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August 27, 2020, 02:06:35 PM
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This is sad you all are doing this disabled person like this. They said they were deaf and was suffering from Corona. Yet you still are going to punish them because they used a SMS service? Fortune Jack has sunk to a new all-time low. Especially if they used their own money to win. This right here is along with you just being busted for cheating your players, is a good reason why people needs to avoid this casino.  

I'm surprised you can even form comprehensive replies in this thread considering you are both blind and delusional.

The ignore button was made specially for people like you and I'm about to add you to it.

So do it? lmao. Doesn't change the fact that you've been here for years twisting everything anyone ever says and made yourself out to look like an idiot.

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August 27, 2020, 02:51:03 PM
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Can someone please help me?

I am deaf and in a wheelchair. I am currently confined to my home due to having COVID. I made a deposit at FortuneJack and won without a bonus. They are denying my withdrawal because I used a sms services instead of a registered phone. I explained to them I do not own a phone because I am deaf and disabled so I send and received texts thru sms services. I play at various casinos with the same method and none of them have ever gave me any problems. I read thru this thread and see FJ will allow players to signup thru VPNs but would deny me because I used SMS services? Will someone help me? Help me somebody.



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After reviewing the case related to your account, our fraud department has found out that it violates FortuneJack's Terms and Conditions.

Despite the fact of breaking the rules, we're ready to release the DEPOSIT amount back to your wallet. There's nothing to be done on our end.

After the confirmation, we will have to terminate the user according to the existing policy, listed publicly onto the website.

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August 28, 2020, 01:26:42 AM
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However, we would like to thank for your feedback and added interest in our casino games, including the Provably Fair ones. The thoughts and intentions of the community is our top priority, as a result, we’ve requested them to consider the following concern of the user, regarding the client/server seed changes, and we will be updating it in the upcoming weeks, so everyone can feel safe while playing at the properties of FortuneJack.

Is this a real update in a few weeks, or will it end up like Adrenaline which has still not been fixed after more than a year (and apparently moved back to the real provably fair section which is a lie)?

Do you plan on ever fixing Adrenaline or do you plan on continuing to falsely advertise it as provably fair?

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August 28, 2020, 04:01:09 AM
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However, we would like to thank for your feedback and added interest in our casino games, including the Provably Fair ones. The thoughts and intentions of the community is our top priority, as a result, we’ve requested them to consider the following concern of the user, regarding the client/server seed changes, and we will be updating it in the upcoming weeks, so everyone can feel safe while playing at the properties of FortuneJack.

Is this a real update in a few weeks, or will it end up like Adrenaline which has still not been fixed after more than a year (and apparently moved back to the real provably fair section which is a lie)?

Do you plan on ever fixing Adrenaline or do you plan on continuing to falsely advertise it as provably fair?


Yesterday I sent a personal message to FJ to inquire if the matter is closed from their end so I can make my final statement and whether they wanna stick to the statement that 'they still consider current Dice probably fair even though they are ready to change the implementation in next update'.

To which I got the reply that they are still looking into the additional insights I provided in post number #8528 and will get back to me on 3rd September. Let's see what reply they come up with.

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August 28, 2020, 09:58:27 AM
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Good work webtricks and DarkStar_ in bringing up these things. I know FJ are decent people, and believe they don't mean to do all these things, because even for us here in crypto (or myself anyway) it took me a while to understand what provably fair meant. But if we don't remind them, they'll forget. I have seen a few things here not answered and they're not generally so important but PF is a big issue for us. Let's wait and see.

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August 28, 2020, 02:41:35 PM
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However, we would like to thank for your feedback and added interest in our casino games, including the Provably Fair ones. The thoughts and intentions of the community is our top priority, as a result, we’ve requested them to consider the following concern of the user, regarding the client/server seed changes, and we will be updating it in the upcoming weeks, so everyone can feel safe while playing at the properties of FortuneJack.

Is this a real update in a few weeks, or will it end up like Adrenaline which has still not been fixed after more than a year (and apparently moved back to the real provably fair section which is a lie)?

Do you plan on ever fixing Adrenaline or do you plan on continuing to falsely advertise it as provably fair?




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Thanks for mentioning the unfortunate issue we made while updating the old layout of the FJ website.

As for now, Adrenaline is removed from the Provably Fair category and will not be placed back to the same list unless the provider entirely updates it according to the PV standards.

Once again, sorry for the inconvenience - we're always open for the suggestions and criticisms of the crypto gambling community, as it's the only place, FortuneJack, as the company plans to build the authority as well trustworthiness. Don't hesitate to continue exploring the ins and outs of the games, providers and the overall platform as a whole, so our team can continue building the products that the audience loves and enjoys playing with.

