMBTCD all sold out. Update here: https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/btcd-mutual-fund-and-market-making-asset-mmbtcd/
We're taking a mutual fund as well as market-maker approach, because BTCD is so thinly traded. Hopefully using revenues from other assets will inject some liquidity and give us something to work with.

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

Visual diagram of SuperNet!!



jl777 - james lee (sprnt)BOT 1:21 PM
SuperNET itself is a plugin that other plugins plug into


jl777 - james lee (sprnt)BOT 2:12 PM
any feature you can think of, will be a plugin
remember, SuperNET itself is a BTCD plugin

[_mr_e]

James (jl777) BitcoinDark Development Update (cross-post):

I pushed a test release
it supports sending commands to the decentralized load balancer

./BitcoinDarkd SuperNET '{"plugin":"ramchain","method":"ledgerhash","coin":"BTCD","broadcast":"allpeers"}'
./BitcoinDarkd SuperNET '{"plugin":"ramchain","method":"addrind","coin":"BTCD","broadcast":"allpeers","addr":"RM5NNYdGee6X65aFGkyaRkYocSxQVNsB8d"}'

the calling method is different
if you leave off the "broadcast":"allpeers", it just queries the local node
but what this means that even if you have no local ramchain, you can get ramchain info from all the nodes that do
{
   "userdir":"/home/username",
   "secret":"randvals","myipaddr":"youripaddr"
}

I simplified the SuperNET.conf a bit

the minimum SuperNET.conf file is above

using "secret":"randvals" generates randvals files and these contain your key, so keep them safe!

you can also just directly put the passphrase instead of "randvals"

i have other options for passphrase management, but for now, lets keep that part simple

after cloning a fresh copy from my repo (it is used for tests though so make sure to checkout a stable copy)

https://github.com/jl777/btcd/commit/a8c5809efee830102b9d5371b6b63bbbdb8de173 appears to be stable

cd into the libjl777 directory and do:

make onetime

make SuperNET; make btcd

There are very few dependencies for SuperNET: make clang-3.5 autoconf  libtool libcurl4-gnutls-dev unzip autogen
so apt-get install those if you dont have them

to bootstrap a system from scratch for full btcd build just do:
make dependencies

then if the make of btcd or SuperNET failed, it should work. make a SuperNET.conf with the three required fields in the libjl777 directory

