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February 25, 2015, 12:23:28 AM |
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Today is February 24th 2015, my order placed on November 25th 2013 remains unfulfilled and they're keeping my money. |
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ElGrandJefe
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February 25, 2015, 07:53:03 AM |
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Today is February 24th 2015, my order placed on November 25th 2013 remains unfulfilled and they're keeping my money. That's because you complained. They've publicly stated that people who complain publicly will a) get their orders last and b) not get any compensation. They've also berated their customers in general for complaining so much about the delays, even going so far as claiming it's actually a reason for the delays, because their sensitive flower engineers get so upset reading the criticism that they have to get out their clutching pearls and fainting couches. They're not just dishonest, scamming thieves - they're petty dishonest scamming thieves. |
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notbatman
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February 25, 2015, 08:18:27 AM |
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Today is February 24th 2015, my order placed on November 25th 2013 remains unfulfilled and they're keeping my money. That's because you complained. They've publicly stated that people who complain publicly will a) get their orders last and b) not get any compensation. They've also berated their customers in general for complaining so much about the delays, even going so far as claiming it's actually a reason for the delays, because their sensitive flower engineers get so upset reading the criticism that they have to get out their clutching pearls and fainting couches. They're not just dishonest, scamming thieves - they're petty dishonest scamming thieves. They lied to get thousands of dollars out of me then kept it and gave me nothing in return. Is this not something the average person would complain about? Also it's not like complaining changes anything really, the machine is a fire hazard and makes pennies a day; it's fucking worthless garbage. |
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notbatman
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February 25, 2015, 10:28:03 PM |
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25 November 2013:
"This product will be available on 24/02/2014"
29 January 2014:
"We have to inform you that our schedule to manufacture and assemble the system has been disrupted and we
are unable to make delivery of the Batch 1 Minion ASIC chip on the initial scheduled date (end of February). We
are now expecting to dispatch all Batch 1 orders on 1st of May 2014."
27 February 2014:
"Expanded our office and we are actively looking to grow our designer teams."
13 March 2014:
"Please rest assured that we will refund the USD in May and we are trying to refund BTCs"
21 March 2014:
"We’ve started work on our Bitcoin/Litecoin pool."
26 March 2014:
"The team working on the Scrypt chip continue their busy schedule. They had some new addition to the team to help with the increasing workload."
03 April 2013:
"Pool design is continuing according to the plan."
24 April 2014:
"We are keeping our promise to price match per Ghash any genuine new miner in stock at the time of shipment and if needed we will dispatch more hashing power."
26 April 2014:
"As our shipping date is few days away, we wish to thank and give back to all customers that have believed in us."
01 May 2014:
"Grab a bargain! We are now clearing our stock of Bitfury boards and selling them under manufacturing price."
08 May 2014:
"X3s are scheduled to start shipping early next week."
06 June 2014:
"Few months ago we announced that we have a surprise in store for our customers."
27 June 2014:
"The surprise: there were various speculations regarding the nature of the surprise. We are not keen on sustaining the suspense any longer however we believe that the moment of disclosing the secret has to be well prepared so it can benefit our customers. Without disclosing any details, we can only ask for our customers to bear with us. We are hoping that the waiting will be worth it."
06 July 2014:
"Deliveries of all X-3 current orders will be completed by the end of the month."
22 August 2014:
"Black Arrow has completed the design of a energy efficient 28nm Scrypt ASIC and it is ready for tape-out."
29 August 2014:
"Black Arrow, a leading Bitcoin ASIC manufacturer, announces that it has been working towards building its next generation Bitcoin ASIC since the tapeout of its last ASIC (March 2014) and it has now set a tape-out date: December 2014. This new Bitcoin ASIC will use the 14nm FinFet process and the power consumption target is 0.3J/Ghash at chip level. Black Arrow has enlarged the team that made Minion ASIC a success and now has obtained support from one of the leading foundry that is able to tape out 14nm FinFet."
28 October 2014:
"Our new partner has just finished the first batch of units which will be dispatched today and tomorrow. Their assembly speed is a clear improvement and at this rate we will be finishing all X3 deliveries in next few weeks."
04 December 2014:
"We have now completed the manufacturing of new hash boards and we are starting the replacement for all customers affected."
10 January 2015:
"We have completed manufacturing of all X3s. If you are one of our customers, please contact us if you have not received your X3 yet. We need your confirmation that it is ok to ship."
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DebitMe
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February 25, 2015, 10:38:49 PM |
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Very good compilation of the lies and filth that this company has spread. It is kind of sad to read and notice that the dates are spanning into 3 different years for a single chip.
