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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2435 blocks  (Read 5350137 times)
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March 02, 2015, 12:16:18 AM
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I restarted ckdb 10 minutes ago - no affect on mining, just some updates on the web site.
There's now 2 new pages: showing your last 99 shifts and the payments for each block (including future payments for blocks already found)
I've also added a 3rd mining payouts page but it's not working right, so I'm working on fixing that now and will have it working as soon as I resolve that.
Great Work I like the shifts names just finished one ending in "oregami"
Fixed the mining payouts page now also.
It's available under Account->MPayouts

Looks as if you have been very busy, do you ever sleep? Nice additions, and appreciated. Thanks.

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March 02, 2015, 12:18:24 AM
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I restarted ckdb 10 minutes ago - no affect on mining, just some updates on the web site.
There's now 2 new pages: showing your last 99 shifts and the payments for each block (including future payments for blocks already found)
I've also added a 3rd mining payouts page but it's not working right, so I'm working on fixing that now and will have it working as soon as I resolve that.
Great Work I like the shifts names just finished one ending in "oregami"
Fixed the mining payouts page now also.
It's available under Account->MPayouts

This is good stuff!! Nice job!
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March 02, 2015, 02:22:57 AM
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Payout 345056 sent
add460813e348dd2b639e184303d58bf34632f36a2cebf92f5b67bdc8ed6aaf7
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thank you
... and the code to allow me to add web pages to show that on the web site is very close to completion (it's in testing) Smiley
Although the information has always been there, I'm completing adding in the summarisation of that information into the appropriate tables so that web requests will be quick and thus possible.
Once testing is completed and I put it live, I'll then work on adding more web pages to show payout/payment/performance details.


As a new miner I would appreciate some better stats for payout/payment/performance. I have tried to figure out the payment system and I am totally lost. The guy I bought my miner from said to use this pool, so I am sticking with it. Right now I have been mining for 2 days @1.5Th and have recieved $1.16. I am hoping this keeps going up otherwise the math ain't working. Trying to hang in there.
I restarted ckdb 10 minutes ago - no affect on mining, just some updates on the web site.
There's now 2 new pages: showing your last 99 shifts and the payments for each block (including future payments for blocks already found)
I've also added a 3rd mining payouts page but it's not working right, so I'm working on fixing that now and will have it working as soon as I resolve that.

Thanks for the updates.  I am liking this!  Now lets find a block or 2!

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March 02, 2015, 03:27:32 AM
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Payout 345662 sent
9268f4b5d07be8debb98faf159a82d48fdf6110e84e66aed132045415eeb407d
and confirmed

That will match your payout on the top of the mining payouts page Smiley (and the top of the payments page)
... for all except people who mined 'dust'.

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March 02, 2015, 09:36:37 AM
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Payout 345662 sent
9268f4b5d07be8debb98faf159a82d48fdf6110e84e66aed132045415eeb407d
and confirmed

That will match your payout on the top of the mining payouts page Smiley (and the top of the payments page)
... for all except people who mined 'dust'.

mining dust? someones gotta broom up the mess them big guns leave behind :<
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March 02, 2015, 01:20:11 PM
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Payout 345662 sent
9268f4b5d07be8debb98faf159a82d48fdf6110e84e66aed132045415eeb407d
and confirmed

That will match your payout on the top of the mining payouts page Smiley (and the top of the payments page)
... for all except people who mined 'dust'.

mining dust? someones gotta broom up the mess them big guns leave behind :<
The MPayouts page shows all payouts - dust inclusive.

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March 02, 2015, 05:10:57 PM
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Payout 345662 sent
9268f4b5d07be8debb98faf159a82d48fdf6110e84e66aed132045415eeb407d
and confirmed

That will match your payout on the top of the mining payouts page Smiley (and the top of the payments page)
... for all except people who mined 'dust'.

mining dust? someones gotta broom up the mess them big guns leave behind :<
The MPayouts page shows all payouts - dust inclusive.

Kano,
I really like the updates you have done to the web page.
You always put such a lot of effort into the pool. I guess you must sleep some time - maybe.
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March 03, 2015, 12:18:17 AM
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OK, lets get the blocks poppin! Shocked

Hey Kano, great work on the site. I enjoy all sorts of stats, but the shift names are right on the mark.

