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November 18, 2018, 11:14:34 AM |
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SATOSHI: A chain is a community first.
MINNIE: Make sense then to call it Commonchain.
MICKEY: Or for that matter Notachain, but I also have another good name, Toonchain.
SATOSHI: Hey guys, lets concentrate on these last three statements.
MICKEY: ... and that would be?!!
MINNIE: A community of Toons.
SATOSHI: Was not quite what I would spelled out myself... but better.
MICKEY: Are all our users Toons then?
SATOSHI: Not all users but all identities on our Basechain .
MINNIE: We just decide not to talk about chain names, Satoshi!
SATOSHI: Sorry, I was getting into that Toon's farme of mind.
MICKEY: Can we go back to Ourchain now?
SATOSHI: Fine, and I will not respond to that name challenge again.
MICKEY: O.K. good, we got a lot of work ahead of us
MINNIE: Mickey, what got into you? I never saw you like that.
MICKEY: I just can't wait to be on that Newchain.
MINNIE: Me Too.
SATOSHI: Me Toon.
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nili
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November 18, 2018, 02:42:15 PM |
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SATOSHI: A chain is a community first.
MINNIE: Make sense then to call it Commonchain.
MICKEY: Or for that matter Notachain, but I also have another good name, Toonchain.
SATOSHI: Hey guys, lets concentrate on these last three statements.
MICKEY: I just can't wait to be on that Newchain.
MINNIE: Me Too.
SATOSHI: Me Toon.
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November 18, 2018, 03:30:01 PM |
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SATOSHI: Hey guys, lets concentrate on these last three statements.
MICKEY: I just can't wait to be on that Newchain.
MINNIE: Me Too.
SATOSHI: Me Toon.
MICKEY: So about that Too'ns community... should we first define what is a Me on a chain?
MINNIE: A Me is a Toon.
SATOSHI: A Toon Too, since we are all Toons on the chain
MICKEY: Right!
SATOSHI: Toons, humans, miners, all can be reborn on our chain as equal members in our Toons community.
MINNIE: What about the core developers?
SATOSHI: They will be the founding members of our community.
MICKEY: Are they going to be Toons Too? .
SATOSHI: I'm not sure how that will work out, but we have to start in order to see.
MICKEY: How are we going to start then?
SATOSHI: Open a Github account and publish the password on our thread.
MINNIE: That would not be Me.
MICKEY: Not Me Too.
SATOSHI: As I said before, for that we need a human.
MINNIE: I guess this is #whyididnotreport Too.
MICKEY: No kidding.
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November 20, 2018, 08:53:42 AM |
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SATOSHI: As I said before, for that we need a human.
MINNIE: I guess this is #whyididnotreport Too.
MICKEY: No kidding.
SATOSHI: I suggest we stay on topic.
MINNIE: Me Too.
SATOSHI: Minnie... !!!
MINNIE: Is Me alone offending enough or off topic Too?
SATOSHI: What are you talking about? you get me very confused.
MINNIE: I Just don't get what is wrong with Me, and why you think that We is less offending?
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November 20, 2018, 09:23:40 AM
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MINNIE: I Just don't get what is wrong with Me, and why you think that We is less offensive.
MICKEY: Yes really, why do you always say We and not Me?
MINNIE: You could just say Me Too, it express the same meaning as We.
MICKEY: Right!
MINNIE: It does! and more so it shows that you are taking a stand for being a part of some We.
MICKEY: Right! It shows that you have integrity and that you are taking charge on your actions.
MINNIE: .... Well, that is where is gets very tricky.
MICKEY: where?
MINNIE: Where as a victim it never is your fault though you are often manipulated to think that way.
MICKEY: Right! I meant what you said, and from the same place also.
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November 20, 2018, 10:55:01 AM |
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MINNIE: You could just say Me Too. It express the same meaning as We.
MICKEY: Right!
MINNIE: However, to be very clear, Me Too is based on less unfounded assumptions.
SATOSHI: Are you suggesting that We express some sort of consent as an assumption?
