[ANN][CLOAK] Private, Secure, Untraceable & Decentralized Digital Currency

[deepend]

worrying so many pinning hopes on a huge amount of incoming interest because of going open source..

I hope you wont all be disappointed.

To me if enigma works well and can be vetted by a couple of top devs that is all you need.

If the enigma engine is really a big improvement over dash and mixing/shuffling or is rather an advanced better process then you will simply witness 50 other cloaks in short order.

If you believe people are not investing because it is closed source then you might be wrong.

Bring forth a decentralised governance and funding mechanism and you will see more interest.

I guess we'll wait and see but i think it could be a double edged sword.

You make some very good points.  I agree that if it could be vetted, it may be better than open sourcing the code and having the technology stolen.

[TreeAcid]

This was a fun coin when it got pumped for 0.1$ to 1$, now it's just people trying to CPR an air doll 

[CaptNemo]

Ok if we aren't getting a countdown can we get a update on how things are progressing?

[tevayo]

Today, while walking my dog, I have met some friends of my son who know that I trade with BTCs and have been attracted by the bitcoin rally and I have been asked advice about buying cryptocoins.
Of course I have told you about CLOAK and ENIGMA and they have been delighted.
I have advised you to buy small amounts because of the risk involved in any investment in crypto.
I think the bitcoin story should have started the same way (word of mouth) between friends.
Any fire starts with a simple wax.
good luck to everyone

[jioy]

This was a fun coin when it got pumped for 0.1$ to 1$, now it's just people trying to CPR an air doll 

Yes,it is a fun coin,I bounght some.

[LBX]

This was a fun coin when it got pumped for 0.1$ to 1$, now it's just people trying to CPR an air doll 

Yes,it is a fun coin,I bounght some.

fun and it is  good coin

[c4shm3n]

worrying so many pinning hopes on a huge amount of incoming interest because of going open source..

I hope you wont all be disappointed.

To me if enigma works well and can be vetted by a couple of top devs that is all you need.

If the enigma engine is really a big improvement over dash and mixing/shuffling or is rather an advanced better process then you will simply witness 50 other cloaks in short order.

If you believe people are not investing because it is closed source then you might be wrong.

Bring forth a decentralised governance and funding mechanism and you will see more interest.

I guess we'll wait and see but i think it could be a double edged sword.

I share you thoughts but after 3 years closed source we decide to go open source way. Of cause there is always risk to be copy.

We choose this way and we will see what will happend.

There is always some points what speaking for open source and what speak against it.

PS: Dont forgert that we have very talented, smart and motivated fulltime device "Joe" i always belive in him and he proof me this 3 years that i was right with my hope in his talent. To copy a CODE is easy but it is not so easy to understand ENIGMA and i am sure there is not so many CODERs there like "Joe". So let enigma copy we are not worry about. We also plant to continue work on ENIGMA and new parts and projects in CODE. The copier would be always behind us.

peace and love is a KEY dont forget fear is opposite of it!

[tradercouch]

CLOAK going to very hard in price so please seat belt tight

[arbitrage]

If he created completely new code as you are claiming than we do not have anything to worry. Nobody knows how will people react, this is unpredictable. But decision is totally correct and it stands hand in hadn with decentralization, no secrets. Code must be open and this is fact. Our hopes lies now on others ability to recognize code value.

[cryptohunter]

worrying so many pinning hopes on a huge amount of incoming interest because of going open source..

I hope you wont all be disappointed.

To me if enigma works well and can be vetted by a couple of top devs that is all you need.

If the enigma engine is really a big improvement over dash and mixing/shuffling or is rather an advanced better process then you will simply witness 50 other cloaks in short order.

If you believe people are not investing because it is closed source then you might be wrong.

Bring forth a decentralised governance and funding mechanism and you will see more interest.

I guess we'll wait and see but i think it could be a double edged sword.

I share you thoughts but after 3 years closed source we decide to go open source way. Of cause there is always risk to be copy.

We choose this way and we will see what will happend.

There is always some points what speaking for open source and what speak against it.

PS: Dont forgert that we have very talented, smart and motivated fulltime device "Joe" i always belive in him and he proof me this 3 years that i was right with my hope in his talent. To copy a CODE is easy but it is not so easy to understand ENIGMA and i am sure there is not so many CODERs there like "Joe". So let enigma copy we are not worry about. We also plant to continue work on ENIGMA and new parts and projects in CODE. The copier would be always behind us.

peace and love is a KEY dont forget fear is opposite of it!

