[XDN] DarkNote. Anonymous 100% PoW CPU+Untraceable Crypto Messages+GUI Client!

[Digithusiast]

No problems, we can have different views about this.

I think we are forgetting 1 Satoshi is already only 0.00000001 Bitcoin -> That is 1 Bitcoin divided by ONE-HUNDRED-MILLION.

At this moment 1 Satoshi is worth USD 0.0000040561

For 1 Dollar (or 1 Euro) we use 1 cent as the smallest division in daily life and expenses. That is 1 Dollar being 1 divided by ONE HUNDRED.

For a coin to become a serious alternative for fiat money, it should work its way up to a value of approx. 1 cent or more.

If a coin positions its value (or gets its value) below 1 Satoshi level, I fear it will be extremely difficult to become a coin of any importance in the future.

[dNote]

We are happy to announce v 0.97beta of DarkNote GUI client. MAC version included!
Lots of small improvements and fixes, and the main work was about MAC mining.
Please, test it.

DarkNote GUI Windows 64 Client

http://darknote.cc/sites/darknote.cc/files/darknotewallet_64.exe
Mirror Mega - https://mega.co.nz/#!rpBzVBpJ!TmLIBpBJHn8fSISwCliYoxBJNATRa45LjQIQEByj9OM

DarkNote GUI Windows 32 Client

http://darknote.cc/sites/darknote.cc/files/darknotewallet_32.exe
Mirror Mega - https://mega.co.nz/#!v1JEzAAA!_fRZrhEQMspO4WoLCh6_YzIwq_opoBYYNOrVOGc6nh0

DarkNote Client GUI for MAC

http://darknote.cc/sites/darknote.cc/files/darknotewallet.zip
Mirror Mega - https://mega.co.nz/#!L8xkSIJK!tge6Cb19kHTp8mjndNXJWnnMrIZ9Uf7qM_p80hWjH_k

[dNote]

this isnt a fork, correct? im mining xdn, does that mean im mining darknote now, not ducknote?

XDN=duckNote=DarkNote

duckNote was just a step. Network is the same, no fork.

[jwinterm]

2. Imagine, mathematicians, economists, programmers, philosophers and media veterans with strongest knowledge are making some effort to make really fairly launched cryptocurrency that is focused on real economy markets.

Thank you for the in depth response. Since you're the only dev, are you saying that you're a mathematician, economist, programmer, philosopher, and media veteran? Seems like a lot of roles to play.

Also, while I agree with your logic to some extent about resisting asics by having a front loaded distribution, I'm sorry, but I think it's just way too extreme to disburse half of all coins that will ever exist in the first month when there was a minuscule hash rate.

1. I never said i am the only dev. I mentioned many times that XDN DarkNote developers team is a "team of teams". And it is decentralized, XDN has supporters and
developers from around the World.   
2. To be fair and honest and to avoid any misunderstandings XDN announce was at the same second as first block was generated. Being true it was a BIG surprise to see hashrate going to the sky, just after launch. XDN had more than 40 000 000 difficulty in first hours after launch.  Also first month we promoted XDN very active and asked people to mine it, we explained Economy and logic.
3. In recent months we can see millions of XDN on exchanges offered for extremely low prices. Almost any person can own some, even without mining.

To the sky? In the first month (June), when more than 3B coins were emitted, almost half of all coins that will ever exist, the hashrate was on average less than 200 kh/s ( https://minergate.com/chart/duck ), while Monero averaged out to be 5-10 Mh/s, or more than 20x greater over the same time period (even though half of all XMR won't be emitted until at least sometime next year). You guys couldn't even muster up more hash than the scamtacular bytecoin over the month of June, which was about 300-400 kh/s on average.

[kkraus69]

DuckNote had a very fair launch. In the future, some of the early miners will be able to make a lot of money. Good for them. The fact is, when coins are sold on the exchange, their are buyers wanting to buy them on the other side. What we have here is a good team of people standing behind this cryptocurrency which has a very bright future just like other cryptocurrencies out there. All of the digital currencies put together including Bitcoin, have a market capitalization which is tiny compared to that of fiat money. Billions of crypto-coins are really nothing when you look at the trillions of corrupted fiat dollars out their. We are all in this together and we are all early adapters who need to stick together while riding this radical changeover of fiat dollars over to the  decentralized blockchain world.