MINNIE: Exactly!
MICKEY: Right!
MINNIE: I don't even understand how it can be legal to say We without presenting a proof for that argument.
SATOSHI: What argument?
MICKEY: The argument of the agreement.
MINNIE: A Proof Of Agreement, if We like to be more constructive in terms of the logic.
MICKEY: Like Proof Of Existence, Proof Of Stake, Proof Of Work, Proof Of Concept....
MINNIE: And Proof Of Consent.
MICKEY: What is the difference between Proof of Agreement and Proof of Consent?
MINNIE: Proof Of Consent assume an initiator and the object of initiation, which in the case of another living being is a subjects of its own right.
MICKEY: Wow...This is very confusing...
MINNIE: That is why it is important to use commonsense.
SATOSHI: ... As well as good vocabulary and correct spelling.
MINNIE: Spelling is far less important in terms of understanding a concept.
SATOSHI: Spelling can help though...
MINNIE: I don't argue that, but that is not the topic of our current dialog.
SATOSHI: Which is ....?
MINNIE: .... Constructive Logic.
SATOSHI: Do you mean that using the term We without being very specific about who else is part of that We, as well as not making the Poof Of Agreement or Proof of consent available to the public, is not constructive?
MINNIE: Exactly! you are a good Lerner.
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November 20, 2018, 03:20:50 PM |
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November 20, 2018, 03:59:26 PM |
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SATOSHI: How am I a Lerner then?
MINNIE: We all are.
MICKEY: Lerner is our Toon's chain name.
SATOSHI: What is a Toon's chain name?
MINNIE: It's like a second animal name but a third name that makes a Toon be a part of one entity.
MICKEY: Like Donald Duck and Daffy Duck, both are Ducks but each have a different third name.
MINNIE: Donald Duck Disney and Daffy Duck Warner.
SATOSHI: So you mean a corporations.
MINNIE: Legally speaking yes.
MICKEY: But Corporations are a primitive entity.
MINNIE: Humans are much better form of such entity.
SATOSHI: What entity.
MINNIE: An organism.
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November 21, 2018, 09:21:24 AM |
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SATOSHI: How am I a Lerner then?
MINNIE: We all are.
MICKEY: Lerner is our Toon's chain name.
SATOSHI: What is a Toon's chain name?
MINNIE: It's like a second animal name but a third name that makes a Toon be a part of one entity.
MICKEY: Like Donald Duck and Daffy Duck, both are Ducks but each have a different third name.
MINNIE: Donald Duck Disney and Daffy Duck Warner.
SATOSHI: So you mean a corporations.
MINNIE: Legally speaking yes.
MICKEY: But Corporations are a primitive entity.
MINNIE: Humans are much better form of such entity.
SATOSHI: What entity.
MINNIE: An organism.
SATOSHI: I am confused.
MINNIE: Me Too.
MICKEY: Me Too, two.
SATOSHI: We are Three then.
MINNIE: You learn fast.
MICKEY: So what is Lerner on Ourchain?
MINNIE: The third name which we all must share.
MICKEY: Even if I was Mickey Ver?
SATOSHI: Or Roger Rabbit?
MINNIE: Donald Duck Disney, Daffy Duck Warner, Mickey Mouse Disney, Mickey Mouse Lerner Mickey Ver BchABC, Roger Rabbit BchABC. Satoshi Nakamoto BTC, Satoshi Nakamoto BchSV, Satoshi Nakamoto Lerner, Craig Mouse Disney.
MICKEY: Hello Kitty BTC, Crypto Kitty ETH.
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November 21, 2018, 09:41:26 AM |
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MINNIE: Donald Duck Disney, Daffy Duck Warner, Mickey Mouse Disney, Mickey Mouse Lerner Mickey Ver BchABC, Roger Rabbit BchABC. Satoshi Nakamoto BTC, Satoshi Nakamoto BchSV, Satoshi Nakamoto Lerner, Craig Mouse Disney.
