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It's most likely he was using multiple windows, each with a robot running. I too can replicate bets at that speed using this process.
I think the betting started and stopped pretty suddenly. If you were using multiple windows, wouldn't it take a while to get up to full speed and also to stop betting as you switched between windows and clicked the stop/start button on each? I'm on a very laggy connection so have no idea how fast the auto-bet feature worked on a fast connection.
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September 12, 2014, 06:36:26 PM |
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It's most likely he was using multiple windows, each with a robot running. I too can replicate bets at that speed using this process.
I think the betting started and stopped pretty suddenly. If you were using multiple windows, wouldn't it take a while to get up to full speed and also to stop betting as you switched between windows and clicked the stop/start button on each? I'm on a very laggy connection so have no idea how fast the auto-bet feature worked on a fast connection. I do not think, it was multi window betting, but 8 Bet per seconds also very fast even very fast internet connection I saw 4-5 Bets per seconds in many site with autobet, but not more then that.
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September 12, 2014, 06:38:36 PM |
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It's most likely he was using multiple windows, each with a robot running. I too can replicate bets at that speed using this process.
I think the betting started and stopped pretty suddenly. If you were using multiple windows, wouldn't it take a while to get up to full speed and also to stop betting as you switched between windows and clicked the stop/start button on each? I'm on a very laggy connection so have no idea how fast the auto-bet feature worked on a fast connection. If this is true, that would make sense. But I didn't see starting and stopping, or that there wasn't a ramp up and ramp down time between starting and stopping, so I can't speak to it. Just offering what I thought was the most likely explanation for the fast betting. On a fast connection, the robot is very fast. With four windows open, I can get about 8-10 bets per second. Doesn't work with tabs though. If a robot is running in a tab that isn't on top of the screen, it runs much slower than normal. But with four robots running in different windows, no problem at all.
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September 12, 2014, 08:39:51 PM Last edit: September 12, 2014, 08:49:59 PM by Joecker |
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Since the bat shit about signatures campaign is at least as useless as the shitstorm of math in thread, I allow myself to reply to dooglus' post here. Again, pure technicalities. I made an obvious mistake. I had another piece of code in mind (if nicolaennio allows me, I'll publish it). Now about dooglus' simulation, the probability he finds is the answer (I think) to this question : III) Given that - all bets are continuously updated at the maximum bet size (which is 0.5% of bankroll) all the time at most 60k times, - betting stops if bankroll reaches 15% of initial BR, what is the probability to win 85% of the initial bankroll ?I don't think so. I didn't include the 60k bets limit at all. First, I don't know where it came from, or whether it's really how many bets he made, and second I don't know that it matters.
Indeed there's no stopping condition on the number of bet in this model. If the random number generator was biased (evenly distributed around 0.495) or if the criterion was "< 0.5", the betting maybe could go forever (Nerds: with what probability?). It would be indeed be interesting do modify the code to capture the number of bets until bust either side (a.k.a. survival time). With max bet size, I expect it to be very short. (Nerds: what is the distribution of that number? ) When asking "how likely is it that what happened was for real?", we need to decide what aspects of "what happened" are significant.
That's right ! And all the rest of the discussion rely on the definition of event and all the IF's rely on the available information or the information we decide to include to our model(s). In mathematical terms, it translates to conditions. P( Event ¦ Information ) (conditional probability) In my previous analysis, I mentioned three(+doog's) of such expressions. For me (I seem to be alone), the probability I) is the first that came into my mind, seemed the most natural to me. Others might have different opinion. Nobody's right or wrong, we just have different views on how to approach a problem with an open question, a non mathematical question.
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September 15, 2014, 12:31:36 AM |
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So is the site provably rigged?
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September 15, 2014, 12:33:46 AM |
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And now people is coming back and invest in it
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September 15, 2014, 01:18:38 AM |
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And now people is coming back and invest in it Well if it's provably rigged so players lose then investors should get a lot of profit
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September 15, 2014, 08:19:12 AM |
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And now people is coming back and invest in it And you're stupid enough to believe that's the case. Either those numbers are fake or the siteowner himself invested to deceive you again.