I have nothing but good things to say about DarkNote and it's growing team of supporters. Jwinterm, if you would have mined XDN from the beginning like you had the chance to, I don't think you would be intentionally spreading FUD. It is my opinion that you are jealous of not being an initial adapter and want to hurt DarkNote. Are you looking for a get rich quick scheme? I hope this is not true. Try investing in some XDN off an exchange and hold them. It doesn't have to be much but you should see a good return on your investment. I'm jealous of the Bitcoin early adapters who found blocks on their own with their CPUs but am also happy for them and would do nothing but praise them for being there from the start. Why wouldn't they deserve to ride the wave if they decided to hold their Bitcoins? There are a lot of good people working on a lot of good cryptos and I think time is better spent educating the people who pay their banks crazy fees because their hydro payment was returned the day after monthly account fees caused them to be $1.50 short. I used to be one of these people. In five years from now when XDN is worth $100 each compared to the new IMF dollar (no more USD) and gold worth $20,000 per ounce, everyone who stuck with DarkNote in it's initial years, will be well off.

 

[jwinterm]

It's not FUD. There's no fear, uncertainty, or doubt about it. More than half of all coins were mined when ducknote had a lower hashrate than any other Crytponote coin (except maybe quazar or fantomcoin which are dead/dying), even lower than the obvious scam bytecoin.

[kkraus69]

Edit

It's not FUD. There's no fear, uncertainty, or doubt about it. More than half of all coins were mined when ducknote had a lower hashrate than any other Crytponote coin (except maybe quazar or fantomcoin which are dead/dying), even lower than the obvious scam bytecoin.

Whatever.., we all see what you are trying to insinuate. All we have to do is look into your history. Read my last post again and let's move on. I would hope we are all here trying to better the crypto-universe, not argue within the community.

How has the hashrate changed after one half of the Bitcoin supply was mined? The average person involved in cryptocurrencies can't even mine Bitcoin. That is definitely different with DarkNote. The amount of people who don't have Bitcoins compared to those who do, is huge. We need to look at this on a global scale and what the future holds. We need to educate the people.

Bitcoin halved before I even knew about it. I'm not complaining, however, I still support it.

[joewills]

I think marketing is very very important.
So far,the support of XDN seems less and less.
Although the roadmap and mac client have launched successful,The price is still so low.

[tricass]

I transferred nearly 400K xdn to my bittrex account from the simplewallet about 24 hours ago and it hasn't arrived yet.  What did I miss?  Thanks

I believe that most of the exchanges have suspended deposits and transfers of all CN(Cryptonote) based coins due the attack in XMR by BitcoinEXpress(BCX). Although Poloniex made an announcement, BITtrex has not. I would suggest sending a support ticket.

If the above is false, did you include a Payment ID with your deposit?

24Kilo

Thanks, 24Kilo.  Yes, I just now sent a support request and included the Payment ID and Base Address info that Bittrex uses to process the transaction.  Guess I'll wait to see what Bittrex can do.  

do you see the transaction in the blockchain? if not, it could have been rejected due to being too big. you can restore from a backup wallet before the transaction and it should still be there in the wallet.

I initially did see it in the block chain and then I didn't.  Couldn't find a backup wallet so I rebuilt the old one and my balance is back to normal with the 400K XDN.  Thank you for your help, tricass.

Edit:  New problem.  Now it says I can't send from my wallet, "used already spent key images"

Are you using the latest DarkNote client GUI or simplewallet?

"used already spent key images" means that you tried to make transaction and probably it is still in TX pool. If it will be rejected you will have your XDN back, or it can be included in block.

i had a similar problem with the simplewallet when sending large transactions that were eventually rejected. the wallet never sees those funds again though and needs to be rebuilt. if they are still not showing up in the wallet after waiting a day, then redownload the blockchain and using the backup version of the wallet refresh the wallet, and then try sending out the funds again with a small amount like 1000 and then 10000 and then greater.