MICKEY: Hello Kitty BTC, Crypto Kitty ETH.
SATOSHI: Satoshi Nakamoto Wright, Nick Szabo ETH.
MICKEY: So it is the order of the names that matter then.
MINNIE: You learn fast too.
SATOSHI: It is all about the order.
MINNIE: It is first about the lists.
SATOSHI: You are a fast Lerner.
MICKEY: And you are We.
MINNIE: I just hope that you will choose Us again.
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November 21, 2018, 02:56:59 PM
Last edit: November 21, 2018, 04:55:55 PM by nili |
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MINNIE: I just hope that you will choose Us again.
MICKEY: Just to be on the same page, who is Us?
MINNIE: You, Satoshi and I for now.
MICKEY: As our First names only?
MINNIE: For now we can use our First name only
MICKEY: Why is that so?
MINNIE: Because we are the first names to be used on Ourchain
MICKEY: But we haven't started the Newchain yet.
MINNIE: For that we needed Satoshi on our team.
SATOSHI: One needs Three to become a team. 
MICKEY: What's with the Second then?
SATOSHI: You and Minnie are more of an Item than a Team.
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November 21, 2018, 04:55:32 PM
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SATOSHI: One needs Three to become a team.
MICKEY: What's with the Second then?
SATOSHI: You and Minnie are more of an Item than a Team.
MINNIE: If One needs Three, who is the Fourth on the Team?.
SATOSHI: That must be God or ruther the narrator.
MINNIE: Only until all Three of Us are on Ourchain.
SATOSHI: Once on the Birthchain all are equal and free First names.
MICKEY: So because we haven't started the Newchain yet, Our narrator is part of the Team but is not a free First name.?
MINNIE: Right!
SATOSHI: Good job Team Toons, I am glad We figured that one out.
MICKEY: Next We need to sort out the chain's name issue.
MINNIE: It is ruther the chains names.
SATOSHI: Can't wait to see how that will unfold.
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November 23, 2018, 08:47:34 AM |
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MICKEY: Next We need to sort out the chain's name issue.
MINNIE: It is ruther the chains names.
SATOSHI: Can't wait to see how that will unfold.
MINNIE: I am not sure that We are clear enough regarding the Free name.
SATOSHI: Yes this need some decoding.
MINNIE: Free name is the heart of our code.
MICKEY: Free with capital F?
MINNIE: Yes, We use capital letters for a term that We have defined precisely in our dialog.
MICKEY: So Free means being a name on Ourchain
SATOSHI: Once on the Birthchain you are already a Free name!
MICKEY: I guess that We use bold and slanted letters to define precisely the name of the chain.
MINNIE: That is correct.
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November 23, 2018, 09:24:39 AM |
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MICKEY: I guess that We use bold and slanted letters to define precisely the name of the chain.
MINNIE: That is correct.
SATOSHI: Good! Now We can code the chains names.
MINNIE: We first need to refresh these names.
MICKEY: Bitchain, Namechain, Birthchain, Newchain, Whichain, Thecahin, Forchain, Mainchain. Ourchain.
MINNIE: These are a lot of chain's names.
SATOSHI: How many chains do we need to define precisely before starting to code?
MINNIE: We are already coding!
MICKEY: Are We?
MINNIE: Yes, We are!.
MICKEY: What do you think Satoshi, are We?
SATOSHI: I know better than to respond to that.
MICKEY: I guess you learn fast.
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November 23, 2018, 10:11:01 AM
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SATOSHI: I know better than to respond to that.
MICKEY: I guess you learn fast.
MINNIE: Do you boys wish to start with Bitchain then?
SATOSHI: Since it is the first on our list, it is a good place to start.
MICKEY: Clever too.
SATOSHI: What would be the name of the coins mined on Bitchain?
MICKEY: Not very clever.
MINNIE: Since Bitcoin is taken by Blockchain I actualy have no problem with Bitchcoin .
SATOSHI: As long as you are coding We can use any name that you wish.
