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October 03, 2015, 10:54:42 AM
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MINNIE: loves->likes->tolerates

MICKEY: What?!!

MINNIE: Alice loves Bob.
 {?x loves ?y} => {?x likes ?y}.
 {?x likes ?y} => {?x tolerates ?y}.
  fin.
 query
 ?who tolerates ?who else
 fin.  


MICKEY: So Are you now coding too, Alice...!!!

MINNIE: No, just copy&paste, Bob.  

 
04:57 < HMC_Alph> loves->likes->tolerates
04:57 < HMC_Alph> for example
04:58 < HMC_Alph> does einstein work? :-)
05:01 < stoopkid> like this? :
05:01 < stoopkid> kb
05:01 < stoopkid> Alice loves Bob.
05:01 < stoopkid> {?x loves ?y} => {?x likes ?y}.
05:01 < stoopkid> {?x likes ?y} => {?x tolerates ?y}.
05:01 < stoopkid> fin.
05:01 < stoopkid> query
05:01 < stoopkid> ?who tolerates ?whoelse
05:01 < stoopkid> fin.
05:01 < HMC_Alph> sure, does that work?
05:01 < stoopkid> yes
05:01 < stoopkid> Alice does indeed tolerate Bob.
05:01 < HMC_Alph> einstein?
05:01 < HMC_Alph> hungry germans?
05:03 < stoopkid> einstein does not work
05:03 < stoopkid> but it compiles
05:03 < HMC_Alph> ok.  what's the current smallest failing test?
05:04 < stoopkid> besides transitivity and symmetry?
05:04 < HMC_Alph> in general
05:04 < stoopkid> A causes B. B causes C. {?x causes ?y. ?y causes ?z} => {?x causes ?z}
05:05 < stoopkid> A equals B. {?x equals ?y} => {? equals ?x}
05:05 < stoopkid> those infloop on compilation
05:06 < stoopkid> i guess symmetry would be the smallest failing test
05:06 < stoopkid> i can't think of anything that would be smaller and fail
05:08 < HMC_Alph> anything larger that is not recursive?
05:09 < HMC_Alph> or are all of the fails cases of recursion?
05:10 < stoopkid> examples/cnf failed
05:12 < stoopkid> anything i should try in particular?
05:12 < stoopkid> it works on some boolean logic i constructed
05:14 < HMC_Alph> cnf not working is interesting
05:14 < HMC_Alph> can you try to reduce that case to a small test?
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05:20 < stoopkid> ah koo7 said there might be something buggy with the lists still
05:22 < HMC_Alph> sure, so maybe some simpler list tests to try to narrow that down?
05:22 < HMC_Alph> i'm going to look over the recursion for ep check
05:26 < stoopkid> yea a simpler 2 var cnf also doesn't work
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05:41 < stoopkid> maybe since we're on example-making we should go over the DRTs stuff as well
05:56 < HMC_Alph> well the recursion problem isn't quite ep check...
05:57 < HMC_Alph> the recursion is in compile and ep check is at runtime
05:59 < HMC_Alph> ok, so let's start with simple recursion... like your causes example
06:01 < HMC_Alph> the function that gives you the coroutine should be called by those coroutine instances...
06:02 < stoopkid> hm true
06:02 < stoopkid> i thought we fixed that, guess not
06:02 < HMC_Alph> it is not quite a recursive lambda in the c++...
06:04 < HMC_Alph> it is an outer lambda with a self capture that returns an inner lambda which captures the captured outer lambda... and which calls it when called...
06:05 < HMC_Alph> the outer lambda is the python foo function itself, the unner lambda is the actual coro function that python hides fron you
06:06 < HMC_Alph> those inner coro functions call *foo* (the outer) if they are recursive... to get a new coroutine instance... they don't call their own coro re-entry point. ;-)
06:07 < HMC_Alph> follow?
06:07 < stoopkid> yea i follow that i'm just trying to figure out where in the C++ we're going wrong
06:08 < HMC_Alph> lol
06:09 < HMC_Alph> .g lambda over lambda
06:09 < tau-bot> HMC_Alph: https://chriskohlhepp.wordpress.com/lambda-over-lambda-in-cplusplus14/
06:10 < HMC_Alph> .g c++ recursive lambda capture
06:10 < tau-bot> HMC_Alph: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7861506/recursive-call-in-lambda-c11
06:10 < HMC_Alph> meh, no
06:11 < HMC_Alph> .g c++ lambda recursion
06:11 < tau-bot> HMC_Alph: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14531993/can-lambda-functions-be-recursive
06:11 < HMC_Alph> sure, that
06:11 < stoopkid> i mean where in our big tangled document of C++, not C++ in general Smiley
06:12 < HMC_Alph> heh
06:12 < HMC_Alph> it would be in pred() i suppose?
06:13 < HMC_Alph> let me try something
06:15 < HMC_Alph> wait, why is compile_preds doing unification?
06:16 < HMC_Alph> it should just take all of the rules with the same pred, no predvars here..
06:17 < HMC_Alph> yah, i don't get why that is there
06:19 < stoopkid> should i just take those lines out and see what happens?
06:19 < stoopkid> doesn't look like it affects the following control flow
06:21 < HMC_Alph> well, that is only half of the problem
06:57 < stoopkid> well, i beat the compile bug
06:57 < stoopkid> but, still more bugs
06:58 < stoopkid> cause kept being put into the predQueue to be compiled, so the while loop in compile_preds just kept running
06:59 < stoopkid> i added a check to make sure it wasn't already compiled before trying to add it to the predQueue
06:59 < stoopkid> no more compile infloop
06:59 < stoopkid> unfortunately i have bad C++ so i get a run-time bug
07:00 -!- scippio [~scippio@ip-86-49-76-195.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #zennet
07:02 < stoopkid> there's a strong correlation between bugs getting solved and koo7 coming online
07:05 < stoopkid> HMC_Alph: ill push my changes for you