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August 28, 2020, 08:06:49 PM
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However, we would like to thank for your feedback and added interest in our casino games, including the Provably Fair ones. The thoughts and intentions of the community is our top priority, as a result, we’ve requested them to consider the following concern of the user, regarding the client/server seed changes, and we will be updating it in the upcoming weeks, so everyone can feel safe while playing at the properties of FortuneJack.

Is this a real update in a few weeks, or will it end up like Adrenaline which has still not been fixed after more than a year (and apparently moved back to the real provably fair section which is a lie)?

Do you plan on ever fixing Adrenaline or do you plan on continuing to falsely advertise it as provably fair?
@DarkStar_

Thanks for mentioning the unfortunate issue we made while updating the old layout of the FJ website.

As for now, Adrenaline is removed from the Provably Fair category and will not be placed back to the same list unless the provider entirely updates it according to the PV standards.

Once again, sorry for the inconvenience - we're always open for the suggestions and criticisms of the crypto gambling community, as it's the only place, FortuneJack, as the company plans to build the authority as well trustworthiness. Don't hesitate to continue exploring the ins and outs of the games, providers and the overall platform as a whole, so our team can continue building the products that the audience loves and enjoys playing with.

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I hope it is actually fixed sooner than later. It shouldn't be too difficult to do, just copy the very good bustabit implementation that many other sites have used for that style of game.

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August 28, 2020, 08:28:51 PM
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But if you look around they are known for making up excuses to void wins and they are known for stalling payment. I knew when they was trying to charge people to withdraw winnings this was a telltale sign to STOP depositing with them. I hope you get better from the CoronaVirus its a nasty disease and I have had family and friends to die from it. I for one will be boycotting this casino from here on out. Shame on Fortune Jack!
Don't be so quick to believe everything people say. Just a few weeks earlier, there was a sportsbet.io incident where the user in question accusing the casino was actually breaking ToS with multiple accounts, admitting to it. Suppose I decide that I don't want to verify my ID and instead use a service, and then upon being caught I post on the forum, claiming that I am deaf and disabled.

Does that justify the fact that I willingly provided fraudulent details? Remember: you have no assurance that the claims are valid. Have a little skepticism, will you? This is the crypto space.

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August 29, 2020, 12:16:08 PM
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There could be different understandings of provably fair, I get that "provably" makes you understand that you want to see if it was provably fair or not as in prove the fairness, but if they didn't change anything whilst you are playing, it was provably fair we all agree with that.

The only thing you are not sure about with the current situation if they can check the seed they could actually play with the results while you are playing, which you can change your seed and interrupt but let's say you do not, they really have to be on top of every seed and make sure they know if you play one way or another as well. I see this as a very tiny fraction chance, however let's say even that is bothersome, they are working on fixing it as well, not like we can ask for more.

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August 29, 2020, 05:40:19 PM
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There could be different understandings of provably fair, I get that "provably" makes you understand that you want to see if it was provably fair or not as in prove the fairness, but if they didn't change anything whilst you are playing, it was provably fair we all agree with that.

The only thing you are not sure about with the current situation if they can check the seed they could actually play with the results while you are playing, which you can change your seed and interrupt but let's say you do not, they really have to be on top of every seed and make sure they know if you play one way or another as well. I see this as a very tiny fraction chance, however let's say even that is bothersome, they are working on fixing it as well, not like we can ask for more.

You are seriously under-estimating the intensity of the issue. I have spent 7 months as a part of the Crypto Casino Development team. We had spent quite a time in studying various simulation techniques which could be used to harness the results in the favor of casino in long run.

As we all know, humans are worst random generators. In long run, they tend to exhibit same pattern. Consider a typical gambler, if he plays Dice game daily, he is surely following a specific strategy. Casino will set a threshold, let say, 50K bets. Over 50K bets, casino only need to gather certain information about player's betting strategy such as how many times does he like to roll above 50 or below 50 (it can be any number depending on player's stategy) in single auto-betting session, how often does he change the pair of seeds. Just studying such details, casino can set a script for a particular player.

If (player ID === N) { show hash of the server seed which when used with player's selected client seed generates result in favor of casino as per player's previous betting strategy with nonce from 0/1 to S in 55%+ cases }

where S = average number of bets player makes in between changing seeds.
If S is a number less than 5000 then even simple GPU laptop can generate such rigged server seed in less than a second as per the manipulated script. Just imagine, this small tweak will increase the house edge to 10+ percent!!

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August 30, 2020, 09:32:13 AM
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But if you look around they are known for making up excuses to void wins and they are known for stalling payment. I knew when they was trying to charge people to withdraw winnings this was a telltale sign to STOP depositing with them. I hope you get better from the CoronaVirus its a nasty disease and I have had family and friends to die from it. I for one will be boycotting this casino from here on out. Shame on Fortune Jack!
Don't be so quick to believe everything people say. Just a few weeks earlier, there was a sportsbet.io incident where the user in question accusing the casino was actually breaking ToS with multiple accounts, admitting to it. Suppose I decide that I don't want to verify my ID and instead use a service, and then upon being caught I post on the forum, claiming that I am deaf and disabled.

