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Author Topic: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh)  (Read 432612 times)
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September 27, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
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In addition to that below spendable under staking it says the amount of coins of have plus the ones I am currently staking! that's a little confusing to be honest...
Now under my total it says twice the amount of coins I currently have so yeah something is still wrong!! (i'm hoping this is nothing in the mechanics of solarcoin but rather an error in the way things are being displayed).
Thank you for confirming if this is the same on your wallet


Same here.

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September 27, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
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I found two blocks, (both rather small amounts) however I found the blocks right after restarting the wallet. Sure this is not a coincidence?




I have also experienced this numerous times. finding blocks right after restart.

Also after restart my balance usually updates to the correct amounts.

And we are not the only ones, This is exactly why I wanted more testing done on POST.
There should not be increased chances of finding a block when you restart the wallet.
I think 3 members here already reported this.
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September 27, 2015, 12:24:18 PM
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I found two blocks, (both rather small amounts) however I found the blocks right after restarting the wallet. Sure this is not a coincidence?




I have also experienced this numerous times.

I haven't had this happen though. Then again, I've only restarted my wallet once since yesterday. I haven't received any payments in a while.

Although last night, before bed, I noticed that all of a sudden my wallet said it needed to catch up on over 1000 blocks (I was on block 835,273 at the time). It seemed like somehow my wallet got on the 1.5 chain?  Huh Not sure how that could possibly happen unless whoever started running the 2.0.1 version is trying to subvert those of us running 2.0.3 somehow to get us back on the 1.5 chain.

Anyway, when I got up this morning, I was still in sync to 2.0.3 which is showing block 835,278. Still, it was weird...

FYI, you can see what wallets people are currently running here, the 2.0.1 wallet showed up on that list late yesterday. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/slr/#!network

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September 27, 2015, 12:27:46 PM
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Just restarted my wallet again and guess what i found another small interest block under a minute later. My last block before restart was 6 hours ago. strange

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September 27, 2015, 12:28:03 PM
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I found two blocks, (both rather small amounts) however I found the blocks right after restarting the wallet. Sure this is not a coincidence?




I have also experienced this numerous times.

I haven't had this happen though. Then again, I've only restarted my wallet once since yesterday. I haven't received any payments in a while.

Although last night, before bed, I noticed that all of a sudden my wallet said it needed to catch up on over 1000 blocks (I was on block 835,273 at the time). It seemed like somehow my wallet got on the 1.5 chain?  Huh Not sure how that could possibly happen unless whoever started running the 2.0.1 version is trying to subvert those of us running 2.0.3 somehow to get us back on the 1.5 chain.

Anyway, when I got up this morning, I was still in sync to 2.0.3 which is showing block 835,278. Still, it was weird...

FYI, you can see what wallets people are currently running here, the 2.0.1 wallet showed up on that list late yesterday. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/slr/#!network

I had exactly the same thing happen to my wallet a couple of hours ago. It said in sync and suddenly i had over 1000 blocks to catch up. weird
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September 27, 2015, 12:38:42 PM
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version 2.03 wallet

Another restart and another interest payment about 3 minutes after of about 2 Solarcoins. then wallet freezes and i have to restart 2 times to get it back working.

Update= after 4 restarts and 4 found blocks there is definitly a bug in the wallets and most likely why we don't have 1 block per minute

Update= now it says my wallet is over 2045 blocks behind and is syncing. And now its ok again a few minutes later.

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September 27, 2015, 01:12:23 PM
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What is that 0.8.6 wallet showing on the network list? One node only but it says it's the same protocol as 1.5? Where did it come from?

And 26 wallets are still on 1.5.

Seems like a power struggle is under way here. Can't wait to see who wins! Cheesy


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September 27, 2015, 01:18:14 PM
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Seems like a power struggle is under way here. Can't wait to see who wins! Cheesy



Kinda cool

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September 27, 2015, 01:25:42 PM
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Question 2 again, as well as question 3:

2. On the pop-up box next to the Staking circle we saw numbers for the interest rate going up to only 99%. Were they refering to this same interest rate with a max unsigned integer value of 9223372036854775807?

