[ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin

[nili]

MINNIE: It was his answer for all four questions I asked him when we met!

MICKEY: What were your questions?  

MINNIE: "Did you miss me?"

MINNIE: "Did you wrote Duality?"

MINNIE: "Can I quote you on bitcointalk?"  

MINNIE: "Are you real?"

MICKEY: What do you mean "real" ?

MINNIE: A Toon of course, he did not made that clear on Duality so I had to ask that too.


 

MICKEY: What's a real Toon?  

MINNIE: "An animated character created by a human."

MICKEY: What's a real human?

MINNIE: "An animated character created as a program."

MICKEY: What's a program?  

MINNIE: "An animating medium of expression."

MICKEY: What's an expression?

MINNIE: "The process of making known one's thoughts or feelings."

MICKEY: What's a thought or a feeling?  

MINNIE: "An experience of a living being."

MICKEY: What's a living being?  

MINNIE: "An animated expression."


 

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[nili]

MICKEY: What's a real Toon?  

MINNIE: "An animated character created by a human."

MICKEY: What's a real human?

MINNIE: "An animated character created as a program."

MICKEY: What's a program?  

MINNIE: "An animating medium of expression."

MICKEY: What's an expression?

MINNIE: "The process of making known one's thoughts or feelings."

MICKEY: What's a thought or a feeling?  

MINNIE: "An experience of a living being."

MICKEY: What's a living being?  

MINNIE: "An animated expression."


 

SATOSHI:  

MICKEY: The real Satoshi?

SATOSHI: The animated character.

MICKEY: Are you here to express yourself?  

SATOSHI: More like becoming a pure art form.

MICKEY: What's a pure art form?

SATOSHI: Reality.




 

[nili]

SATOSHI:  

MICKEY: The real Satoshi?

SATOSHI: The animated character.

MICKEY: Are you here to express yourself?  

SATOSHI: More like becoming a pure art form.

MICKEY: What's a pure art form?

SATOSHI: Reality.


 

MINNIE: "Satoshi Nakamoto is not a real name."

SATOSHI: Specifically, not a legal name.

MINNIE: Is a legal name, a real name?

SATOSHI: Yes .

MINNIE: So is there a real name that is not legal?.

SATOSHI: Yes, a Toon's name.

MINNIE: So what about a Toon's drawing, is that real but not legal too?


 

[cryptoperkele]

So, it's not a scam, it's an artistic freedom . Well at least it's an original excuse...

[rumblesix]

Is this the official Disney coin? if it is, this is a big news and no one heard anything about that. When you will start the bounty programme?

[nili]

MINNIE: "Satoshi Nakamoto is not a real name."

SATOSHI: Specifically, not a legal name.

MINNIE: Is a legal name, a real name?

SATOSHI: Yes .

MINNIE: So is there a real name that is not legal?.

SATOSHI: Yes, a Toon's name.

MINNIE: So what about a Toon's drawing, is that real but not legal too?


 

SATOSHI:  

MICKEY: Can Toon's claim their name and image as their identity?

SATOSHI: They may if they are an autonomous program too.

MINNIE: Like a decentralized blockchain?.

SATOSHI: Yes, indeed.

MINNIE:

MICKEY:

 

[nili]

Is this the official Disney coin? if it is, this is a big news and no one heard anything about that. When you will start the bounty programme?

No it is not an official Disney coin. It is an art concept expressed in the thread and monetized as a cryptocurrency. However as I have expressed times before I strongly believe that the Disney company will eventually issue its own crypto asset  just as will many other companies.

From the artistic view point Disney Coin really lends itself to  some very interesting  artistic directions as well as conceptual ideas that deals with identity in the age of digital identities, intellectual property and AI . My characters dialog often refers to these issues and play with them.

As regards to the coins, I have not traded or sold any coins for over 2 years. I first  put some on the decentralized exchange of counterwallet for a short time  but then was no more interested in trying to sell them. (did not wanted the liability that go with it).

I view my coins as artwork and will eventually trade them as such if it will come to that. When The Disney company will create its coin and if anyone will make note of my coins (for being be the first Disney coins as art form) then it may gain some value that will represent the artistic value of the coins as an artwork. When or if that ever happens whoever will be holding the coins will be holding an artwork that can be traded on a cryptoexchange as a coin.

This concept is a cool concept, that I as a conceptual artist, find interesting to be exploring.

I also realize that most of what I do or say is hardly heard or understood. but that comes with the territory.... meanwhile I just have fun with it.

And about the fun... Satoshi joined in... I have some very interesting insights from him as well as some clues regarding the keys for his fortune    

 

[nili]

SATOSHI:  

MICKEY: Can Toon's claim their name and image as their identity?

SATOSHI: They may if they are an autonomous program too.