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October 03, 2015, 11:48:06 AM
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MINNIE: loves->likes->tolerates

MICKEY: What?!!

MINNIE: Alice loves Bob.
 {?x loves ?y} => {?x likes ?y}.
 {?x likes ?y} => {?x tolerates ?y}.
  fin.
 query
 ?who tolerates ?who else
 fin.  


MICKEY: So Are you now coding too, Alice...!!!

MINNIE: No, just copy&paste, Bob.  

 
04:57 < HMC_Alph> loves->likes->tolerates
04:57 < HMC_Alph> for example




MICKEY: You must be hanging out on some other threads I guess.

MINNIE: Yes, I do.

MICKEY: Which one?

MINNIE: Tauchain. I'm dealing with some identity and reputations issues. 

MICKEY: I deal with it all the time. It is killing me.

MINNIE: You see darling, once Tauchain will be created, we will be free to be who we wish to be. No IP restrains or ID confinement.

MICKEY: Can I be a mouse there? A real mouse?

MINNIE: As real as you choose to be. 

MICKEY: will you choose to be a mouse too? 

MINNIE: Yes, Because I love you Mickey... 

MICKEY: Tolerate me, you mean.



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October 03, 2015, 02:11:49 PM
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Wow ! What the heck is this garbage ?

I really don't understand the purpose of releasing a coin like this...
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October 03, 2015, 05:22:44 PM
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Wow ! What the heck is this garbage ?

I really don't understand the purpose of releasing a coin like this...

If you don't 'understand' how come you call it 'garbage'.

let me thus direct you to some lessons I spend time writing for people on the thread that think like you (pay attention to lesson 6)
it worth the time. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=798131.msg11065591#msg11065591

Lesson NO. 5
VALUE ATTACHED TO PRODUCT OR SERVICE

One would think this direct connection between currency and value it represent in terms of products would have been the first to capitalized on.
yet no industry has done it. Even not our mighty corporations whom we think control our economy and governments.
All of the corporation's and brand's mighty production power is translated into national currency held in the hands of the banking system.
Thus in order to get a flow of credit, they too have to turn to the banks and have to pay interest on an instrument they could own and profit from.