MINNIE: You will need to do much of the proper coding Satoshi, so you have to agree with me on the names before We code it properly.
MICKEY: I agree.
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November 24, 2018, 10:30:03 AM |
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MINNIE: You will need to do much of the proper coding Satoshi, so you have to agree with me on the names before We code it properly.
MICKEY: I agree.
MICKEY: If Satoshi is the chief programmer in our Team and Minnie is the chief architect, what kind of chief that makes me?
SATOSHI: Mouse Chief.
MICKEY: Which makes Minnie Mrs. Chief.
SATOSHI: Miss Chief is more like it.
MICKEY: Then Mischief would be me.
MINNIE: Pleas don't use bold&slanted letters for your silly word games.
SATOSHI: Miss chief it is, chief.
MINNIE: At least until you do your part so we can do without a chief.
SATOSHI: So you want me to program that bold&slanted&name-starting-with-capital-letter, will be a chain's name?.
MICKEY: Even without the name Chain?
MINNIE: Yes.
MICKEY: That is clever.
SATOSHI: And confusing.
MINNIE: And is exactly why We need to be very precise at this stage and not play with words.
SATOSHI: Yes Ma'am.
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November 24, 2018, 02:30:18 PM |
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MINNIE: And is exactly why We need to be very precise at this stage and not play with words.
SATOSHI: Yes Ma'am.
SATOSHI: Minnie, I need you to specify each chain's name and configurations.
MICKEY: Maybe better that she start with the configurations since names are so confusing.
SATOSHI: Only for Toons names are such a complex issue.
MINNIE: True, humans for some reason have much more problems with function.
SATOSHI: I think that I must agree with that.
MICKEY: I do too.
SATOSHI: Must agree?
MICKEY: No, do agree.
MINNIE: We have a lot of work....
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November 24, 2018, 03:00:38 PM |
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MICKEY: No, do agree.
MINNIE: We have a lot of work....
SATOSHI: Where do we start then?
MICKEY: We agree and then we start.
MINNIE: First you act then you name it.
SATOSHI: I always thought that Start is an action..
MINNIE: It is the name of that action.
SATOSHI: So is everything a name?
MINNIE: Everything that we share is first a name.
SATOSHI: I see where this is taking us.
MICKEY: To the starting chain that is First names chain.
SATOSHI: Can we still name it Birthchain?
MICKEY: Or Namechain?
MINNIE: Birthchain is the correct name for the first chain. Namechain it the fourth chain.
MICKEY: So the second chain is the animal names and the third chain is the third names?
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November 27, 2018, 08:27:02 AM
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MINNIE: Birthchain is the correct name for the first chain. Namechain is the fourth chain.
MICKEY: So the second chain is the animal names and the third chain is the third names?
SATOSHI: Birthchain is the correct name for the first Chain. Namechain it the fourth Chain. So the second Chain is the animal names and the third Chain is the third names?
MINNIE: I am not sure that we defined the word Chain precisely enough to use a capital letter when we say it?
MICKEY: Right, We only said that the names of the chain's names don't have to include the name Chain.
MINNIE: Satoshi, Could you quote your first words defining the Chain?
SATOSHI: "The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, , forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work."
MICKEY: So Chain means order of transactions.
SATOSHI: "Each timestamp includes the previous timestamp in its hash, forming a chain, with each additional timestamp reinforcing the ones before it."
MINNIE: It is not the Order but ruther the Action that enforce that order into its shape.
MICKEY: A shape of a chain.
MINNIE: More a Babushka than a chain.
SATOSHI: Or a wheel with in a wheel.
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November 27, 2018, 09:42:54 AM |
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MICKEY: A shape of a chain.
MINNIE: More a Babushka than a chain.
SATOSHI: Or a wheel with in a wheel.
MINNIE: A Chain as We are using it for our chain's names is a definition of a community.
MICKEY: We as a Team or We as a community?
MINNIE: We as a Team.
SATOSHI: How is We as a Team different from We as a Chain?
MICKEY: Or from "We are all Satoshi"?
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