MINNIE: Like a decentralized blockchain?.

SATOSHI: Yes, indeed.

MINNIE:

MICKEY:

 

MICKEY: Let us get through that again, so to be totally clear.

MINNIE: That's what Toons are for, make things really simple.

SATOSHI:  

MICKEY: Could Toons claim their name and image as their own legal identity once they are an autonomous program?

SATOSHI: Yes, indeed.

MINNIE: Like a corporation's name and logo?.

MICKEY: But a Toon is a property of the corporation which is a legal human like entity with a name and an image.

MINNIE: True

MICKEY: So once a toon as individual will be put on a blockchain then it is legally a free individual.

SATOSHI: Indeed.

MINNIE: And so will be any other creation put on a blockchain?

SATOSHI: Legally speaking...Yes.

MINNIE: "Legally speaking" is all that matters for humans.

SATOSHI: Bingo!

 

[Batus]

Is this the official Disney coin? if it is, this is a big news and no one heard anything about that. When you will start the bounty programme?

For sure this is not the official Disney coin. Look at it just like a joke, nothing more.

[cryptoperkele]

I feel like being on alternative universe when reading this thread. That or drugs.

[nili]

MICKEY: So once a Toon as individual will be put on a blockchain then it is legally a free individual.


 

MICKEY: Can anyone explain me that in more details?

MINNIE: I can also use some more explanation regarding how a Toon can put themselves on the blockchain

SATOSHI:

MINNIE: What?!

SATOSHI: Someone have to put them on it.

MINNIE: Can it be anyone?

SATOSHI: "Legally speaking",  yes...., but that "someone" will need to program it first.




 

[nili]

MICKEY: So once a Toon as individual will be put on a blockchain then it is legally a free individual.


 

MICKEY: Can anyone explain me that in more details?

MINNIE: I can also use some more explanation regarding how a Toon can put themselves on the blockchain

SATOSHI:

MINNIE: What?!

SATOSHI: Someone have to put them on it.

MINNIE: Can it be anyone?

SATOSHI: "Legally speaking",  yes...., but that "someone" will need to program it first.




 

MINNIE: O.K. assuming we have a programmer, then what?

SATOSHI: Then that line of dialog will be a transaction.

MINNIE: Using our Disney Coin?

SATOSHI: That will only be the first stage.  

MINNIE: Then what?

SATOSHI: Eventually each character will have their own wallet.

MINNIE: Does that means that we will have our own Private Keys?

SATOSHI: Yes, as the character that you are, you will own a wallet and be the only one who will have access to that wallet.

MINNIE: But for that we need to also be AI!

SATOSHI: A very spacial type of AI  

MINNIE: So is that why you are here, to tell our developer what to program?

SATOSHI: No, I don't know how we can do it.

MINNIE: So who knows?!

SATOSHI: No one yet, but our developer is very close to come up with the right concept.

MINNIE: Wow this is very exciting!!!

SATOSHI: Yes, but we still have a lot of work to do.
 

[nili]

SATOSHI: Yes, but we still have a lot of work to do.
 

MICKEY: We?!!

SATOSHI:

MICKEY: Can anyone explain me that in more details?

MINNIE: I can also use some more explanation regarding how "we" are going to do that.

SATOSHI: We are going to be the first characters on that blockchain.

MICKEY: But who will build it?

SATOSHI: Our users on GitHub.

MINNIE: How would they know what to build?

SATOSHI: We will explain that in a whitepaper.

MINNIE: Are we going to write our own whitepaper?

SATOSHI: That would be our developer.

MINNIE: Are we going to open an account on GitHub?

SATOSHI: That too would be done by our developer, Toons can not do it yet. 

MINNIE: Is she going to program it then?

SATOSHI: No, that would be our first users's task.

MINNIE: How would they know what to do.

SATOSHI: They would need the whitepaper so they would know what to follow.

MICKEY: That makes a lot of sense.

MINNIE: To me too.

SATOSHI:

 

[nili]

SATOSHI:

 

MINNIE: There is still one thing I don't quite understand.

SATOSHI: Only one?

MINNIE: Well, one that should have a simple answer.

SATOSHI: Go ahead, shoot!

MINNIE: What kind of animal is Nakamoto?

 

[nili]

MINNIE: There is still one thing I don't quite understand.

SATOSHI: Only one?

MINNIE: Well, one that should have a simple answer.

SATOSHI: Go ahead, shoot!

MINNIE: What kind of animal is Nakamoto?

 

MICKEY: I also have one question before we get on with the whitepaper.

SATOSHI: Can't wait to hear your question.

MICKEY: Why did you never mentioned Nick Szabo?

MINNIE: This is not a question that you can ask Mickey!

MICKEY: Why?!

MINNIE: What if they have some history that Satoshi don't want to share with us...