I checked out http://ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com/ and it has some great things as well. I need to work with it to figure out how to see my personal stats but I like being able to save off the charts in various formats. GG Zach


So I'm teaching myself linux, or a better description is I loaded it on a lappy and run it alongside win7 dual boot. I want to learn, and the way I have learned everything is by picking a project, researching, and asking lots of questions. If anyone has a good site they think would be sincerely helpful for an Ubuntu n00bcake such as myself I would appreciate it. My first project is learning to secure a linux station, but the next and real one I am looking forward to is setting up CKproxy. It sounds like it makes the most sense to point all miners at once and things like it. Not that I move them, but other than M's miner monitor I haven't found any "mining software" which is open source, will run more than a few miners without paying first and supports some other things. I'm not Mr. Cheapo who doesn't want to pay for software but I do not like giving up more total % as many require, or $100 USD to run 12 miners before you even get to check out the real features.

I ran on from ckproxy to miner software but I understand CKproxy isn't mining software, it happens that CKproxy has features miner control software does.

Back to work for me and again, GJ on the site Kano!   

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March 03, 2015, 12:58:50 AM
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Payout 345662 sent
9268f4b5d07be8debb98faf159a82d48fdf6110e84e66aed132045415eeb407d
and confirmed

That will match your payout on the top of the mining payouts page Smiley (and the top of the payments page)
... for all except people who mined 'dust'.

mining dust? someones gotta broom up the mess them big guns leave behind :<
The MPayouts page shows all payouts - dust inclusive.

well, i was joking, but hey, more data for the server to chew on Wink
i was trying to work out what you men't by dust, other then the handful of miners pulling a few satoshis here and there..
but you men't the few satoshis that the mining doesn't get counted?

just K.I.S.S. Cheesy
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March 03, 2015, 01:12:37 AM
Last edit: March 03, 2015, 01:30:51 AM by kano
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Payout 345662 sent
9268f4b5d07be8debb98faf159a82d48fdf6110e84e66aed132045415eeb407d
and confirmed

That will match your payout on the top of the mining payouts page Smiley (and the top of the payments page)
... for all except people who mined 'dust'.

mining dust? someones gotta broom up the mess them big guns leave behind :<
The MPayouts page shows all payouts - dust inclusive.

well, i was joking, but hey, more data for the server to chew on Wink
i was trying to work out what you men't by dust, other then the handful of miners pulling a few satoshis here and there..
but you men't the few satoshis that the mining doesn't get counted?

just K.I.S.S. Cheesy
Anyone who mines less than 10,000 satoshi in a payout, doesn't get that in the payment transaction I send out, but it shows on the MPayout page.
It's kept in the wallet but also known in the payout information so that at some future stage I'll add a way to send the dust out once it's clumped into dust bunnies big enough to be paid - which I'm sure there are a few accounts like that already.

FYI: The total dust collected since the pool started is ~0.25BTC however that also includes any payouts that didn't become payments due to an account not having a payout address at the time of the payment.
Again, they are all there on the MPayouts page, Paid, Dust and Unpaid.
Verifying the 'Payments' and identifying which 'Payouts' haven't been paid is still on the todo list - that just currently involves processing the bitcoin transactions from the payment address: 1KzFJddTvK9TQWsmWFKYJ9fRx9QeSATyrT which is all also stored in the blockchain for the payments made.

Edit: oh there is also some satoshi left over after each payout sent out coz I round everything down in the code.
On average each payment line loses 0.5 satoshi
It's a small amount but also simplifies the process of generating the payment transaction to ensure it doesn't exceed the amount in 1KzFJddTvK9TQWsmWFKYJ9fRx9QeSATyrT since that is a hard limit that cannot be exceeded in the payout that normal rounding can cause.
Think of it as, you average 0.9% + 0.5 satoshi per payment Tongue
The 0.5 satoshis just collects in the wallet also, with the dust. One day in the distant future all those 0.5s may total 1c Cheesy

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March 03, 2015, 06:19:50 AM
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All those who sent sacrifices to the block Gods ... finally worked.
Another block has arrived thanks to canaan - and charlotte was the shift it was found in Smiley

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March 03, 2015, 08:53:18 AM
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All those who sent sacrifices to the block Gods ... finally worked.
Another block has arrived thanks to canaan - and charlotte was the shift it was found in Smiley

Ah, finally a little more than dust for some of us. That was another long drawn out block maybe lady luck will visit us again soon. I suggest all of the rounding dust collected be put back into supporting the pool running costs. Anyone else have a suggestion?
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March 03, 2015, 12:08:30 PM
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Nah, the rounding dust is worthless until BTC hits $100,000 Cheesy