Does that justify the fact that I willingly provided fraudulent details? Remember: you have no assurance that the claims are valid. Have a little skepticism, will you? This is the crypto space.

The idea that skepticism and cynicism is actually required to even come into any investment space, most of all crypto, escapes everybody these days! I totally get the concept of the user being right, and that benefit of doubt must always be given but having been in crypto and gambling, you always, always sense when someone is trying to fool people, and you always get the sense of what's legitimate and what's not.


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August 30, 2020, 11:03:10 AM
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There could be different understandings of provably fair, I get that "provably" makes you understand that you want to see if it was provably fair or not as in prove the fairness, but if they didn't change anything whilst you are playing, it was provably fair we all agree with that.

Your assumption is based on trust, therefore it can't be called 'provably', right?

The only thing you are not sure about with the current situation if they can check the seed they could actually play with the results while you are playing, which you can change your seed and interrupt but let's say you do not, they really have to be on top of every seed and make sure they know if you play one way or another as well. I see this as a very tiny fraction chance, however let's say even that is bothersome, they are working on fixing it as well, not like we can ask for more.

I believe webtricks has already given enough evidence that the current system can be manipulated in favor of FJ. The question here is not whether they are really doing it or not but about the possibility itself.

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September 01, 2020, 06:26:52 PM
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There could be different understandings of provably fair, I get that "provably" makes you understand that you want to see if it was provably fair or not as in prove the fairness, but if they didn't change anything whilst you are playing, it was provably fair we all agree with that.

The only thing you are not sure about with the current situation if they can check the seed they could actually play with the results while you are playing, which you can change your seed and interrupt but let's say you do not, they really have to be on top of every seed and make sure they know if you play one way or another as well. I see this as a very tiny fraction chance, however let's say even that is bothersome, they are working on fixing it as well, not like we can ask for more.
I would call their system "probably fair".
As it was mentioned, results can be manipulated and why did FJ left that bug there? Was it just a mistake or intentionally caused? Probably makes some doubts but at the same time we all know that dice and other provably fair games have house edge and on long term according to math, profit is on casino's side and every bet decreases your chance of win, so, why to lie when mathematically it's guaranteed for you to win? For more wins? Idk, FJ isn't shit casino but at the same time it worth to mention that they had some problems in past and now.

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Final announcement regarding the new Dice Game:

We would like to thank you for your feedback regarding the concerns of the New Dice game being entirely Provably Fair or not. Specials credits to @webtricks for taking his time to go deep into analysis and putting out thoughts out here for the community. Since the day one of us reporting the issue, our technical department has been in touch with the board members of the Orbital Gaming (official provider of the game) to find out if there was any type of bug, that the team has missed while implementing the new version of the game onto the FJ’s platform.

Despite the fact of us not taking any advantage of possibly manipulating the results. We as a trusted casino among reputable members of the crypto gambling were obliged to take the thoughts of the users who prefer playing here at FortuneJack into consideration. To meet the current standards of the Provably Fair system (that’s been ever-changing since it’s foundation), our team has decided to report concern of @webtricks as a fairness bug.

According to the past bug bounty campaign, hosted during the period of July 1 to July 10, finding the fairness issue had the bounty of 1 BTC. To be thoroughly equal to the past reporters, we had to come up with the reasonable amount to adequately meet the expectations of the user. Correspondingly, he will be given the reward of 0.5 BTC (Bitcoin) for outlining the issue publicly, suggesting the way of us fixing it and being an honest member of the community in general.

As for now, the bug that we’ve been talking about previously is completely fixed and the update itself is already live on FortuneJack’s website. Feel free to give it a check and continue playing a new version of the Dice without having any type of hesitation, whatsoever. For the nonce, we believe that this case is ought to be considered as closed for further development. We’re more than excited to welcome new members of the community to the latest areas of the platform, including the category of Provably Fair games. It’s our duty to keep the technical environment fair and safe to be playing at while our players continue trying their luck on the fresh set of games that team releases.


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Final announcement regarding the new Dice Game:

We would like to thank you for your feedback regarding the concerns of the New Dice game being entirely Provably Fair or not. Specials credits to @webtricks for taking his time to go deep into analysis and putting out thoughts out here for the community. Since the day one of us reporting the issue, our technical department has been in touch with the board members of the Orbital Gaming (official provider of the game) to find out if there was any type of bug, that the team has missed while implementing the new version of the game onto the FJ’s platform.