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February 26, 2015, 12:11:24 AM |
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Very good compilation of the lies and filth that this company has spread. It is kind of sad to read and notice that the dates are spanning into 3 different years for a single chip.
blackarrow
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Disgusting they keep reading these threads but do nothing about it. |
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notbatman
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February 26, 2015, 12:53:42 AM |
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Very good compilation of the lies and filth that this company has spread. It is kind of sad to read and notice that the dates are spanning into 3 different years for a single chip.
blackarrow
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Disgusting they keep reading these threads but do nothing about it. Naw, that was just their bot coming on-line to delete my post to their official thread. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. I paid in full 15 months ago, where's my fucking order? |
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ElGrandJefe
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February 26, 2015, 07:42:21 AM |
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Very good compilation of the lies and filth that this company has spread. It is kind of sad to read and notice that the dates are spanning into 3 different years for a single chip.
blackarrow
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Disgusting they keep reading these threads but do nothing about it. They're doing something. They're updating their lists of naughty customers who will receive no compensation. Then they cackle maniacally. And probably go kick a puppy. |
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notbatman
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February 26, 2015, 10:04:53 PM |
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These guys are are straight-up criminals, this is fraud.
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notbatman
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February 26, 2015, 10:44:50 PM |
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A quote from the scammers blog: http://alexbusa.blogspot.com/My GSXR1300 Hayabusa was stolen last night - 15 March 2009 around 20:00 - 23:00 from Reading, Berkshire, UK.
This motorcycle is 9 years old and has a more sentimental value than an actual sell value. For this reason I'm offering a reward of:
500GBP to anybody that will supply information that will lead to its undamaged recovery
and another 500GBP if based on the information you've provided the thief is caught and brought to justice
Please call 0794-795.78.98 (Alex) or Thames Valley Police at 0845-850.55.05, press 1 and quote crime reference EA3298499/09
The frame number of the bike is JS1A1111200108149.
If anybody offers to sell any GSXR1300 Hayabusa parts in Reading and has no papers, please give me a ring; it might be my motorcycle.
Fucking cunt complains about his bike being stolen, what a hypocrite! What about the thousands of dollars you stole from me, those thousands cost me more than your shitty bike. Not only that you got your bike back. |
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notbatman
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February 26, 2015, 11:03:03 PM |
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I found a picture of Alex SOVU:  and here are the other 2 cunts Daniel ANDRONIC and Iulia IXARI:  |
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btmtb
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February 27, 2015, 08:31:53 AM |
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25 November 2013:
"This product will be available on 24/02/2014"
29 January 2014:
"We have to inform you that our schedule to manufacture and assemble the system has been disrupted and we
are unable to make delivery of the Batch 1 Minion ASIC chip on the initial scheduled date (end of February). We
are now expecting to dispatch all Batch 1 orders on 1st of May 2014."
27 February 2014:
"Expanded our office and we are actively looking to grow our designer teams."
13 March 2014:
"Please rest assured that we will refund the USD in May and we are trying to refund BTCs"
21 March 2014:
"We’ve started work on our Bitcoin/Litecoin pool."
26 March 2014:
"The team working on the Scrypt chip continue their busy schedule. They had some new addition to the team to help with the increasing workload."
03 April 2013:
"Pool design is continuing according to the plan."
24 April 2014:
"We are keeping our promise to price match per Ghash any genuine new miner in stock at the time of shipment and if needed we will dispatch more hashing power."
26 April 2014:
"As our shipping date is few days away, we wish to thank and give back to all customers that have believed in us."
01 May 2014:
"Grab a bargain! We are now clearing our stock of Bitfury boards and selling them under manufacturing price."
08 May 2014:
"X3s are scheduled to start shipping early next week."
06 June 2014:
"Few months ago we announced that we have a surprise in store for our customers."
27 June 2014:
"The surprise: there were various speculations regarding the nature of the surprise. We are not keen on sustaining the suspense any longer however we believe that the moment of disclosing the secret has to be well prepared so it can benefit our customers. Without disclosing any details, we can only ask for our customers to bear with us. We are hoping that the waiting will be worth it."
06 July 2014:
"Deliveries of all X-3 current orders will be completed by the end of the month."
22 August 2014:
"Black Arrow has completed the design of a energy efficient 28nm Scrypt ASIC and it is ready for tape-out."
29 August 2014:
"Black Arrow, a leading Bitcoin ASIC manufacturer, announces that it has been working towards building its next generation Bitcoin ASIC since the tapeout of its last ASIC (March 2014) and it has now set a tape-out date: December 2014. This new Bitcoin ASIC will use the 14nm FinFet process and the power consumption target is 0.3J/Ghash at chip level. Black Arrow has enlarged the team that made Minion ASIC a success and now has obtained support from one of the leading foundry that is able to tape out 14nm FinFet."