now you can launch ./BitcoinDarkd

current methods (changing all the time) for ramchain plugin is:
#define PUB_METHODS "ledgerhash", "richlist", "txid", "txidind", "addr", "addrind", "script", "scriptind", "balance", "unspents", "notify"
char *PLUGNAME(_methods)[] = { PUB_METHODS, "create", "backup", "pause", "resume", "stop" }; // list of supported methods
mostly self explanatory. to create a ramchain:
./BitcoinDarkd SuperNET '{"plugin":"ramchain","method":"create","coin":"BTCD"}'
to pause it:
./BitcoinDarkd SuperNET '{"plugin":"ramchain","method":"pause","coin":"BTCD"}'
you can generate to a specific block by setting "end":350000
./BitcoinDarkd SuperNET '{"plugin":"ramchain","method":"richlist","coin":"BTCD"}'
returns:
return.({"supply":1218020.71387317,"richlist":[["RBF9tS45eKBab2L4ZYdQEzMVnp5vtHUuqC", "40000.00000000"], ["RGgbJiV2Hs8eWJbZmZ3hZLS8sSzFA7tYNu", "38773.29296875"], ["RA7FDvaNFXZNLqosSbCWFbypuvijJNQw5J", "37702.49609375"], ["RQ5zLFGwZGhTKbANAbCHaAP1ghZWnv6wKE", "32116.67578125"], ["RT9obeyoapYL1kzZdrBKTtJvasTJoDTiwA", "28311.67968750"], ["RMo9emPiNDd1kvn9jpDBEvLavPxb9rdyNk", "18650.31250000"], ["R9pEPKTktBGmG9ggi2TGn4USjVXPzQ5Tm1", "18210.96679688"], ["RMtkykzKuKiP4PNjgqKH6FrcSJm4Y6eA8n", "17148.80859375"], ["RWcg6XBmisrbkMYvzV9u7j1HvgMg4LuUYC", "16779.16796875"], ["RWAxa88tQXVDY64Bwz6DP2ZppsFotibaYh", "15620.54687500"], ["RQif3cnnrWjP2zzrhum24FjgwS4wBzBfts", "15618.84863281"], ["RJ94yrqKCP3XjFsAsNj9WXS5SLpyHUpx5n", "15617.99511719"], ["RBCLnsjCVHWRyUpfgauyzUu8iP6X5CabJT", "15587.90722656"], ["RGaV5Qxi2PdtMpe8GR9MpQ9JogDz5oaZbK", "15147.80078125"], ["RJPGpRQ4nudwzw6mjWCUb6cq7aWP4to6pM", "14820.11523438"], ["RDnHMnK8tgm9WmY9u3EoRLww9FyFBannCa", "14590.96875000"], ["RWc6VDt5SdjnWXoVQ2AJsuxU2QSaDcG5R7", "14576.76953125"], ["RWUTuApNQuuSustN4DBt6PxxVRwZhh52An", "14405.32910156"], ["R9g77ds8kFS58V24s9Wodt8quMB8NSp3FC", "13069.25292969"], ["RXcEPd6zV1hHAVZzfe2d8Ccv3MzHMZEZ49", "12795.74023438"], ["RUZ9AKxy6J2okcBd1PZm4YH6atmPwqV4bo", "12693.13964844"], ["RDvdbqJLu8GgLL1TvdADNeCbbjXRmHBjog", "11563.78906250"], ["RR1svWTDxD6bjtkXDzq4vhB6PWPETPNU42", "11430.56445312"], ["RYNE2isKrRu5b7xxm1DtXcLxdmBEKatuJY", "11337.11425781"], ["RV5eKvybKDNctYxXiNYV766PzCakiUNRRm", "11308.52539062"],]})

it has extra comma so doesnt parse, so there are still bugs, but I dont have the time to find all the bugs myself
or if I have to, it necessarily delays the completion.

I am not so worried about exact completion date, but if you are then you can help by testing

if you can construct JSON command lines like above, you can test!

if you can make an HTML front end to make it easy for others to test, then there will be a bounty for that

I think the wallet should have a debug mode where you can issue such API calls.

notice that with "broadcastflag":"allpeers" the request is sent to the relays, which then randomly selects one of them to act as a coordinator for that request
it then relays your request to all the peers and the ones that are able to (or want to) respond will send the result back to the coordinator
who then collates it into a single request and sends it back to your node
it flows back through and appears magically on the command line
so with a single BitcoinDarkd RPC call you trigger an entire chain of events, which just happens to make establishing a peer based consensus much easier as you now have data from all the peers to compare

*****

for people that dont care much about making API calls to ramchains (I know there are people such as this), there is a reason for you to care about all this

ramchains is implemented as a plugin and it is publishing which methods it can execute locally or for public access

replace "ramchains" with "anything" and then all nodes can access via relays all the nodes that are supporting the "anything" plugin and the plugin can literally be for anything!

SuperNET itself is implemented as a plugin that connects into BTCD

then all the other plugins connect to SuperNET

you can publish methods that require authentication, but I am still working out the details on this, so there will be at least three levels of methods, for each plugin by setting "iamrelay":1 to your SuperNET.conf, it tells the other relays that you are a relay too, and so this makes it fully decentralized