Despite the fact of us not taking any advantage of possibly manipulating the results. We as a trusted casino among reputable members of the crypto gambling were obliged to take the thoughts of the users who prefer playing here at FortuneJack into consideration. To meet the current standards of the Provably Fair system (that’s been ever-changing since it’s foundation), our team has decided to report concern of @webtricks as a fairness bug.

According to the past bug bounty campaign, hosted during the period of July 1 to July 10, finding the fairness issue had the bounty of 1 BTC. To be thoroughly equal to the past reporters, we had to come up with the reasonable amount to adequately meet the expectations of the user. Correspondingly, he will be given the reward of 0.5 BTC (Bitcoin) for outlining the issue publicly, suggesting the way of us fixing it and being an honest member of the community in general.

As for now, the bug that we’ve been talking about previously is completely fixed and the update itself is already live on FortuneJack’s website. Feel free to give it a check and continue playing a new version of the Dice without having any type of hesitation, whatsoever. For the nonce, we believe that this case is ought to be considered as closed for further development. We’re more than excited to welcome new members of the community to the latest areas of the platform, including the category of Provably Fair games. It’s our duty to keep the technical environment fair and safe to be playing at while our players continue trying their luck on the fresh set of games that team releases.


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@FortuneJack this is a welcome announcement, and I believe that all the gamblers who wager on your site will be glad that this issue was promptly fixed. Also congratulations to @webtricks as he definitely deserved that bounty, and it’s pertinent to note that FJ was under no pressure to reward him, but yet they did it to show their commitment to the gambling community which once again proves that they’re a safe and a legit site.
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Final announcement regarding the new Dice Game:

We would like to thank you for your feedback regarding the concerns of the New Dice game being entirely Provably Fair or not. Specials credits to @webtricks for taking his time to go deep into analysis and putting out thoughts out here for the community. Since the day one of us reporting the issue, our technical department has been in touch with the board members of the Orbital Gaming (official provider of the game) to find out if there was any type of bug, that the team has missed while implementing the new version of the game onto the FJ’s platform.

Despite the fact of us not taking any advantage of possibly manipulating the results. We as a trusted casino among reputable members of the crypto gambling were obliged to take the thoughts of the users who prefer playing here at FortuneJack into consideration. To meet the current standards of the Provably Fair system (that’s been ever-changing since it’s foundation), our team has decided to report concern of @webtricks as a fairness bug.

According to the past bug bounty campaign, hosted during the period of July 1 to July 10, finding the fairness issue had the bounty of 1 BTC. To be thoroughly equal to the past reporters, we had to come up with the reasonable amount to adequately meet the expectations of the user. Correspondingly, he will be given the reward of 0.5 BTC (Bitcoin) for outlining the issue publicly, suggesting the way of us fixing it and being an honest member of the community in general.

As for now, the bug that we’ve been talking about previously is completely fixed and the update itself is already live on FortuneJack’s website. Feel free to give it a check and continue playing a new version of the Dice without having any type of hesitation, whatsoever.
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I just checked the updated version of 'Dice' game and it's perfect. Player is given the SHA-256 hash of next server seed before changing the client seed. That's what I asked for and it now assures that FJ cannot change the result after player changed the client seed. A perfect decentralized trust system!

I really appreciate FJ for escalating the issue and solving it within the time frame asked. That's a difference between a reputable casino and others.

Thanks for the reward, looking forward to receive it.

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^  Thanks to people like you, who actually know what their talking about to make constructive criticisms on how to make the site better..   And in a way, make the crypto gambling scene a little better in the process. 

There should be more people like you in this space.

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September 04, 2020, 08:03:17 AM
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It is good to know that everything about that has been fixed immediately with Provably fairness. The former or novice gambler should not have to worry about playing again here at FJ. This casino really proves that they have a proud reputation and can be trusted. We just thank @webtricks for taking his time and knowing how to fix this issue. Congrats and you really deserve the bounty reward.

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September 04, 2020, 08:10:53 AM
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This is the way how every casino should be working, either this is too good or it is too good to be true. Fortunejack got a complaint and a feedback about a situation on their website, they saw it and fixed it and paid the guy who reported it as a thanks-giving, what the hell can you do better?

This is literally the way to go and beyond, they have done an incredible job. I mean they didn't give us any reason not to believe them, but the simple check would be to see if @webtricks actually got the money and to see if it is really fixed which should be easy to check.

Fortunejack is really not just some crypto startup type thing, it is actually a business with business people in it, they are really professional and they do everything they suppose to do perfectly.

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September 04, 2020, 08:17:50 AM
 #8540

This is literally the way to go and beyond, they have done an incredible job. I mean they didn't give us any reason not to believe them, but the simple check would be to see if @webtricks actually got the money and to see if it is really fixed which should be easy to check.

I confirm that I received the reward. Also the issue on the site is fixed which I already confirmed yesterday. Everything is green. You guys can go and roll dice on FJ without hesitation. Wink

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