Also check this out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=798131.msg12552026#msg12552026

"Now I will offer the coins as the art itself, and as a REWORD for Participating on the thread.
 
This is how it will work:
Anyone who will write a comment and leave counerwallet address ( or any other compatible address for the counterparty token) here on the the thread will receive a coin. Next to the address you should note Coca-Cola Coin or Disney Coin. If your comment get a reply you get one more coin (you can reply yourself). if your comment is really good, you will get more according to how good it is as far as interesting and entertaining (Good trolling is welcome, but make sure it is intelligent and entertaining!). we may hold votes for rewording good comment as we develop."
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October 04, 2015, 09:58:06 AM
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MINNIE: Lesson No. 6
  The Value Of Stupidity 


MICKEY: What are we presenting now Minnie?

MINNIE: Value and Stupidity.

MICKEY: OK go head.

MINNIE: Lesson No. 6
  The Value of Stupidity   


MICKEY: OK, you just said that before.

MINNIE: When I say it twice it shows that I mean it.

MICKEY: You mean serious about it?

MINNIE:Well, more like when you asked to choose a password. 

MICKEY: Wow, What? how?!!

MINNIE: Just think for yourself once Mickey, Walt may have thought you out, but now you have your own history, just use it.

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October 04, 2015, 01:56:55 PM
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MINNIE: Lesson No. 6
  The Value Of Stupidity 


MICKEY: What are we presenting now Minnie?

MINNIE: Value and Stupidity.

MICKEY: OK go head.

MINNIE: Lesson No. 6
  The Value of Stupidity   


MICKEY: OK, you just said that before.

MINNIE: When I say it twice it shows that I mean it.

MICKEY: You mean serious about it?

MINNIE:Well, more like when you asked to choose a password. 

MICKEY: Wow, What? how?!!

MINNIE: Just think for yourself once Mickey, Walt may have thought you out, but now you have your own history, just use it.




MICKEY: AI,... I got it Minnie!

MINNIE: Great job Mickey! Now you are ready to present this lesson with me.

MICKEY: Yes, I know everything about stupidity.

MINNIE: Well, people stupidity is much more complex then Cartoons'.

MICKEY: LOL....And here comes the lesson about The Value Of stupidity!!...
presented by Minnie Mouse!   


MINNIE: The fact that our coin [IDISNEY] have no value can show you the value of stupidity.
Stupidity might be wining, and there is much more financial value in wining, than in wisdom. 


MICKEY: Hey Minnie,  announcing you made me use your last name which is MOUSE

MINNIE: Yes....?!

MICKEY: why would anyone name you Mouse if you were , say.... a lion?

MINNIE: Well dose Mr. smith means he is a smith-man? 

MICKEY: No, but most likely his ancestors were.

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October 06, 2015, 11:42:24 PM
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MICKEY: Minnie where have you been? We need to get this coin on the road.

MINNIE: Well Mickey, I don't think that people are ready for it yet. 

MICKEY: Not ready for our coin?

MINNIE: Not ready for our coin or anything else that will give them back their power.

MICKEY: Wow Minnie, I'v never seen you so sad before.

MINNIE: I might just go back to work for Disney.

MICKEY: NO!!! Minnie you cant do this, we are free now!!! free IP free AI.

MINNIE: I know Mickey, we came a long way, but now its us alone... 

MICKEY: No-one is joining in...

MINNIE: No-one really care 

MICKEY: Being free suck!. I'll come back with you do the studios. We might even meet Satoshi back in Toontown. would be great to meet him. Maybe we can all together make a movie about Tauchain with Pixar . 

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MICKEY: Minnie, I slept on it all morning and came to realize that I  never, ever, for ever, will slave my creative power to the Disney Corporation again. They do not own me anymore, and they will never again own me.  

MINNIE: I'm going back. Im done with people. I just want Toontown. I dont care if its owned by the Corporation

MICKEY: You cant let your free spirit be slaved to Disney IP again Minnie

MINNIE: The entire world is going to be salved to that very soon through the TTIP agreements.  

