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Author Topic: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh)  (Read 432638 times)
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November 11, 2015, 10:28:11 AM
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I wonder if Whoever is pushing the price down actually thinks people are going to sell at these ridiculous prices. As far as I can tell, Someone is buying and selling their own coins on bittrex. This is the same person who is pushing the price down.
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 is he trying to short because that's a dangerous game to play when you're the only one actually selling.  Wink

Actually, that was me selling. I've watched and participated for almost two years and in all that time someone has been purposefully capping the price at a penny. We've all witnessed it, it's not even news anymore.  Cheesy

At first I assumed it was just some nutjob crackpot in his 40's who had severe control issues symbolic of mental illness of some sort, schizophrenia maybe with a healthy heaping of paranoia mixed with some sprinkles of OCD. But for the life of me, I can't imagine even a person like that having the staying power like this guy has. It just isn't logical to assume that after all this time, one person would be crazy enough to obsessively control the price of an obscure coin in an obscure corner of the digital universe that has no more than a couple dozen people even paying attention. The odds of that hypothesis being true are so small that there has to be some other variable in the equation that has been carefully omitted from this whole story.

For what rational purpose then would someone try to control the price of this coin since its inception? Who benefits from that? Someone who has completed deluded themselves into thinking this coin would save the world? Or someone who wanted to take advantage of people who would be deluded into thinking this coin will save the world? Or perhaps both?

I still don't know the answers to these questions but I do have a lot of data gathered and a fairly informed opinion given the time horizon I've been part of this little experiment. One conclusion I have made for myself is this: I choose to no longer be a part of this experiment. I sincerely hope it works out for those choosing to continue their involvement. And for the individual(s) working day and night to control the price of this coin, may you be blessed with a reward equal to your efforts that will inspire the courage within you to begin allowing some things in your life to occur naturally. And know that such an obsessive focus on control is not rational, it is quite the opposite, it is an emotional decision rooted in fear that you have cleverly convinced yourself is the right thing to do, for whatever reason.

And with that, I bid you all adieu! Cheesy I have thoroughly enjoyed my time here in this quiet little corner of the Universe and I have gained much insight into the nature of man and how that is ultimately what defines the nature of value. I have also come to understand my own nature during this time and this particular experiment no longer matches my definition of value, therefore I am moving on.

Again, best wishes to all of you in the fight for freedom. Our goals are still the same, I'm simply choosing a different path to get there. Kiss

Im sorry to hear that you are leaving this community...Just keep dumping and fill my bags with cheap SLR!
Just like I already told you, one person cannot change the fate of Solarcoin. I understand that it's frustrating watching the price move because someone decides to manipulate the sh*t out of it.
As Solarcoin grows and becomes more popular these problems will fade as every one as individual has less power to control the market.
Good luck to you and hope to see you back sometime here sometime.
But again, thank you for selling. Not only because I can stock up, but also because ''mr ghost''will have less influence right now, because the coins are simply cheaper and there is nothing left to dump Wink he must be pissed. Playing god just to realize he has too many coins and has nowhere to dump Smiley. At least you are testing SLR resistance levels  haha. take care
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November 11, 2015, 04:21:20 PM
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Luke,

For the power supply to your solar PC may I suggest this Solar Generator by GoalZero? It is WAAAAAAY simpler than hooking up all the other sh*t and it can be used with Goal Zero panels that have DC input, or with a  DC to MC4 converter for all other brands of panel.... plus if you watch the reviews you will see the software/charge controller in each is amazing.

The come in 150, 400, 1250 (WH)


Yeti >>  http://www.goalzero.com/p/164/Goal-Zero-Yeti-150-Solar-Generator

converter >> http://www.goalzero.com/p/261/mc4-solar-to-8mm-adapter-cable


I have one now with a 150 watt Renogy panel and it is insane...Hope that at least scratches your brain a bit  Tongue


edit: I have looked for other companies with units like this, but so fare NONE are even close in price or quality
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November 13, 2015, 03:22:59 AM
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Luke,

For the power supply to your solar PC may I suggest this Solar Generator by GoalZero? It is WAAAAAAY simpler than hooking up all the other sh*t and it can be used with Goal Zero panels that have DC input, or with a  DC to MC4 converter for all other brands of panel.... plus if you watch the reviews you will see the software/charge controller in each is amazing.