3. In the first 2 hours of the Vericoin transition to PoST, what was the maximum interest rate achieved?

Question 2 and 3 again, with an additional question 2.1 (from observations on the current 2.0.3 version):

2. On the pop-up box next to the Staking circle we saw numbers for the interest rate going up to only 99%. Were they refering to this same interest rate with a max unsigned integer value of 9223372036854775807?

2.1.  In 2.0.3, a cap of 10% on the interest rate has been introduced, right? The pop-up box next to the Staking circle shows a number for the interest rate going up to 99%, again. Where is this number actually coming from and what does it represent?

3. In the first 2 hours of the Vericoin transition to PoST, what was the maximum interest rate achieved?

Next questions follow, but it is important to have answers for 2 , 2.1, 3 so that I post additional questions on those.

Questions 5,6,7 intro:

Here is what we reached a consensus on (Steve, those were your proposals and reasoning):


I need to confirm that mining is still going on and at what height.  840000 gives me time to sort it out. But yes, if there's consensus to make it 832000 or 833000, I'm ok with issuing a new release.

-Steve


Concerning ending PoW at 840000.  If we leave it at 840000, this gives me time to debug the CryptoID issue, and it gives me time to setup another testnet to verify the changes.

On a personal note, I was supposed to leave on a two day rock climbing trip today. I've postponed it to tomorrow, so that gives me time for a much needed break, and all of the above. Wink

I'm ok with whatever the consensus is, though.

-Steve

PoW mining is not at 840000 yet, so we have not reached the block height agreed upon in the consensus we did have.

Now question 5:
5. How much time do you need to debug and fix the CryptoID issue? Can it be done before PoW block 840000?

Why is this so important: the BlockChain explorer is an integral part of the system. One of the reasons for the concesus we had about block 840000 was that you said you think you will be able to make it work by then. Only when it works everyone can verify the numbers and overlook the network stats, thus control the transition to PoST process. When it doesn't work, the SLR blockchain is practically unoperational for the outside world.

Question 6:
6. How much time is needed for you and the MiningPoolHub to sort out and fix the issue with programmatically transitioning from PoW to PoST?

Question 7:
7. How much time is needed to setup another testnet to verify the changes?

Once again - all these were issues you brought up for solving, and we did have a consensus for block 840000 so that you can have them solved BEFORE the transition to PoST.

Questions 2 and 2.1 have been answered here:

The "Earnable matured interest" in the pop-up box next to the Staking circle is actually the Time-active fraction with range of 0 to 1 (0% to 100%)
Please see pages 6 and 7 of the link below:
http://www.vericoin.info/downloads/VeriCoinPoSTWhitePaper10May2015.pdf

It is a confusing label carried over from VeriCoin.
An attempt will be to display the interest rate if it does not consume to much CPU power.
If not, the confusing label "Earnable matured interest" will be removed.

The missing Question 4 is still expecting the answer to 3.

Question 8:
With version 2.0.1 around, having been downloaded and available for installation, if anyone wants to get on the Lottery-Winning-Train, do they just install 2.0.1 and start staking millions of SLR? Which blockchain should they stick to for better results - the main 1.5 PoW blockchain, or the forked 2.0.3? With no blockchain explorer around, I bet the 2.0.1 version is the way to go if anyone wants to get into the billions of SLR within a day or two, without being noticed.
So here is my question 8:
8. DO YOU GET IT NOW?

 Cool Edit: Any further code changes to PoST implementation MUST FIRST ensure 2.0.1 will not be allowed to stake on the blockchain.

FYI: current SLR main (PoW) blockchain block height: 837905
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September 27, 2015, 01:51:00 PM
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Just restarted my wallet again and guess what i found another small interest block under a minute later. My last block before restart was 6 hours ago. strange

Just letting you know that I haven't experienced this on either machine, after restarting both wallets... was worth a shot Wink
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September 27, 2015, 02:03:19 PM
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Just restarted my wallet again and guess what i found another small interest block under a minute later. My last block before restart was 6 hours ago. strange

Just letting you know that I haven't experienced this on either machine, after restarting both wallets... was worth a shot Wink

Maybe it is because i have a large stake. Grin

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September 27, 2015, 02:05:40 PM
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The missing Question 4 is still expecting the answer to 3.