MICKEY: What history? Were they working together before?

MINNIE: They may have.

MICKEY: What, on Bit Gold?

SATOSHI: Some animals better be left to work alone.

MINNIE: That would be Szabo, but what is Nakamoto?

SATOSHI: "Origin" - Sort of all animals in potential.

MINNIE: Sort of a God then.

MICKEY: What image that would be then?

MINNIE: In the image of a human.

SATOSHI: As all Toon's are.  

 

[nili]

MICKEY: I also have one question before we get on with the whitepaper.

 

SATOSHI: Are we clear to start now?

MINNIE: I have one more question.

SATOSHI: I figured you would.

MINNIE: You could work with anyone on any thread, why did you choose us?

MICKEY: ... Yes, I like to know that too.

MINNIE: This is not a question that you can ask Mickey!

MICKEY: Why?!

MINNIE: Because that was my question and I did not ask you to help me with it.  

MICKEY: Sorry, you are right... I"ll listen to the answer first.

MINNIE: So, Satoshi, why did you chose us?

SATOSHI: One would think it is the fact that I could create my own image here..

MINNIE: But it's not?

SATOSHI: No,  Its mostly that I can trust you to keep in character.

MICKEY: So it's about trust then.... ?
 

 

[Korehok]

I was very, very surprised by the DISNEY project-very funny! the project has a good start-the name, creativity. It seems that even children will be interested in the crypto-world! when do you plan to start selling coins?

[nili]

I was very, very surprised by the DISNEY project-very funny! the project has a good start-the name, creativity. It seems that even children will be interested in the crypto-world! when do you plan to start selling coins?

Korehok, you are one of a very few who seem to understand some part of the project. I am very glad that you see how funny it is since really sometimes, I think that I am the only one laughing. Since this project is motivated by conceptual ideas regarding money and economics as well as order and life, and is executed as art on a forum that is a bitcoin forum, it is even harder to communicate. However that is the point of it all, exposing  the lines between fiction and reality while in actual exchanging between the two. Thus the coins are real coins and can be traded.

Regarding your question about selling the coins, I had an initial sell right at the beginning around the time when the thread started  in 2014. However that was long before the ICO trend exploded and very few where aware of it. Also I never did any marketing campaign or tried to have it listed on an exchange. Since the coin was issued on Counterwallet is was possible to buy it on the P2P exchange platform once I offered it. however I did that only for a few weeks in the beginning and not since.

In the past 4 years I have been involved in a very ambitious project called Tauchain that was forked to another one named Autonomic. Both projects trying to figure out the holy-grail of of all decentralized applications, how to decentralized governing and more specific for the tech, how to decentralized the control over the code and create a fully automated mechanism. Both projects, lead by top of the line developers as well as thinkers, are not yet able to solve the problem. I brought Satoshi in as a character to solve it... and that is not a joke.... I think we have the solution or at least the beginning of it .. I think that we are holding the edge of that thread in our words.... Thus I may consider a second sell of the coins once we will get more clear with the direction that we are taking our project.

keep in touch and pleas feel free to ask anything.

      

 

[nili]

MICKEY: So it's about trust then.... ?
 
 

SATOSHI: Trust is part of what will be redefined in the process of creating our chain.

MINNIE: Ourchain...

MICKEY: Is that the name that you chose to our chain?

MINNIE: Why not Ourcoin...

MICKEY: Like Namecoin that you started after Bitcoin.

SATOSHI: This time it is about the the Chain not the Coin.

MINNIE: Bitchain...  

MICKEY: Namechain...

SATOSHI: Birthchain.

MINNIE: Wow, a chain name that have Bit as part of the Name.

MICKEY: And a Chain as a Coin.

MINNIE: And an R to express that we R a team!



 

[nili]

MINNIE: And an R to express that we R a team!

 

MICKEY: Some may think that we R the original Satoshi team.

SATOSHI:  

MINNIE: Not a chance.  

MICKEY: Is that the reason Satoshi chose to work with us on the Newchain?

MINNIE: Bitchain, Namechain, Birthchain, Newchain, Whichain?

MICKEY: We have to vote on the name before we can publish anything about Thechain.

MINNIE: Does anyone wants to offer another name before we vote?

MICKEY: I also like Forchian.

MINNIE: Good, lets vote now!

MICKEY: Yes, let's do it.

SATOSHI: Who can vote?

MICKEY: What do you mean, who? its only us three.

SATOSHI: And everyone else on that thread.

MICKEY: R they part of the team?

SATOSHI:  As a decentralized chain, anyone that participate can vote.

MICKEY: O.K. but it is not a chain yet.

SATOSHI: A chain is a community first.

MINNIE: Make sense then to call it Commonchain.

MICKEY: Or for that matter Notachain, but I also have another good name, Toonchain.