I understand.

My last suggestion and of course you guys must do as you wish. But just an idea that gives you all the benefits of going open source but not all of the negatives.

Obfuscate the open source code. Like bitbay. So that a lot of nonsense and jibberish is also all over the place and so difficult for coders to understand it.

So people can build from the source
analyse the source for malicious code
get and idea how the code works
but almost impossible to modify and clone.

It is really open source but it is so difficult to clone then and modify.

Anyway of course you must do as you guys choose best for cloak

[arbitrage]

When someone use your code there is no sweeter acknowledge that you did very good job and everybody would like to be like you when they grow up. This Is actually nice PR for developer and its team. They can do with it what they want but success is reserved for main team.

[Viper1]

worrying so many pinning hopes on a huge amount of incoming interest because of going open source..

I hope you wont all be disappointed.

To me if enigma works well and can be vetted by a couple of top devs that is all you need.

If the enigma engine is really a big improvement over dash and mixing/shuffling or is rather an advanced better process then you will simply witness 50 other cloaks in short order.

If you believe people are not investing because it is closed source then you might be wrong.

Bring forth a decentralised governance and funding mechanism and you will see more interest.

I guess we'll wait and see but i think it could be a double edged sword.

I share you thoughts but after 3 years closed source we decide to go open source way. Of cause there is always risk to be copy.

We choose this way and we will see what will happend.

There is always some points what speaking for open source and what speak against it.

PS: Dont forgert that we have very talented, smart and motivated fulltime device "Joe" i always belive in him and he proof me this 3 years that i was right with my hope in his talent. To copy a CODE is easy but it is not so easy to understand ENIGMA and i am sure there is not so many CODERs there like "Joe". So let enigma copy we are not worry about. We also plant to continue work on ENIGMA and new parts and projects in CODE. The copier would be always behind us.

peace and love is a KEY dont forget fear is opposite of it!

As someone who's been "around" Cloak since Bob dumped all over us, this coin has to go open source. Not doing so and/or obfuscating just says it can never be trusted and has something to hide. Once the source is out there, there also needs to be a very serious code review done by some well respected developers (that don't have any stigma of controversy swirling around them). There's far too much bad history behind Cloak to not have any of this happen.

As for others copying it.. Well, I'll be brutal. If Cloak can't progress, compete and be better than any copies, then it deserves to die. Just like any other product/company out there in any industry. I would like to see Cloak succeed after all the crap that's gone on but it should do so in a straight up "fight" in order to "prove" itself as a real contender.

@c4shm3n. I've got to give you props for sticking with this. There's been a few times where I've wanted to come in here and post some negative stuff about the progress but your perseverance is an asset to the coin and, quite frankly, the only reason it still exists.

[c4shm3n]

worrying so many pinning hopes on a huge amount of incoming interest because of going open source..

I hope you wont all be disappointed.

To me if enigma works well and can be vetted by a couple of top devs that is all you need.

If the enigma engine is really a big improvement over dash and mixing/shuffling or is rather an advanced better process then you will simply witness 50 other cloaks in short order.

If you believe people are not investing because it is closed source then you might be wrong.

Bring forth a decentralised governance and funding mechanism and you will see more interest.

I guess we'll wait and see but i think it could be a double edged sword.

I share you thoughts but after 3 years closed source we decide to go open source way. Of cause there is always risk to be copy.

We choose this way and we will see what will happend.

There is always some points what speaking for open source and what speak against it.

PS: Dont forgert that we have very talented, smart and motivated fulltime device "Joe" i always belive in him and he proof me this 3 years that i was right with my hope in his talent. To copy a CODE is easy but it is not so easy to understand ENIGMA and i am sure there is not so many CODERs there like "Joe". So let enigma copy we are not worry about. We also plant to continue work on ENIGMA and new parts and projects in CODE. The copier would be always behind us.

peace and love is a KEY dont forget fear is opposite of it!

As someone who's been "around" Cloak since Bob dumped all over us, this coin has to go open source. Not doing so and/or obfuscating just says it can never be trusted and has something to hide. Once the source is out there, there also needs to be a very serious code review done by some well respected developers (that don't have any stigma of controversy swirling around them). There's far too much bad history behind Cloak to not have any of this happen.