The come in 150, 400, 1250 (WH)


Yeti >>  http://www.goalzero.com/p/164/Goal-Zero-Yeti-150-Solar-Generator

converter >> http://www.goalzero.com/p/261/mc4-solar-to-8mm-adapter-cable


I have one now with a 150 watt Renogy panel and it is insane...Hope that at least scratches your brain a bit  Tongue


edit: I have looked for other companies with units like this, but so fare NONE are even close in price or quality

The various groups including those applying for VC, incubators etc. and the community are interested in SLR efficiency.  Can people poke holes/comment on this.  https://docs.google.com/a/solcrypto.com/spreadsheets/d/1QzIA5Nd3pVRGn2c48Oc_dqpImrOfYlwp74UzHXjArdE/edit?usp=sharing

It compares a 1.5million user BTC network and 1.5 million SLR network for energy, transaction cost and carbon load using electricity as a proxy.  If coal is used 1MWh is roughly equivelant to 1 tonne of carbon.

Solarcoin (§ SLR) are like airmiles. Each 1 Mhw generated gets you §1 free. Solarcoins can purchase what others will trade: USD,BTC, Soy candles..etc.
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November 14, 2015, 08:20:29 AM
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Luke,

For the power supply to your solar PC may I suggest this Solar Generator by GoalZero? It is WAAAAAAY simpler than hooking up all the other sh*t and it can be used with Goal Zero panels that have DC input, or with a  DC to MC4 converter for all other brands of panel.... plus if you watch the reviews you will see the software/charge controller in each is amazing.

The come in 150, 400, 1250 (WH)


Yeti >>  http://www.goalzero.com/p/164/Goal-Zero-Yeti-150-Solar-Generator

converter >> http://www.goalzero.com/p/261/mc4-solar-to-8mm-adapter-cable


I have one now with a 150 watt Renogy panel and it is insane...Hope that at least scratches your brain a bit  Tongue


edit: I have looked for other companies with units like this, but so fare NONE are even close in price or quality

Hi Matt,

Sorry I was out and offline for a while.

Yes, I totally agree to simplify the design of the offline stand alone system node.
The ReneSola 250W modules are so heavy and huge! They are 1.64mx 0.99m and have these heavy aluminium frames. Not portable unless you have a small wagon or pickup truck.

The key ingredient is the charge controller for the associated batteries and the kWh Modbus TCPIP meter. I searched the market for a good 6 months. I only came up with the ACU unit. These are still quite pricey themselves at about 400 dollars/unit for just the kWh meter. Very high quality though.

I actually own a goal zero panel and an LED light for camping. These are very reliable and have never let me down so far when charging phones and cameras in the wilderness.

Now if you can please give me suggestions on the best way to connect these goal zero products to a system that incorpotes modbus TCPIP then we can make forward progress on making solarcoin nodes portable....

Cheers,
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November 16, 2015, 05:43:48 AM
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Looking for constructive feedback on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WD3HW6l6gc

how can it be made better? let me know either publicly or PM.

Solarcoin (§ SLR) are like airmiles. Each 1 Mhw generated gets you §1 free. Solarcoins can purchase what others will trade: USD,BTC, Soy candles..etc.
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November 16, 2015, 07:57:36 PM
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Looking for constructive feedback on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WD3HW6l6gc

how can it be made better? let me know either publicly or PM.

I love the starting points but here are a few things I would change...

1. the TCP/IP example is WAAAAY too complicated.. you should stick with using money or some fiat as an example to keep on track

2. get a more 'bubbly' and loud voice.. the voice being used is quite and doesn't sound formal or like a "movie voice"

3. get rid of the soft rock track.. this video kinda looks like it was made by a 50 year old man in his garage with windows media player (but I get that we are all poor here and no one has money to produce HAHA)
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November 17, 2015, 09:52:22 AM
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Looking for constructive feedback on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WD3HW6l6gc

how can it be made better? let me know either publicly or PM.

I love the starting points but here are a few things I would change...

1. the TCP/IP example is WAAAAY too complicated.. you should stick with using money or some fiat as an example to keep on track

2. get a more 'bubbly' and loud voice.. the voice being used is quite and doesn't sound formal or like a "movie voice"

3. get rid of the soft rock track.. this video kinda looks like it was made by a 50 year old man in his garage with windows media player (but I get that we are all poor here and no one has money to produce HAHA)

I actually think the TCP/IP example is pretty good.
Maybe we could all contribute so that the video is remade with a more professional voice.
I don't mind donating if the cause is for Solarcoin.