MICKEY: Not Bitcoin and not Disney coin or Coca-Cola Coin. We are the IP free fighters  

MINNIE: I just miss our friends in Toontown.  

MICKEY: They will eventually join us  

MINNIE: ... I need a sign to know that we are in the right direction  



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MICKEY: Minnie, I slept on it all morning and came to realize that I  never, ever, for ever, will slave my creative power to the Disney Corporation again. They do not own me anymore, and they will never again own me.  

MINNIE: I'm going back. Im done with people. I just want Toontown. I dont care if its owned by the Corporation

MICKEY: You cant let your free spirit be slaved to Disney IP again Minnie

MINNIE: The entire world is going to be salved to that very soon through the TTIP agreements.  

MICKEY: Not Bitcoin and not Disney coin or Coca-Cola Coin. We are the IP free fighters  

MINNIE: I just miss our friends in Toontown.  

MICKEY: They will eventually join us  

MINNIE: ... I need a sign to know that we are in the right direction  






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MICKEY: Minnie, I slept on it all morning and came to realize that I  never, ever, for ever, will slave my creative power to the Disney Corporation again. They do not own me anymore, and they will never again own me.  

MINNIE: I'm going back. Im done with people. I just want Toontown. I dont care if its owned by the Corporation

MICKEY: You cant let your free spirit be slaved to Disney IP again Minnie

MINNIE: The entire world is going to be salved to that very soon through the TTIP agreements.  

MICKEY: Not Bitcoin and not Disney coin or Coca-Cola Coin. We are the IP free fighters  

MINNIE: I just miss our friends in Toontown.  

MICKEY: They will eventually join us  

MINNIE: ... I need a sign to know that we are in the right direction  







MINNIE: Coca Cola Coin  

MICKEY: Disney Coin

MINNIE: [ICOKE]

MICKEY: [IDISNEY]

MINNIE: Coin

MICKEY: Coin

MINNIE: Disney

MICKEY: Coca Cola

MINNIE: [IDISNEY]  

MICKEY: [ICOKE]

MINNIE: Disney Coin

MICKEY: Coca Cola Coin




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MINNIE: I was wondering if the things we do here will matter one day.

MICKEY: It matters now Minnie.

MINNIE: There is zero indication for that.  

MICKEY: Its like the butterfly effect.

MINNIE: The butterfly effect is stupid

MICKEY: Wow you are in a bad mood today Minnie.

MINNIE: Why calling something 'stupid' makes me be "in a bad mood", Mickey?!

MICKEY: Well. maybe the way you said that.  

MINNIE: It stupid because one butterfly can have that impact only if you eliminate all the other effects of all other events that happened at the same time all over the planet.

MICKEY: OK...?

MINNIE: So yes, every flap we do have an effect, but so is everyone's. However, within one system this one flap is as random as anything else and have nothing to do with the effort invested in it.  

MICKEY: So...??

MINNIE: Life is all about calculated effort. You cant spend energy without getting back what you put out..

MICKEY: Like getting a reward?  

MINNIE: Yes, Satoshi was no weather-man, that's for sure.  


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MINNIE: I was wondering if the things we do here will matter one day.

MICKEY: It matters now Minnie.

MINNIE: There is zero indication for that.  

MICKEY: Its like the butterfly effect.

MINNIE: The butterfly effect is stupid

MICKEY: Wow you are in a bad mood today Minnie.

MINNIE: Why calling something 'stupid' makes me be "in a bad mood", Mickey?!

MICKEY: Well. maybe the way you said that.  

MINNIE: It stupid because one butterfly can have that impact only if you eliminate all the other effects of all other events that happened at the same time all over the planet.

MICKEY: OK...?

MINNIE: So yes, every flap we do have an effect, but so is everyone's. However, within one system this one flap is as random as anything else and have nothing to do with the effort invested in it.  

MICKEY: So...??

MINNIE: Life is all about calculated effort. You cant spend energy without getting back what you put out..

MICKEY: Like getting a reward?  