I have not beefed up the security or privacy yet, so just for testing now

in addition to having public methods accessible via the decentralized load balancer, you can also offer subscriptions to a data stream

this can be things like notifications of any changes to an address (or set of addresses) or anything that can be turned into data

which is quite a few things

I havent implemented a billing/accounting system yet, but I dont see any big hurdles for that. current ideas are for publishers to set prices and subscribers to pay for them, with the system managing the payment process. maybe I will setup auction pages within InstantDEX, not sure the details

currently there are the following plugins: SuperNET, echodemo, coins, relay, peers, ramchain, db777, subscriptions, MGW in various stages of completeness
the SuperNET plugin has just a couple of methods, "install" and "plugin"

"install" installs a new plugin (which can theoretically be in any of a dozen languages) that is a standalone program
and "plugin", which just routes a request to the named plugin

"echodemo" demonstrates a minimal plugin in echodemo.c (85 lines of C) with "echo" method, that echos what is sent to it
"coins" interfaces to coin daemons, any gen1 coin is supported and if it is added to the source code you dont even have to configure it in SuperNET.conf, but if it isnt, you can add support for it via the "coins":[:"name":"COIN",...} array

to add support for a new coin:
char *coindirs[][3] = { {"BTC",".bitcoin"}, {"BTCD",".BitcoinDark"}, {"LTC",".litecoin"}, {"VRC",".vericoin"}, {"VPN",".vpncoin"} };

just one little array needs to be added to and this means via the coins array you can communicate to any other coin daemon, but I have not had a chance to add many methods to the coins plugin as I am concentrating on MGW support

you know about ramchain's current methods

db777 is the database engine based on sophia http://sphia.org/v12.html
relays deals with the decentralized load balancer and it automatically reconfigures the network topology as more relays are added. it also supports direct connections so you can connect directly to a specific relay
char *PLUGNAME(_methods)[] = { "list", "add", "direct", "join", "busdata", "devMGW" }; // list of supported methods for relay

it seems the peers plugin deals with the "direct" connection: char *PLUGNAME(_methods)[] = { "direct", "devMGW" };

I am about to debug that next

subscriptions plugin will manage subscriptions (including payments), but this is for a bit later

after MGW plugin is completed I will make an InstantDEX plugin

It confuses me greatly that many people are complaining about lack of progress...

how many of them have created a decentralized system for adding new services? actually has anybody else created anything like this?

somebody please make a copy of all this so it is not lost, thanks

[tyz]

@_mr_e: can you please format the above post please. It's really hard to read it.

[_mr_e]

@_mr_e: can you please format the above post please. It's really hard to read it.

Done what I can, I'm no formatting master. this is just a dump from slack.

[apenzl]

Ah, bct is back. 

SuperNET Newsletter #17

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[BTCDDev]

Hi all,

I have taken a short break from porting SuperNET to Windows and working with James to develop Ramchains to add a mechanism into BitcoinDark to help automate the dividend process.

We have promised 5% of the revenues of various services will go directly to BitcoinDark stakers, including, but not limited to, InstantDEX (5%), SuperNET (5%), and potentially other assets which are in the pipeline.

MM-BTCD will also be paying dividends directly to BTCD stakers.

Direct dividends to stakers will be done over certain intervals. This means that your percentage of the total dividend is dependent on the number of blocks you stake, not how much BTCD you stake. This has the effect of incentivising constant staking, thus helping to secure the network.

How does it work?

I added a new RPC call to BitcoinDark, getstakers. This command returns a string of all the addresses which staked blocks between two given intervals. You can access it from the debug console in BitcoinDark-qt.

Example:

Code:

getstakers 100000 100005
{
"Addresses:" : "'{\"RFzJFDXULPvy7y6xfChUUorieYnr2c81HX\"\", \"RDGi3CKdYC7h3cqXFTyd2xPkTVkwza83aw\"\", \"RWE5VQQ6oDKGyXJxWh3FPQ7RFJFiZWDjYN\"\", \"RQKB86ur6gA7xpJW3Eh12az5EJp8WWe3vx\"\", \"RNVdKEDirp4REpMQ1hJGPxKJhfFfDeWzn7\"\", \"RSn23Tv5mR3Y23a9KsW7JHHJCte2exux2H\"\"}'"
}

These addresses staked blocks 100,000, 100,001, 100,002, 100,003, 100,004, and 100,005, respectively.