Maybe we can get someone who has experience creating videos for this little clip.  
But I like the idea, and we really do need to spread the word
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November 18, 2015, 07:34:57 PM
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Either way this video needs to be a bit shorter, simpler, & more flashy with updated graphics.. I would love to donate too with BTC, LTC, SLR as I know more funding always brings in more developers and active participants who can produce content to drive this ecosystem forward.

Can we setup an SLR tip system with a list of bounties or rewards (found online in the open web) for things like videos, logos, dev, and all other additional projects that need to be completed?


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November 18, 2015, 07:51:41 PM
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Can we setup an SLR tip system with a list of bounties or rewards (found online in the open web) for things like videos, logos, dev, and all other additional projects that need to be completed?




That Sounds awesome. Unfortunately I'm nut much of a producer myself :p I too would be glad to donate some BTC/LTC/SLR Smiley
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November 18, 2015, 08:01:41 PM
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Would it actually be possible to run a full Solarcoin client on a Raspberry Pi and stake?

I am currently running my node using a 400 Watt PC, and it's starting to show in my power bill :p
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November 18, 2015, 08:03:45 PM
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We should also be taking steps to distribute some of this coin to the public & those who don't yet know about this so the rub is more fairly distributed to encourage a network effect before claimants enter the space. Some say initial investor interest & speculation are often the fastest way to drive up price and bring others into any coin space, and having more holders would certainly increase the odds of that happening for SLR.


.... like public sign ups/giveaways where you can come download a wallet, and someone with a Whale-size amount of SLR can stake you while you chat with others about Solar related topics, & crypto too  Smiley Cool



We could do this in schools, government buildings, solar related trade shows/expos, crypto events, religious buildings, ect.. you get the idea.



Thoughts?!
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November 18, 2015, 08:05:38 PM
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Would it actually be possible to run a full Solarcoin client on a Raspberry Pi and stake?

I am currently running my node using a 400 Watt PC, and it's starting to show in my power bill :p

yes if you know how to tweak code a bit, but it is hard and not really ready for easy setup unless you just want a challenge.

Probably better to buy a cheap powerbook with a 40gb SSD and run this with Windows 10 or any other OS you can load up... but if you already have the Pi and such it is worth a try for sure
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November 19, 2015, 11:06:13 AM
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Would it actually be possible to run a full Solarcoin client on a Raspberry Pi and stake?

I am currently running my node using a 400 Watt PC, and it's starting to show in my power bill :p

I purchased a mini pc which runs at virtually nothing and I leave it on 24/7 and it's ticking along nicely generating those coins.

You can pick up the new VivoMini UN42 for around £199 UK and this runs at only 6.5w

Here is the link https://www.asus.com/uk/Mini-PCs/VivoMini_UN42/

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November 19, 2015, 06:43:52 PM
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Hm, thanks, it is strange. Because of some problems i removed the data folder and started to synchronize from block 1 on. But i still get the sign "no connections" :/

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Would it actually be possible to run a full Solarcoin client on a Raspberry Pi and stake?

I am currently running my node using a 400 Watt PC, and it's starting to show in my power bill :p

I purchased a mini pc which runs at virtually nothing and I leave it on 24/7 and it's ticking along nicely generating those coins.

You can pick up the new VivoMini UN42 for around £199 UK and this runs at only 6.5w

Here is the link https://www.asus.com/uk/Mini-PCs/VivoMini_UN42/




That is a REALLY cool PC for long term use, but its pricey, is way too powerful for just an SLR Wallet program, & it doesn't even have a monitor that I can see.. here is an HP made laptop that has all you need and arguably runs at an even lower power consumption rate when the screen and all other programs are disabled >>

http://www.amazon.com/HP-11-r010nr-11-6-Inch-Notebook-Processor/dp/B015CQ8SGE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1447958738&sr=1-1&keywords=laptop



Not as cheap as a Pi, but getting there...As notebooks get cheaper and more power efficient I bet we will even see some sold WITH solar panels right out of the box  Smiley
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November 19, 2015, 07:38:41 PM
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We should also be taking steps to distribute some of this coin to the public & those who don't yet know about this so the rub is more fairly distributed to encourage a network effect before claimants enter the space. Some say initial investor interest & speculation are often the fastest way to drive up price and bring others into any coin space, and having more holders would certainly increase the odds of that happening for SLR.


.... like public sign ups/giveaways where you can come download a wallet, and someone with a Whale-size amount of SLR can stake you while you chat with others about Solar related topics, & crypto too  Smiley Cool



We could do this in schools, government buildings, solar related trade shows/expos, crypto events, religious buildings, ect.. you get the idea.



Thoughts?!