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September 15, 2014, 08:23:07 AM |
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And now people is coming back and invest in it it is unbelievable.. why to invest in this site come on
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Daanie
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September 15, 2014, 09:48:25 AM |
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And now people is coming back and invest in it And you're stupid enough to believe that's the case. Either those numbers are fake or the siteowner himself invested to deceive you again. I don't think so, he hasn't touched bitcointalk in weeks and i just put in .1btc and cashed .15btc soon after does anyone know if the nonce problem is fixed though? For the record he still owes me 2.34BTC Well, that's what you think. If you're going to get scammed again you deserve it I guess. I would never invest in a site again that made my investment dissappear in such "magical" way. He can let you invest divest for now, so his site gains trust, until the next moment he comes and takes your btc
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September 15, 2014, 11:44:49 AM |
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He allowed 7,000BTC in investments to be returned...he won't take investments but he'll keep his bug active and probably rob the bank with another alt like he did before. Whether his bug is still working or not I have no idea, HE DID however take that whole 300+BTC from the bank to rob investors... I know I won't use this site as tempting as it is since there aren't many like it...hopefully he comes back and he gives peoples money back
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Well, looks like DB is still running and investment is slowly rising and profit growing. All appears to be good and stable. I just hope some freakishly lucky player doesn't suddenly show up out of nowhere and take a few hundred bitcoins from investors when the bankroll becomes more healthy.
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September 15, 2014, 02:25:43 PM |
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Well, looks like DB is still running and investment is slowly rising and profit growing. All appears to be good and stable. I just hope some freakishly lucky player doesn't suddenly show up out of nowhere and take a few hundred bitcoins from investors when the bankroll becomes more healthy.
We have different definitions of "good." I'll grant you stable though, but stability is but a mirage. Things were stable last time too, right up until someone discovered winning nonces were being skipped. As long as people play there though, Manl won't have to come answer for anything that's happened. It's clear at this point he wants to continue running the site. As long as people go there to play, he's getting what he wants, so there's no need to answer any of our questions.
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September 17, 2014, 12:24:22 AM |
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50692491 1.68025523 1.6500 ↑39.9999 81.2208 +1.09216590 41187730 1.19800000 2.0000 ↑50.4999 16.0570 -1.19800000 40312980 0.21291982 2.0000 ↓49.5000 56.4983 -0.21291982 40312644 0.51368555 2.0000 ↑50.4999 18.7655 -0.51368555 40312348 0.20547422 2.0000 ↑50.4999 14.0739 -0.20547422 40312055 0.08218969 2.0000 ↓49.5000 74.2868 -0.08218969 40311896 0.03769063 2.0000 ↑50.4999 9.9552 -0.03769063 40309365 0.01507625 2.0000 ↓49.5000 51.0888 -0.01507625 40309361 0.00603050 2.0000 ↓49.5000 62.8287 -0.00603050 40309357 0.00241220 2.0000 ↓49.5000 99.7774 -0.00241220 40309350 0.00096488 2.0000 ↓49.5000 51.7600 -0.00096488 40309346 0.00038595 2.0000 ↓49.5000 50.0893 -0.00038595 40309341 0.00015438 2.0000 ↓49.5000 83.4282 -0.00015438 40309334 0.00006175 2.0000 ↓49.5000 56.6393 -0.00006175 40309329 0.00002470 2.0000 ↓49.5000 77.8270 -0.00002470 40309324 0.00000988 2.0000 ↓49.5000 72.2230 -0.00000988 40309315 0.00000395 2.0000 ↓49.5000 96.9671 -0.00000395 40309304 0.00000158 2.0000 ↓49.5000 83.6597 -0.00000158 40309296 0.00000063 2.0000 ↓49.5000 67.9544 -0.00000063 40309288 0.00000025 2.0000 ↓49.5000 85.6531 -0.00000025 40309279 0.00000010 2.0000 ↓49.5000 83.2120 -0.00000010 Am I the only one who gambles at Dicebitco.in now?
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September 17, 2014, 12:48:54 AM |
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Am I the only one who gambles at Dicebitco.in now?