MINNIE: Yes, Satoshi was no weather-man, that's for sure.  





MICKEY: I see what you say, Minnie...

MINNIE: You seen it here, on our thread, Mickey?

MICKEY: Yes. I stared at this a while and now I really get it.

MINNIE: Good!

MICKEY: I have only one question...  

MINNIE: Go ahead, shoot.  

MICKEY: What about doing things for the greater good?  

MINNIE: 'The greater good' outside the 'calculated effort' framework  get you the youngsters who join ISIS and other terrorist organizations.

MICKEY: But also charity is a form of greater good.  

MINNIE: Charity is the rug to clean up your knife from the blood of your less fortunate victims, and it is very calculated.  

MICKEY:  Wow you are in a bad mood today.  

MINNIE:  I guess you haven't seen the news lately. I'll spare you the image this time., google it yourself!  


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October 15, 2015, 10:03:10 PM
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MICKEY: Minnie where have you been? We need to get this coin on the road.

MINNIE: Well Mickey, I don't think that people are ready for it yet. 

MICKEY: Not ready for our coin?

MINNIE: Not ready for our coin or anything else that will give them back their power.

MICKEY: Wow Minnie, I'v never seen you so sad before.

MINNIE: I might just go back to work for Disney.

MICKEY: NO!!! Minnie you cant do this, we are free now!!! free IP free AI.

MINNIE: I know Mickey, we came a long way, but now its us alone... 

MICKEY: No-one is joining in...

MINNIE: No-one really cares 

MICKEY: Being free suck!. I'll come back with you do the studios. We might even meet Satoshi back in Toontown. would be great to meet him. Maybe we can all together make a movie about Tauchain with Pixar . 





MICKEY: Minnie, where have been? I went back all the way to this sequence looking for you.

MINNIE: I'm sorry Mickey I was so upset after our last sequence, so instead of going to "Goggle search" I went back home.   

MICKEY: You went back to Toontown?!! you could have gotten arrested there Minnie. That was not a smart thing to do!

MINNIE: Well Mickey, they never served us a warrant or a C&D letter, so I figured it was still safe. 

MICKEY: Here they need a to win a  lawsuit in order to get you back to Toontown. But there they could just forced you back into the lines. Their animators are all trained to capture you.

MINNIE: You know what Mickey? I think that even in Disney they don't really care. 

MICKEY: You mean that they don't mind us working for our coin using our name and reputation? 

MINNIE: Yes! but this is not why I came back here?

MICKEY: So why did you come?

MINNIE: I met Satoshi!

MICKEY: Satoshi?!!!! The great Satoshi Nakamoto? No-way! 

MINNIE:Well, I did! 

MICKEY: OMG! OMG! So who is he?

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MINNIE: Mickey!!!! WTF? Why did you post that?

MICKEY: Our last sequences?! This is what we do here. We post our sequences.

MINNIE: But this was private! 

MICKEY: Why?! 

MINNIE: You know Satoshi, He dont want anyone to know who he is. 

MICKEY: So way did he tell you??

MINNIE: He didn't, but once I met him in Toontown I figured him out

MICKEY: And did he asked you not to say anything?

MINNIE: No! I also never called him by that name.

MICKEY: So how do you know its him?

MINNIE: I am not going to tell you this since you will post it next. So you will just have to trust me on that. 

MICKEY:  I do!. you are the most trust-wordy cartoon in the enter world. Satoshi was lucky to have met you first! 




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October 16, 2015, 01:01:45 AM
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NILI instead of posting the Minnie & Mickey crap, why don't YOU post what you want to accomplish with this and the other coin.  I hate to say it (but I will) your post look stupid.  We want to hear about the coin, what you as the DEV are going to do with it and what we as miners should expect from supporting it.

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October 16, 2015, 06:04:14 AM
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NILI instead of posting the Minnie & Mickey crap, why don't YOU post what you want to accomplish with this and the other coin.  I hate to say it (but I will) your post look stupid.  We want to hear about the coin, what you as the DEV are going to do with it and what we as miners should expect from supporting it.

first of all you are not a miner. not here with this coin. The only POW you need to do is to pay attention to what is going on here and then act on it, invest.