What about the dividends though?

Say InstantDEX is up and running and has made 1000BTC. It wants to pay out its 5% share (50BTC) for the month to BitcoinDark stakers. It first calculates the block interval which represents that month. Just to keep things short I'll only make the interval a few blocks long:

Code:

getstakers 500000 500005 50

{
"Addresses:" : "'{\"RCs9Sqe99sRDD3yKCfY39VvShamcGXXSRD\"\": 8.33333, \"RX8ziTPuKqfxJemHdrFcCEpJKpbDFgXwNn\"\": 8.33333, \"RTopxEU3vZsu81KdRUdMfP2QR31kbwCGeP\"\": 8.33333, \"RRYbXEkZokCns4EQfpTB6DnEyMF98cVFVQ\"\": 8.33333, \"RYEZ1VdiFxLthKKLZzU5iDHNfgX4EiCVNc\"\": 8.33333, \"RLM1DaCS9kJ9e7EcyHHXiuw9DsgdEFxU12\"\": 8.33333}'"
}

You simply pass the total amount to be paid out and it automatically calculates how much each address should get.

It also puts it in a form for another, standard, RPC call, sendmany:

Code:

sendmany "" '{"RCs9Sqe99sRDD3yKCfY39VvShamcGXXSRD": 8.33333, "RX8ziTPuKqfxJemHdrFcCEpJKpbDFgXwNn": 8.33333, "RTopxEU3vZsu81KdRUdMfP2QR31kbwCGeP": 8.33333, "RRYbXEkZokCns4EQfpTB6DnEyMF98cVFVQ": 8.33333, "RYEZ1VdiFxLthKKLZzU5iDHNfgX4EiCVNc": 8.33333, "RLM1DaCS9kJ9e7EcyHHXiuw9DsgdEFxU12": 8.33333}'

Run the above command and the dividend will be sent out to all stakers for the appropriate time interval.

That's it!

I have updated the vanilla BTCD repo (https://github.com/laowais/bitcoindark) with this functionality, so you may build it yourself or download the binary here:

https://mega.co.nz/#!sss3kRTJ!IdofVJVllG0jzNIFa3cHdC6hUArM3A7lGg4NHhZkuec

SHA-1 Hash: 069320d2688d8a5e8a8c899ac9e2063ca4ef703a

I expect this link will replace the OP link soon.

We are making really great progress with this project. Ramchains are performing really well, as is InstantDEX, and I am close to porting the updated plugin-based SuperNET to Windows. Once this first batch of tech. makes it through testing, release, etc. we will resume work on teleport and all the other great features for which you are waiting so patiently. Believe me, I am just as excited as you are!
 
If you haven't joined slack, please do! We have hundreds of people there and we lost 0 time due to BitcoinTalk troubles.

SuperNET is now a plug-in of BitcoinDark.

Matthew

[m30188]

Visual diagram of SuperNet!!

http://s15.postimg.org/w52hit43f/image_15010.jpg

jl777 - james lee (sprnt)BOT 1:21 PM
SuperNET itself is a plugin that other plugins plug into


jl777 - james lee (sprnt)BOT 2:12 PM
any feature you can think of, will be a plugin
remember, SuperNET itself is a BTCD plugin

When you realize how much time, effort, and money you've waisted.
http://i62.tinypic.com/6qdwch.jpg

[tyz]

Helps to understand how SuperNET works.
So it means SuperNET is something like a "middleware" between BTCD and custom plugins?
What is NXT then? A plugin, too?

Visual diagram of SuperNet!!



jl777 - james lee (sprnt)BOT 1:21 PM
SuperNET itself is a plugin that other plugins plug into


jl777 - james lee (sprnt)BOT 2:12 PM
any feature you can think of, will be a plugin
remember, SuperNET itself is a BTCD plugin