They used to get over 1000 BTC wagered per day regularly. Now they're lucky if they get 100 BTC wagered per day: Tue Sep 2 09:01:14 PDT 2014 profit: 57.14303938 invested: 5,830.01221065 wagered: 26,453.2552 bets: 32,462,566 Wed Sep 3 07:10:14 PDT 2014 profit: 97.51547298 invested: 5,835.37166989 wagered: 28,513.0451 bets: 33,624,899 Thu Sep 4 08:09:48 PDT 2014 profit: 106.72483399 invested: 6,314.60683720 wagered: 29,843.2017 bets: 35,446,198 Fri Sep 5 08:46:27 PDT 2014 profit: 175.91141188 invested: 7,238.62508975 wagered: 30,959.2017 bets: 37,501,964 Sat Sep 6 10:11:26 PDT 2014 profit: 201.62990662 invested: 7,381.69733455 wagered: 31,810.6743 bets: 39,692,223 Sun Sep 7 07:40:03 PDT 2014 profit: 259.22495458 invested: 7,108.09065012 wagered: 32,159.8734 bets: 41,190,494 Sun Sep 7 17:46:25 PDT 2014 profit: 161.16300354 invested: 1,704.91132568 wagered: 32,993.4733 bets: 41,781,550 Mon Sep 8 08:10:55 PDT 2014 profit: -205.78715499 invested: 704.96789890 wagered: 85,453.6730 bets: 42,516,227 Mon Sep 8 08:31:25 PDT 2014 profit: -316.11279075 invested: 704.96789890 wagered: 89,743.0994 bets: 42,543,239 BANK: 99.71907091 Mon Sep 8 10:01:14 PDT 2014 profit: -327.07568425 invested: 1,178.45375026 wagered: 90,949.9923 bets: 42,631,645 BANK: 562.24230998 Tue Sep 9 09:18:10 PDT 2014 profit: -329.35365206 invested: 1,132.50293979 wagered: 91,298.6454 bets: 43,526,552 BANK: 514.02009646 Wed Sep 10 20:57:14 PDT 2014 profit: -315.90377541 invested: 1,130.67616779 wagered: 91,741.0462 bets: 44,641,341 BANK: 525.63070559 Thu Sep 11 10:17:14 PDT 2014 profit: -317.17418051 invested: 1,130.64611884 wagered: 91,764.8918 bets: 44,795,601 BANK: 524.29955187 Fri Sep 12 10:10:04 PDT 2014 profit: -319.33467781 invested: 1,127.26238508 wagered: 91,845.4572 bets: 45,753,572 BANK: 518.78566018 Sat Sep 13 08:06:52 PDT 2014 profit: -306.98197776 invested: 1,206.39725636 wagered: 91,988.8721 bets: 47,369,478 BANK: 610.23857176 Sun Sep 14 09:45:14 PDT 2014 profit: -304.79770840 invested: 1,392.26246817 wagered: 92,024.3805 bets: 48,245,730 BANK: 798.28693218 Mon Sep 15 08:29:49 PDT 2014 profit: -301.53743477 invested: 1,462.05982531 wagered: 92,082.7456 bets: 49,059,362 BANK: 871.33805324 Tue Sep 16 11:38:01 PDT 2014 profit: -295.79031602 invested: 1,508.38149462 wagered: 92,153.4729 bets: 50,319,276 BANK: 923.40560018
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September 17, 2014, 01:08:39 AM |
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It appears that they are somehow getting more people to invest in their bankroll. They had mentioned they would seek private funding for their bankroll in one of their last threads.
I would be curious to see if they ever get any kind of meaningful business again.
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September 17, 2014, 01:41:23 AM |
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It appears that they are somehow getting more people to invest in their bankroll. They had mentioned they would seek private funding for their bankroll in one of their last threads.
I would be curious to see if they ever get any kind of meaningful business again.
It's been a week since "Mateo" stopped playing. Since then, the site appears to have won 34 BTC from players. That's better than most sites make in a week.
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It withdraws without fees when fees aren't required according to the current version of the bitcoin core client. It seems that some mining pools are using older, stricted versions of bitcoind, and so think that a fee is required when it isn't, resulting in confirmation being delayed.
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It appears that they are somehow getting more people to invest in their bankroll. They had mentioned they would seek private funding for their bankroll in one of their last threads.
I would be curious to see if they ever get any kind of meaningful business again.
It's been a week since "Mateo" stopped playing. Since then, the site appears to have won 34 BTC from players. That's better than most sites make in a week. Do you think they are still cheating their investors? It would obviously very difficult to tell since they have disabled checking of other users' bets. I think one explanation of this would be that they decided to "roll back" some portion of Mateo's bets after they figured out that something was wrong and was able to pinpoint the problem. Other then that it would mean that their customers have bet ~3,400 BTC in the last week.
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