28 October 2014:
"Our new partner has just finished the first batch of units which will be dispatched today and tomorrow. Their assembly speed is a clear improvement and at this rate we will be finishing all X3 deliveries in next few weeks."
04 December 2014:
"We have now completed the manufacturing of new hash boards and we are starting the replacement for all customers affected."
10 January 2015:
"We have completed manufacturing of all X3s. If you are one of our customers, please contact us if you have not received your X3 yet. We need your confirmation that it is ok to ship."
Quoting because I want a quick reference copy, there are a few other status updates that it would be interesting to get back into this timeline, basically the outright fraudulent lies, like stating they're still on track for delivery which I believe they said a matter of days before they announced the delay. Also, the posts stating that he'll match the Price PerGHs on shipping, does anyone have the timestamped sources for these to hand? |
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ElGrandJefe
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February 27, 2015, 10:53:20 AM |
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You forgot a few:
From an e-mail received on February 12, 2014:
"We confirm that the tapeout of the chip is scheduled to take place on 20 February 2014 and we are confident that the Batch 1 products will start shipping on 30th of April 2014. The estimated dispatch window of the whole batch is expected to be between 7 to 9 working days. "
From an e-mail received on April 23, in response to my refund request (submitted April 14):
"Thank you for sending us the required information.
The date for all FIAT refunds is after Mid May. We will be able to issue refunds after we start shipping our products as at that time we can allocate personnel to process this type of refunds. We will do our best to start FIAT refunds at an earlier date if we will have available personnel."
From an e-mail on August 14:
"we cannot afford to send refunds as we've spent all money to purchase parts required to build the miners."
but...
"We would like to offer to ship you ASICs instead and we can dispatch them immediately.
We exchange 120 ASICs for 1 x3 or 7 ASICs for 1 x1."
As I've pointed out several times, IF THEY GIVE US NAKED CHIPS, THEY'D STILL BE STUCK WITH ALL THE PARTS REQUIRED TO BUILD THE MINERS.
And the best one of all, November 15, 2014:
"Your ticket [my refund ticket from April] has been automatically closed as it's older than 30 days."
Worst. Liars. Evar.
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notbatman
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March 04, 2015, 03:52:29 AM |
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29 January 2014
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... we came to the conclusion that it is in the best interest of our customers to delay shipping in order to
ensure that the product provides the best-possible user experience.
... Hi Black Arrow, Thank you for having my best interest in mind. If it's not too much trouble I'd like to ask how much longer do you plan on delaying my order as it's currently a year past due and the product is now obsolete and practically worthless? Regards, Not Batman |
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greenlion
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March 04, 2015, 04:53:32 AM |
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29 January 2014
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... we came to the conclusion that it is in the best interest of our customers to delay shipping in order to
ensure that the product provides the best-possible user experience.
... Hi Black Arrow, Thank you for having my best interest in mind. If it's not too much trouble I'd like to ask how much longer do you plan on delaying my order as it's currently a year past due and the product is now obsolete and practically worthless? Regards, Not Batman That's an awesome quote, because as of Jan 2014 the delay was supposedly the fab, not anything to do with "user experience". |
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ElGrandJefe
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March 04, 2015, 10:12:30 AM |
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I just received a notification telling me that my refund request ticket from April 2014, which the criminals at BlackArrow Software closed in mid-November because it's older than 30 days, has now been closed by the criminals at BlackArrow Software because it's older than 30 days.
That explains all the delays: time warps.
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ajw7989
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March 04, 2015, 11:47:22 AM |
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So sad this company scammed people out of their money. I was tempted to invest in this company and buy some product but never got around to it. They looked good on paper. I hope people are taking initials to try and recover their money don't let scammed get away with it
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OleOle
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March 04, 2015, 11:23:15 PM |
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These guys are are straight-up criminals, this is fraud.
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btmtb
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March 05, 2015, 10:40:53 AM |
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So sad this company scammed people out of their money. I was tempted to invest in this company and buy some product but never got around to it. They looked good on paper. I hope people are taking initials to try and recover their money don't let scammed get away with it
I envy your apathy in this case! There's no shortage of Black Arrow Victims here. |
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Bicknellski
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March 05, 2015, 11:08:19 AM |
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My email has been swamped... as well as tickets. Good chance it got lost.
I will be offering as much of a refund policy as possible, If the order has not been sent off to BA yet, I offer 100% refunds. As far as late shipments, that is something that I will have to think about as we get closer to release date.
Well when would the order be sent off to BA after you receive the payment? And I'd really like a good answer on the late shipment thing to help solidify my purchase. How's Matt doing with those refunds? |
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