But the block Gods have blessed us again - another one - this time 44% Smiley
(and confirmed)

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March 03, 2015, 12:46:04 PM
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Nah, the rounding dust is worthless until BTC hits $100,000 Cheesy

But the block Gods have blessed us again - another one - this time 44% Smiley
(and confirmed)

Yayyy canaan!!   Cheesy


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March 03, 2015, 01:12:58 PM
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I checked out http://ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com/ and it has some great things as well. I need to work with it to figure out how to see my personal stats but I like being able to save off the charts in various formats. GG Zach

If you need help setting things up or if there are other things you would like to see on there, let me know.
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March 03, 2015, 02:38:35 PM
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I just joined your pool with 2 Ant S3+'s to try it out.
SHoudl I leave the difficulty at '0' for automatic adjustment or change it to 256 for the S3's?

Thanks!

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March 03, 2015, 02:40:34 PM
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do auto adjustment it settles around 325 or 330

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March 03, 2015, 05:59:16 PM
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Using the info from the new MPayouts page I did a spreadsheet to see how well my WestHash switching thresholds were working with the PPLNS here.  I ran the numbers for February 14-28 to exclude the first week of winding up here.  During this time I had 4 miners set to switch to WestHash at different percentages: 2%-4%-6%-10%.

The intention was to improve variance by having a low fee PPS mixed in with the PPLNS, but the combination actually appears to have greatly increased my variance.  There was a consistent trend that all of the good blocks here always followed a long period of my miners being on WestHash.  I expected this to average out (to have an equal number of good switchovers as bad ones), but it never did.  Granted my sample was small (14 days-- plus the ramp up week before the sample remains consistent as well), but there is also a possible variable which makes it hard to treat as a closed system.  That variable is others renting from WH to point at this pool.  The exact interaction here is complicated and is beyond my ability to calculate, but I almost certainly was mistaken in treating the two pools as completely unrelated for my purposes of switching.

Anyway, bottom line, had I been 100% full time on this pool, I would have earned ~0.192 BTC more than I did by switching on/off WestHash.  Had I been 100% on WestHash I would have earned more than switching here as well, but not as well as being here full time (though this is difficult to calculate precisely).   So, at least at the low levels I set and during the time span I tested, it is not beneficial at all to switch on/off WH with PPLNS like I used to do with PPS on BAN.  Speaking of BAN, despite my bad luck in settings I still earned slightly more here than I did with BAN previously... not sure how that happened.

You will be seeing a lot more hash rate from me on this pool.  I just adjusted my thresholds to 6%-9%-12%-15% so that I spend a lot less time at WestHash.  I'm going to regroup around the next diff change and will probably bump them up more then as well.




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March 03, 2015, 09:09:14 PM
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More block God goodness - 30min ago - just before I woke up Smiley
Nice %66.06 block found by a new ~8THs user
(valentina shift)

Edit: on the todo list is to add a count of the number of times a shift is paid - since each payout pays a list of shifts so a counter is easy to add.
I can probably also easily work out the PPS % each share in the shift has been paid.
Those 2 numbers are the same for all pool shares in a single shift - and they will go up until the shift ends up outside the 5N PPLNS limit.
... not a high priority todo item but should get it done soon.
I spent yesterday working out how to actually do the CDF(Erlang Distribution) then decided to use gsf as organofcorti told me a while back ... so I'll be adding a new table, probably at the top of the blocks page, with block range means, CDF, %, Luck etc
... and another block God delivery just now after I edited ... less than 7% Smiley ... awaiting confirm

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March 03, 2015, 09:16:21 PM
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More block God goodness - 30min ago - just before I woke up Smiley
Nice %66.06 block found by a new ~8THs user
(valentina shift)

Edit: on the todo list is to add a count of the number of times a shift is paid - since each payout pays a list of shifts so a counter is easy to add.
I can probably also easily work out the PPS % each share in the shift has been paid.
Those 2 numbers are the same for all pool shares in a single shift - and they will go up until the shift ends up outside the 5N PPLNS limit.
... not a high priority todo item but should get it done soon.
I spent yesterday working out how to actually do the CDF(Erlang Distribution) then decided to use gsf as organofcorti told me a while back ... so I'll be adding a new table, probably at the top of the blocks page, with block range means, CDF, %, Luck etc
... and another block God delivery just now after I edited ... less than 7% Smiley ... awaiting confirm

Kano HAT trick 3 green blocks!

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