[dNote]

It's not FUD. There's no fear, uncertainty, or doubt about it. More than half of all coins were mined when ducknote had a lower hashrate than any other Crytponote coin (except maybe quazar or fantomcoin which are dead/dying), even lower than the obvious scam bytecoin.

1. There is NO matter what hashrate was! The matter is the number of initial ordinary XDN workers and miners.

You should understand the fact - hashrate and difficulty is nothing if coin is mined by 2-3 Huge miners.
Each day, each coin has determinate coins amount mined. E.G. currently XDN has ~ 360blocksPer24Hour*40000XDN_blockReward=14400000 XDN/day. And this value will stay just about that amount until next halving, and neither difficulty of network hashrate can change it. Because network is scalable.

The main thing about duckNote XDN = DarkNote XDN is the number of initial miners. and coin units of value decentralization among ordinary users.

DarkNote XDN has a perfect decentralization not only because of biggest workers/miners number since the blockchain start in all CN coins, but because of reasons described bellow.

2. duck->Dark quantum was planned long time ago. duck phase was made to spread the hashrate, coins and information among ordinary users with low hashrate. Also we worked on GUI, and presented first HTML-only GUI wrapper for simplewallet. Bruce asked you "don't concentrate on the finger".

3. XDN was and is presented on major exchanges since the early beginning. duckNote XDN = DarkNote XDN is and was widely traded, with really huge cumulative month and daily volumes and giant number of trades with hundreds of thousands small trades. If you don`t want to believe all army of miners who mined XDN since the first blocks, you should notice, that there was thousands of trades that decentralized XDN units of value among Worldwide users.

4. XDN has the most honest, fair and public launch among all cryptocurrencies, announce was made at the time of 1st block generation on major cryptocurrency resources, including bitcointalk. There was no time to prepare for huge miners.

5. In fact, not theory XDN has the most successful launch among all CN coins, because thousands of miners joined network on the 100-200 block height. You can`t find other CN coin with so fast hashrate rising with so many small workers since the beginning. Please, explore XDN initial hashrate  expanding.

6. XDN if a perfect example of libertarian economy, major coins are in circulation, so people can use it. That is it. Decentralization. It is hard to influence DarkNote network now and value of XDN units of value can`t be manipulated by miners, only the decision of miners matters, but not their price manipulation.

7. You should learn the basics of cryptocurrencies, its philosophical and economic aspect, it is not about prices and gold rush mining, it is about freedom and future of how people act.

P.S. We are working on incredibly major stuff.

[kkraus69]

+100 dNote
edit:

and +100 DarkNote

[MoneroMooo]

We post XDN DarkNote RoadMap:

A few mistakes in that graphic that you'll want to correct:

- merchatns (on the first image, on the bottom right)
- XDN massives (not sure what you wanted to say here ?)
- to your or your -> to you or your
- implementstions -> implementations (or even without the final s)
- interraction -> interaction
- scratching -> not sure what you wanted to say here either, it sounds weird :p
- proved spending -> I think "provable" is better here, but subjective
- messanging -> messaging
- ask you questions -> ask your questions
- spread xdn infromation -> spread xdn information
- tell your friend -> tell your friends


Well done on all the impressive work!    _o<

[MoneroMooo]

subtoshi.com has ducknote listed on their exchange - fyi  

interesting concept to beable to trade beyond the 8 decimal place limit

Sorry, but I disagree. XDN should not be listed there. If your coin is 37 sat and going strong on Bittrex, why the heck would you want it to be listed on a subsatoshi exchange. XDN roadmap is not heading for peanuts and subsatoshi, XDN is heading for a professional way ahead and a strong increase in value.

Why not ? If it affords a way for people to set their buy and sell orders with more granularity that the current 3% or so, it seems like a good thing. You do not have to use it if you do not want to. Other exchanges such as Poloniex still trades the majority of the volume anyway so you don't lose anything if you don't want to use this new exchange.