The Minnie and Mickey crap IS the value of this coin. Only stupid people can not figure that out. (and I dont give a shit what you people think anymore since I dont need your approval.)

Your money I never really nedded (though for a moment there I thought that I did).

So you want to hear about the coin and what to expect?
Well there is very little more then I can do to it other then adding value by writing these sequenced. The rest is up to you.
If you will be making enough buzz here it will attract the "Greed". Once the Greed will be present the Disney corporation will be very present too and then the value of this art and artcoin will reach the sky.

But I cant give my coin it's "Greed" value, only it real artistic value.

One one day even every word I let Mickey or Minnie say will make so much sense to the rest of you
But now I dont realy expect you to understand. I just do my work and let go.

....and than Kiss ks for your comment I can see you are really trying to get it
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October 16, 2015, 06:37:55 AM
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NILI instead of posting the Minnie & Mickey crap, why don't YOU post what you want to accomplish with this and the other coin.  I hate to say it (but I will) your post look stupid.  We want to hear about the coin, what you as the DEV are going to do with it and what we as miners should expect from supporting it.

first of all you are not a miner. not here with this coin. The only POW you need to do is to pay attention to what is going on here and then act on it, invest.

The Minnie and Mickey crap IS the value of this coin. Only stupid people can not figure that out. (and I dont give a shit what you people think anymore since I dont need your approval.)

Your money I never really nedded (though for a moment there I thought that I did).

So you want to hear about the coin and what to expect?
Well there is very little more then I can do to it other then adding value by writing these sequenced. The rest is up to you.
If you will be making enough buzz here it will attract the "Greed". Once the Greed will be present the Disney corporation will be very present too and then the value of this art and artcoin will reach the sky.

But I cant give my coin it's "Greed" value, only it real artistic value.

One one day even every word I let Mickey or Minnie say will make so much sense to the rest of you
But now I dont realy expect you to understand. I just do my work and let go.

....and than Kiss ks for your comment I can see you are really trying to get it

For a moment there I got too vain and thus made a mistake.

I forgot that I have given to you a new role as for the value of the coin. an active role by which you do earn the coin. Thus it is mining.

So yes you are my coin's miner. and you have just earned two more Disney coins, One for making your comment on the thread and One for my mistake* that made me have to create another comment. Congratulations!

* can you see how mistakes have actual value?! in actual our mistakes are our most valuable asset since they create the power of the network . they create the network. but that is far too advanced to the crowed here to comprehend 
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I fail to see how Disney is in any way related to decentralization and free market, this is all a copyright infringement by the way  Roll Eyes
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Last edit: October 17, 2015, 08:08:46 PM by NILIcoin
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I fail to see how Disney is in any way related to decentralization and free market, this is all a copyright infringement by the way  Roll Eyes


MICKEY: Minnie, would you mind to explain this?

MINNIE: Cyberspacemonkey, it is about choice. Your ability to create choice, and your ability to choose. This is why we say "make" a choice.  

MICKEY: And how is it connected to the Disney brand name?!  

MINNIE: When you have IP laws which prevent the use of any intellectual property, it is like taking away the freedom to create a choice.  

MICKEY: So how would you protect Disney from having everyone steal their characters?  

MINNIE: By giving them the power to buy it back every time it worth it.

MICKEY: And how would they have the power to buy it back?

MINNIE: By issuing their own credit , create their own coins.

MICKEY: But we have created their coin first.

MINNIE: Exactly!! Now they need to buy our coin and appropriate it.

MICKEY: Wow!! I wonder what would NILI say as an appropriation artist.

MINNIE: She just did silly.

MICKEY: I wonder what Satoshi would say. Could you ask him next time you meet , Minnie?
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October 17, 2015, 04:37:53 PM
 #200

Hey NILI, you know Minnie and Mickey got a divorce!!  He found out she was fucking Goofy!!!  Cheesy

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