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October 25, 2014, 01:38:32 AM |
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I think we need to coin that has more dev friendly and responsible. Truckcoin have a dev like that .. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716182.0may pavel is busy, continue to let your craigscoin in wallet.
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natmccoy
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October 25, 2014, 02:53:04 AM |
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Something suspicious is going on here, the only activity in this forum for the last month has been investors and optimistic folks, then as soon as there is a flash dump to 40 satoshi there are a bunch of people in here saying what a failure this coin was. I don't want to make the typical (and seemingly typically wrong) statement that it's people accumulating before a pump, but the timing is strange. Were all these people just watching craigscoin daily and chose today to come in and fud?
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RagingBull
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October 25, 2014, 03:07:20 AM |
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If you launch a new alt coin like this you should plan to spend as much on PR and market stabilization as on the actual development.
I'm sure there were enough funds generated by the ICO to do this correctly here.
Coin devs who say they just want to focus on development and not worry about the market need to get their heads out of their arses!
correct.
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October 25, 2014, 03:49:48 AM |
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If you launch a new alt coin like this you should plan to spend as much on PR and market stabilization as on the actual development.
I'm sure there were enough funds generated by the ICO to do this correctly here.
Coin devs who say they just want to focus on development and not worry about the market need to get their heads out of their arses!
correct. I would argue that the website is in absolutely no condition to be advertised right now. Advertising shouldn't be done until the website actually looks impressive, no sense pumping up the value just to have it dumped later, lets get the coin looking good before they try to sell more people on it. By the way, I know the dev was here two days ago, but if he could just pop in and say "Hey guys, still working on stuff" that would be great..... we need a hug right now while the price is so hard to look at.
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The Master
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October 25, 2014, 04:25:44 AM |
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Wow this coins shit the bed! WTF happened?
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johnsans
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October 25, 2014, 07:22:04 AM |
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its simple, abandoned by some investors
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October 25, 2014, 02:22:03 PM |
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Pavel, you have 400+ BTC from the ICO, but consider your long-term reputation in crypto going forward. If you have something to say (and, preferably, do) in your own defense (I'd been waiting to see an update on the PR campaign and the roadmap in light of the many good ideas that had been circulated here in the week of your business trip), now would be a good time to speak up or you'll risk, fairly or unfairly, being branded a scam dev of a scam coin for eternity.
Also, I don't know about this allegation rustynailer has repeatedly had out there for a while -- that you conspired in the immediate ICO launch dumping by basically giving away "free" CRAIG to people you "borrowed" ICO BTC from (if I understand this allegation correctly). It seems to me that post-ICO dumps happen frequently as people rush to try and secure their profits and cash in fast in a market we all know is jittery. But there's usually a meaningful bounce after that kind of early selling, and that bounce never really happened with CRAIG in any sustained way.
It also seems to me to be impossible for you to categorically prove or disprove the allegation, short of giving a trusted third party access to your PM correspondence and Bittrex account, but now would be a good time to at least try to directly address the question of whether you were involved in a conspiracy to "borrow" and then give back ICO BTC to people who then relentlessly dumped CRAIGs after the launch.
Again, you have 400+ BTC from the ICO, but consider your long-term reputation in crypto going forward and the damage that's been inflicted on a lot of people here.
A prolonged silence on these issues will condemn you on this forum, fairly or unfairly.
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October 25, 2014, 03:42:51 PM |
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Hey Pavel, I know this link is old, but I didn't know if you've seen it before. Great ideas on future coin programming. Don't know if it can help you out with ideas on your own program development of CraigsCoin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dpjN3Mwps
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natmccoy
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October 25, 2014, 08:05:20 PM |
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I like this coin and I intend to keep those who already have. Surely will buy as much as I can. Pavel has no reason to give up what he does, and the only thing I want to wish him more work and success!