Definitely. I think the hardest part is to convince new people that don't know much about cryptocurrency.
It's really important the coins start spreading out a little more.
I have been actively telling my friends about Solarcoin and have given away a few 1000...
Speculators are definitely a great way to attract new users!
Since I live in an apartment I don't have any solar panels.. So i guess Im a speculator then  Grin

I would not mind contributing my stake and give away my earned coins. This would be a lot easier to accomplish if Solarcoin had some kind of setup like NXT has called : ''balance leasing'' 
It enables you to ''give''your staking power to another wallet address. Basically enabling you to ''lease out ''your staking power to other users or another personal wallet. At the same time it increases security because you don't have to leave your main wallet connected to the interent to stake Smiley

I think the part in schools and government buildings is a bit far fetched , but that would be really cool!
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November 19, 2015, 08:33:15 PM
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Would it actually be possible to run a full Solarcoin client on a Raspberry Pi and stake?

I am currently running my node using a 400 Watt PC, and it's starting to show in my power bill :p

I purchased a mini pc which runs at virtually nothing and I leave it on 24/7 and it's ticking along nicely generating those coins.

You can pick up the new VivoMini UN42 for around £199 UK and this runs at only 6.5w

Here is the link https://www.asus.com/uk/Mini-PCs/VivoMini_UN42/




That is a REALLY cool PC for long term use, but its pricey, is way too powerful for just an SLR Wallet program, & it doesn't even have a monitor that I can see.. here is an HP made laptop that has all you need and arguably runs at an even lower power consumption rate when the screen and all other programs are disabled >>

http://www.amazon.com/HP-11-r010nr-11-6-Inch-Notebook-Processor/dp/B015CQ8SGE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1447958738&sr=1-1&keywords=laptop



Not as cheap as a Pi, but getting there...As notebooks get cheaper and more power efficient I bet we will even see some sold WITH solar panels right out of the box  Smiley

Thank you guys! I might just try and run the wallet on a raspberry pi Smiley still a lot cheaper than buying a noteook or a mini pc!
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November 19, 2015, 08:35:10 PM
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How is SLR's difficulty adjusted with POST?

Is it the more coins are staking the more difficult it gets? How is the difficulty calculated otherwise?
I assume it's like that because of bitcoin where the more the difficulty rises the harder it becomes to mine bitcoins...


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Would it actually be possible to run a full Solarcoin client on a Raspberry Pi and stake?

I am currently running my node using a 400 Watt PC, and it's starting to show in my power bill :p

I purchased a mini pc which runs at virtually nothing and I leave it on 24/7 and it's ticking along nicely generating those coins.

You can pick up the new VivoMini UN42 for around £199 UK and this runs at only 6.5w

Here is the link https://www.asus.com/uk/Mini-PCs/VivoMini_UN42/




That is a REALLY cool PC for long term use, but its pricey, is way too powerful for just an SLR Wallet program, & it doesn't even have a monitor that I can see.. here is an HP made laptop that has all you need and arguably runs at an even lower power consumption rate when the screen and all other programs are disabled >>

http://www.amazon.com/HP-11-r010nr-11-6-Inch-Notebook-Processor/dp/B015CQ8SGE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1447958738&sr=1-1&keywords=laptop



Not as cheap as a Pi, but getting there...As notebooks get cheaper and more power efficient I bet we will even see some sold WITH solar panels right out of the box  Smiley

Thank you guys! I might just try and run the wallet on a raspberry pi Smiley still a lot cheaper than buying a noteook or a mini pc!
Im waiting for my PiGrid to arrive I hope when it does I will be able to get SLR on there too which can then stake 24/7

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November 20, 2015, 01:06:27 PM
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How is SLR's difficulty adjusted with POST?

Is it the more coins are staking the more difficult it gets? How is the difficulty calculated otherwise?
I assume it's like that because of bitcoin where the more the difficulty rises the harder it becomes to mine bitcoins...




The white paper explains it: http://www.vericoin.info/downloads/VeriCoinPoSTWhitePaper10May2015.pdf  My crude understanding is that basically diff targets a 1 minute block based on historical submitters capacity to discover the block. however consensus on who's solution is "true" is determined by stake weight, so applying more power to be earlier in solution space or distributing computer power to have the most "solutions" submitted doesn't have a direct impact on the reward space outcome. 

Solarcoin (§ SLR) are like airmiles. Each 1 Mhw generated gets you §1 free. Solarcoins can purchase what others will trade: USD,BTC, Soy candles..etc.
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