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October 15, 2014, 10:47:17 PM |
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I must mention another possibility that this is only a smaller fractal (wave a) of wave IV. The price ideally should have hit 450, the territory of iv(III). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradingview.com%2Fx%2FYALgjKv2%2F&t=665&c=4FLfmdiRJ9uItg)
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October 15, 2014, 10:54:18 PM |
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Did you short on the 11th, as you advised: OK. seems like b wave has terminated cerca 0.618 of a. a stop above the local top, 370, is an excellent risk reward opportunity for shorts. target 330. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) One can not always win. Trick is to gain most of the times. Right now he is quite cautious.
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October 15, 2014, 11:02:30 PM |
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Did you short on the 11th, as you advised: OK. seems like b wave has terminated cerca 0.618 of a. a stop above the local top, 370, is an excellent risk reward opportunity for shorts. target 330. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) One can not always win. Trick is to gain most of the times. Right now he is quite cautious. I did short at 370, but I also gave a close and buy signal below 370 so who could complain about that? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 15, 2014, 11:42:00 PM |
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Did you short on the 11th, as you advised: OK. seems like b wave has terminated cerca 0.618 of a. a stop above the local top, 370, is an excellent risk reward opportunity for shorts. target 330. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) One can not always win. Trick is to gain most of the times. Right now he is quite cautious. I did short at 370, but I also gave a close and buy signal below 370 so who could complain about that? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Long right now? Reasonably confident or have some doubts?
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October 15, 2014, 11:52:26 PM |
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Did you short on the 11th, as you advised: OK. seems like b wave has terminated cerca 0.618 of a. a stop above the local top, 370, is an excellent risk reward opportunity for shorts. target 330. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) One can not always win. Trick is to gain most of the times. Right now he is quite cautious. I did short at 370, but I also gave a close and buy signal below 370 so who could complain about that? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Long right now? Reasonably confident or have some doubts? I am in no position right now the market is stagnant, could go either way and we need to wait for clarity. I suggested that we stand back since I saw a possible truncated v, which was the top. I gave a long signal at 2390 but I have also suggested to close that too.
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October 16, 2014, 12:42:40 AM |
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Depending on his this impulsive behaviour consolidates, we may be looking for a long signal. stay tuned.
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October 16, 2014, 01:32:23 AM |
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If you like taking a bit of risk to stay ahead, buying at 2430 is a good risk reward entry now, stop loss under 2405. China has not passed critical bear levels, and this impulsive rally could be that illusive v wave we have been looking for. The correction so far is a simple abc and is not showing any conviction to the downside.
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October 16, 2014, 03:53:04 AM |
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Seems like it was a fakeout, no follow through, stagnant market persists. Im closing out 10yuan down.
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October 16, 2014, 02:19:41 PM |
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Seems like it was a fakeout, no follow through, stagnant market persists. Im closing out 10yuan down.
Good call sir!
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October 16, 2014, 06:57:15 PM |
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Are we looking for new lower lows now?
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October 16, 2014, 08:15:29 PM |
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We have a convincing impulsive count to the downside. This means clarity, but it does not change that there are still two possible medium sized pictures here. Being strongly impulsive, it could be the beginning of wave V to all new lows. I think another situation is equally likely, we are in wave B of IV, why? because we failed to reach an important level, 450. How will we know which count it is? if it is wave V count, it will be a lot more predictable than wave B. So lets try a process of elimination. Having said that, right now is a good buy opportunity targeting at least 2350, but only if you can manage your risk very well. stop loss under lows. I have colour coded the two counts that I am following right now, they are both medium term bearish. I give bias to the B of IV count. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradingview.com%2Fx%2FCu6qKIc2%2F&t=665&c=mXl5YTa7K9NfZw)
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October 16, 2014, 08:26:06 PM |
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As noted above, here is the medium term picture. I give bias to b of IV count. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradingview.com%2Fx%2Fhv9hRMuM%2F&t=665&c=lZfZcrqPq5WQGg)
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October 16, 2014, 08:27:44 PM |
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What are the targets for both the scenarios? What are the new lows for Wave V, less than 275?
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October 16, 2014, 08:34:39 PM |
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What are the targets for both the scenarios? What are the new lows for Wave V, less than 275?
for wave V count, probably mid 200s. Cant say more than that for now. For wave B count, we will likely drop slowly and painfully to around 345 before an impulsive (easy to trade) rally takes us to 460
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October 16, 2014, 08:36:34 PM |
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Seems like it was a fakeout, no follow through, stagnant market persists. Im closing out 10yuan down.
Good call sir! Not the kind of call I like to make, but Im glad you see the good in it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 16, 2014, 08:39:59 PM |
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Why it is not a possibility that the move from 275 to 416 was wave (i) of an impulsive I and now (from 416 to 370) would be wave (ii) of the same I?
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October 16, 2014, 08:48:30 PM |
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Seems like it was a fakeout, no follow through, stagnant market persists. Im closing out 10yuan down.
Good call sir! Not the kind of call I like to make, but Im glad you see the good in it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'm starting to think you use black magic given your latest long suggestion ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) well played!
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October 16, 2014, 08:53:06 PM |
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Why it is not a possibility that the move from 275 to 416 was wave (i) of an impulsive I and now (from 416 to 370) would be wave (ii) of the same I?
That's because we haven't completed the impulsive wave down that started at $683. $275 marks the end of Wave 3 so we still need a Wave 4-5 to fully play out before a bottom is reached.
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October 16, 2014, 08:53:18 PM |
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Why it is not a possibility that the move from 275 to 416 was wave (i) of an impulsive I and now (from 416 to 370) would be wave (ii) of the same I?
Anything is possible, but in EW terms, it is very very unlikely that we have an impulse there for two reasons, the initial rally was a weak zig zag, and the hypothetical wave iv crossed the trend defined by wave i. This would suggest wave iii was weaker than i when in fact wave iii is always the strongest move. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradingview.com%2Fx%2FuCdDSV6B%2F&t=665&c=BgCix9ZrtqO_Pw) Take a step back, look at the daily chart. compare this low to 350 low or the 400 low. you see, when bitcoin capitulates, it doesn't mess around afterwards!
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October 16, 2014, 09:00:54 PM |
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Seems like it was a fakeout, no follow through, stagnant market persists. Im closing out 10yuan down.
Good call sir! Not the kind of call I like to make, but Im glad you see the good in it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'm starting to think you use black magic given your latest long suggestion ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) well played! dont speak too soon, we've not hit 2350 yet, only 2349 on huboi ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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