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AbiusGMIU
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October 25, 2014, 08:22:00 PM |
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its simple, abandoned by some investors
To the people that don't understand what happened here, let me explain. We got scammed. The investors here didn't abandon anything, the ico investors were screwed as soon as they invested in this copy/paste coin. I have been on this thread since day one and I haven't seen any fud at all, this coin didn't need any fud to drive the price down. The price tanked as soon as it hit the market, and I think I made myself clear on previous posts on why that happened. There has been too many cheerleaders here ignoring the fundamental problems with the implementation, structure and direction of the coin. Too many people here sitting back and saying nothing because they dont want to offend the dev or rock the boat. Some people didn't like what I had to say and ignored me or accused me of fud. And believe me I have given Pavel the benefit of the doubt on more than one occasion, but there has been just too many red flags on this. Good luck everyone... this coin is dead. I told what would happen on page 40 and it did. Dev is enjoying his BTC, free to convert it to USD ($$$$), rubles or Yen if he feels like taking a vacation, all the while leaving desperate people holding.
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October 25, 2014, 09:28:49 PM |
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I want an AMA from #1 on the rich list. 2/3rd or all CRAIG ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) All combined I would rank at #14 edit: #1 is probably bittrex right? That would mean hardly any of the coins are being staked!
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October 25, 2014, 10:30:16 PM |
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Dev, I think the documentation for this coin on Github is not enough. Its better if u give a detailed explanation on the algorithm, and better if u create a wiki for technical details. Its just me, wants to develop around the coin, but find a hard time to comprehend stuff. So let make thinks easy.
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3r197
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October 26, 2014, 12:59:18 AM |
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I want an AMA from #1 on the rich list. 2/3rd or all CRAIG ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) All combined I would rank at #14 edit: #1 is probably bittrex right? That would mean hardly any of the coins are being staked! I've been watching that amount for days. For some reason it doesn't change and I don't know why. And yes, it would be nice to see more people staking. But you can't help that dumb people still like to let other people hold their money.
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natmccoy
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October 26, 2014, 01:07:47 AM |
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I want an AMA from #1 on the rich list. 2/3rd or all CRAIG ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) All combined I would rank at #14 edit: #1 is probably bittrex right? That would mean hardly any of the coins are being staked! I've been watching that amount for days. For some reason it doesn't change and I don't know why. And yes, it would be nice to see more people staking. But you can't help that dumb people still like to let other people hold their money. I guess it would not be bittrex because there is only 1 input? Could it be that somebody bought 2/3rds of the ICO coins and held them all this time? That would be a massive loss of money, this is an interesting coin/situation for sure.
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October 26, 2014, 01:37:38 AM |
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If the dev has no time to concentrate on the future of this coin and work his ass out, maybe he can hand it over to the community and give some funds on the team that will move the life of this coin. What I can see from here is that the dev is already complacent with the large sum of money he got from the ICO. He should know that he has responsibility towards his investors.
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johnsans
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October 26, 2014, 02:08:00 AM |
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If the dev has no time to concentrate on the future of this coin and work his ass out, maybe he can hand it over to the community and give some funds on the team that will move the life of this coin. What I can see from here is that the dev is already complacent with the large sum of money he got from the ICO. He should know that he has responsibility towards his investors.
it too late to know that. we need bittrex to pay for this.
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October 26, 2014, 02:10:43 AM |
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If the dev has no time to concentrate on the future of this coin and work his ass out, maybe he can hand it over to the community and give some funds on the team that will move the life of this coin. What I can see from here is that the dev is already complacent with the large sum of money he got from the ICO. He should know that he has responsibility towards his investors.
it too late to know that. we need bittrex to pay for this. In what manner this is possible then?
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October 26, 2014, 03:37:28 AM |
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is the classfied ad working or just a concept ?
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natmccoy
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October 26, 2014, 04:40:22 AM |
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All of the people appearing to call this coin a scam and say the dev ran away; Were you guys ICO investors like myself who are upset? Or have you come to drive the price down and buy it cheaply?
The Dev was here 3 days ago. Progress and updates have been quite slow indeed, but there are no direct indications that he abandoned the project. Perhaps he is just bad at communicating with investors and the community. Hopefully he just doesn't grasp the importance of updates and communication to the value of the project.
It's unsettling indeed, but I'm still reducing my average, honestly it's getting to a point where it would have that value even without a dev.
I have two things to say to Pavel:
1. Please use bitcointalk or twitter or reddit etc. at least a few times a week.
2. Improve the website. Wallet is not bad, staking is really nice, ad posting from the wallet works well... but the website is ugly.
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October 26, 2014, 05:14:50 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnUK5Jmi.jpg&t=665&c=xGA1qlwfQpsPPg) Well someone has confidence in CRAIG ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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