Question 8:
With version 2.0.1 around, having been downloaded and available for installation, if anyone wants to get on the Lottery-Winning-Train, do they just install 2.0.1 and start staking millions of SLR? Which blockchain should they stick to for better results - the main 1.5 PoW blockchain, or the forked 2.0.3? With no blockchain explorer around, I bet the 2.0.1 version is the way to go if anyone wants to get into the billions of SLR within a day or two, without being noticed.
So here is my question 8:
8. DO YOU GET IT NOW?

 Cool Edit: Any further code changes to PoST implementation MUST FIRST ensure 2.0.1 will not be allowed to stake on the blockchain.

FYI: current SLR main (PoW) blockchain block height: 837905

Just want to keep this post from disappearing. So more people can "get it".  Kiss

Nice sunglasses by the way.

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September 27, 2015, 03:02:34 PM
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I just installed the client but how will I be able to transfer my coins from my old wallet to the new one?

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September 27, 2015, 03:09:21 PM
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What is the safest way to upgrade. I'm just seeing the mandatory upgrade.

Right now, there is only one sure option to still keep the SLR blockchain safe - running version 1.5
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September 27, 2015, 03:14:12 PM
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What is the safest way to upgrade. I'm just seeing the mandatory upgrade.

According to this: http://solarcoin.org/en/2414-2/ If you still are running 1.5 then,

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Install SolarCoin v2.0.3 ASAP

Posted on 09/22/2015

Urgent!  Install SolarCoin v2.0.3 ASAP. Many more coins in v2.0.1 were being created from staking than intended leading to an inflationary scenario.

INSTALL NOTES:

Existing users – Log into wallet> Go to Help menu>Check for Update>Download update

New Users – Visit www.solarcoin.org>Go to Download a SolarCoin wallet section>Click on your OS button and install wallet

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September 27, 2015, 03:15:25 PM
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What is the safest way to upgrade. I'm just seeing the mandatory upgrade.

According to this: http://solarcoin.org/en/2414-2/ If you still are running 1.5 then,

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Install SolarCoin v2.0.3 ASAP

Posted on 09/22/2015

Urgent!  Install SolarCoin v2.0.3 ASAP. Many more coins in v2.0.1 were being created from staking than intended leading to an inflationary scenario.

INSTALL NOTES:

Existing users – Log into wallet> Go to Help menu>Check for Update>Download update

New Users – Visit www.solarcoin.org>Go to Download a SolarCoin wallet section>Click on your OS button and install wallet


I assume you would shut down the 1.5 wallet first and back-up your wallet.dat file to a safe place before installing the new version.

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September 27, 2015, 04:03:06 PM
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The missing Question 4 is still expecting the answer to 3.

Question 8:
With version 2.0.1 around, having been downloaded and available for installation, if anyone wants to get on the Lottery-Winning-Train, do they just install 2.0.1 and start staking millions of SLR? Which blockchain should they stick to for better results - the main 1.5 PoW blockchain, or the forked 2.0.3? With no blockchain explorer around, I bet the 2.0.1 version is the way to go if anyone wants to get into the billions of SLR within a day or two, without being noticed.
So here is my question 8:
8. DO YOU GET IT NOW?

 Cool Edit: Any further code changes to PoST implementation MUST FIRST ensure 2.0.1 will not be allowed to stake on the blockchain.

FYI: current SLR main (PoW) blockchain block height: 837905

Just want to keep this post from disappearing. So more people can "get it".  Kiss

Nice sunglasses by the way.

Bump..

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September 27, 2015, 04:05:25 PM
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Has anyone else noticed upon restarting the client it doesn't always start staking right away.
Now my wallet says IN SYNC, EARNING STAKE TIME.
I assume I have to wait until the next block is found until it starts staking? or why does it say that. I would have thought I don't need to ear stake time since I have already been staking since a few hours
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September 27, 2015, 04:09:17 PM
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And just one more question. Why does my spendable amount change all the time, now I could not even spend 99% of my coins. (it says spendable: 0.55 SLR)

I should always be able to spend the coins I already have, this is very confusing..
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September 27, 2015, 04:10:17 PM
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Thanks it looks like when I installed it picked up on my old wallet.  It is syncing right now and i'm seeing my transactions showing up.  Seems that I didn't have to do anything.

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