As for others copying it.. Well, I'll be brutal. If Cloak can't progress, compete and be better than any copies, then it deserves to die. Just like any other product/company out there in any industry. I would like to see Cloak succeed after all the crap that's gone on but it should do so in a straight up "fight" in order to "prove" itself as a real contender.

@c4shm3n. I've got to give you props for sticking with this. There's been a few times where I've wanted to come in here and post some negative stuff about the progress but your perseverance is an asset to the coin and, quite frankly, the only reason it still exists.

Thank you!

[lasvegas83]

[cryptohunter]

worrying so many pinning hopes on a huge amount of incoming interest because of going open source..

I hope you wont all be disappointed.

To me if enigma works well and can be vetted by a couple of top devs that is all you need.

If the enigma engine is really a big improvement over dash and mixing/shuffling or is rather an advanced better process then you will simply witness 50 other cloaks in short order.

If you believe people are not investing because it is closed source then you might be wrong.

Bring forth a decentralised governance and funding mechanism and you will see more interest.

I guess we'll wait and see but i think it could be a double edged sword.

I share you thoughts but after 3 years closed source we decide to go open source way. Of cause there is always risk to be copy.

We choose this way and we will see what will happend.

There is always some points what speaking for open source and what speak against it.

PS: Dont forgert that we have very talented, smart and motivated fulltime device "Joe" i always belive in him and he proof me this 3 years that i was right with my hope in his talent. To copy a CODE is easy but it is not so easy to understand ENIGMA and i am sure there is not so many CODERs there like "Joe". So let enigma copy we are not worry about. We also plant to continue work on ENIGMA and new parts and projects in CODE. The copier would be always behind us.

peace and love is a KEY dont forget fear is opposite of it!

As someone who's been "around" Cloak since Bob dumped all over us, this coin has to go open source. Not doing so and/or obfuscating just says it can never be trusted and has something to hide. Once the source is out there, there also needs to be a very serious code review done by some well respected developers (that don't have any stigma of controversy swirling around them). There's far too much bad history behind Cloak to not have any of this happen.

As for others copying it.. Well, I'll be brutal. If Cloak can't progress, compete and be better than any copies, then it deserves to die. Just like any other product/company out there in any industry. I would like to see Cloak succeed after all the crap that's gone on but it should do so in a straight up "fight" in order to "prove" itself as a real contender.

@c4shm3n. I've got to give you props for sticking with this. There's been a few times where I've wanted to come in here and post some negative stuff about the progress but your perseverance is an asset to the coin and, quite frankly, the only reason it still exists.

Your view has of course some merit. Although I don't share this view.

I wasn't aware obfuscation could hide damaging or dirty code.

Also if a few high profile developers peer reviewed it and gave a good report it would probably have an even better marketing effect.

I too do not believe that because a larger team could copy and paste cloaks hard work from many years and perhaps improve upon it at a faster rate than the creator cloak themselves that cloak deserves no credit and indeed deserves to die.

Open source in just my own personal opinion is not essentially the best thing from a cloak holders perspective.

I guess even the future will not reveal which path was the wisest from a cloak investors pov. Since it is impossible to tread both paths from here.

The current dev/project managers mind seems to be made up though so of course that is fine by me I will hold my tiny amount of cloak regardless. If I'd held a larger portion of cloak I would perhaps be more concerned and try a little harder to get the community to push for peer review and obfuscation.

Then again open source is the nature of crypto, so to balance this with the selfish desires of max possible impact of cloak in this sphere is something one has to consider.

[JGoRed]

This was a fun coin when it got pumped for 0.1$ to 1$, now it's just people trying to CPR an air doll 

Yes,it is a fun coin,I bounght some.

It's fun and it has a promising technical side to it. I'm sure at some point people will realize that and we'll see a nice pump.

[investor1]

Don't worry about copies,they're here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1865725.0

[LBX]

Thank you for the update
To make a decision "open source"
I hope it is done at the right time

[jordan coins]

Community has to send messages until they clog the messaging box of them for the Poloniex add CLOAK

[LBX]

Community has to send messages until they clog the messaging box of them for the Poloniex add CLOAK

good idea
I've done it before
Let's try to do it again

Poloniex  is difficult to communicate with them