[dNote]

+100 dNote
edit:

and +100 DarkNote

Thank you 

[dNote]

We post XDN DarkNote RoadMap:

A few mistakes in that graphic that you'll want to correct:

- merchatns (on the first image, on the bottom right)
- XDN massives (not sure what you wanted to say here ?)
- to your or your -> to you or your
- implementstions -> implementations (or even without the final s)
- interraction -> interaction
- scratching -> not sure what you wanted to say here either, it sounds weird :p
- proved spending -> I think "provable" is better here, but subjective
- messanging -> messaging
- ask you questions -> ask your questions
- spread xdn infromation -> spread xdn information
- tell your friend -> tell your friends


Well done on all the impressive work!    _o<

uuups,  Done, sorry for inconvenience.

[arnuschky]

We are happy to announce v 0.97beta of DarkNote GUI client. MAC version included!
Lots of small improvements and fixes, and the main work was about MAC mining.
Please, test it.

DarkNote GUI Windows 64 Client

http://darknote.cc/sites/darknote.cc/files/darknotewallet_64.exe
Mirror Mega - https://mega.co.nz/#!rpBzVBpJ!TmLIBpBJHn8fSISwCliYoxBJNATRa45LjQIQEByj9OM

DarkNote GUI Windows 32 Client

http://darknote.cc/sites/darknote.cc/files/darknotewallet_32.exe
Mirror Mega - https://mega.co.nz/#!v1JEzAAA!_fRZrhEQMspO4WoLCh6_YzIwq_opoBYYNOrVOGc6nh0

DarkNote Client GUI for MAC

http://darknote.cc/sites/darknote.cc/files/darknotewallet.zip
Mirror Mega - https://mega.co.nz/#!L8xkSIJK!tge6Cb19kHTp8mjndNXJWnnMrIZ9Uf7qM_p80hWjH_k

Is this still all closed-source?

[jwinterm]

It's not FUD. There's no fear, uncertainty, or doubt about it. More than half of all coins were mined when ducknote had a lower hashrate than any other Crytponote coin (except maybe quazar or fantomcoin which are dead/dying), even lower than the obvious scam bytecoin.

1. There is NO matter what hashrate was! The matter is the number of initial ordinary XDN workers and miners.

You're the one who brought up how the hashrate was to the moon/sky:

 
2. To be fair and honest and to avoid any misunderstandings XDN announce was at the same second as first block was generated. Being true it was a BIG surprise to see hashrate going to the sky, just after launch. XDN had more than 40 000 000 difficulty in first hours after launch.  Also first month we promoted XDN very active and asked people to mine it, we explained Economy and logic.

The hashrate didn't go to the sky and there wasn't a lot of miners, unless they were all mining at 1 h/s, which seems quite unlikely. More likely is that a few people sucked up half of all the coins that will ever exist. Sounds like a great way to start a new economy - give half of all the money that will ever exist to 10 or 100 people. Oh wait, that sounds like NXT or some other bullshit distribution PoS coin. Good luck with your new features.

[Digithusiast]

Is there a XDN richlist available?

For most coins it is the case the top 10 or top 100 wallets hold over 90% of the coins.
In the beginning of duckNote I mined tens of millions XDN as mining was a piece of cake.
Once XDN hit Bittrex I sold them all for 5 sat.

Those who bought XDN at that time made a smart move. Also the miners that mined early and held their coins, were smart to do so.
We can not blame them neither can we blame DarkNote if a few people currently hold a big piece of the XDN cake.
At this time I am buying back in as I hold high expectations of DarkNote.

[Digithusiast]

@dNote

In a new wallet version, could you please change the order in which the transactions are shown in History? It is much better if the latest transactions are at the top, instead of at the bottom of the list. Thanks.

[dNote]

@dNote

In a new wallet version, could you please change the order in which the transactions are shown in History? It is much better if the latest transactions are at the top, instead of at the bottom of the list. Thanks.

Thank you, please post your request here http://darknotetalk.org