400 BTC sent to an unknow address. (COINS RETURNED) 40 BTC reward.

[teflone]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49446.msg588947#msg588947

This seems to be somewhat connected?

Maybe I did send coins to cheaper in Bitcoins?

How is anything in that thread related to your 400 coins ? just asking

[Maged]

Where ever you sent the coins, Xenland knows where. It would have been whatever service he sent that bounty from.

Sadly, I'm not familiar with the e-wallet that has their fees set like that. My guess is instawallet, but I don't know for sure.

[twobitcoins]

I got this in an email..

> You sent 1.96 to 1DMLq4UF1yWn9kTC8a6fvVcMzLizuShaz
>    (2011-10-23 txn 369db3a7355339a768e31d8197bdfb6170e73a205deef52caf35b64969c60000)
>
> from there 0.01035843 btc went to 1HZx6ekPuVGuzkePNynTYhno1NefSGa4HT
>    (2011-10-23 txn a5384746ab9ece2733d3b3f13c9e3f6815f428ce0954a735a7742a80c7548965)
>
> and from there 0.995 btc went to 14GRFHDKQgpwkBDfANAum3MBpJsFKBvz9g
>    (2011-10-24 txn 12a9b359421007226c18312ad22c29664209263830991268b08d504027a75d84)
>
>
> That last address is owned by user mute20, see
>  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49446.msg588947#msg588947

And Maged said something about the same company. Maybe we are getting close?

Yes, exactly.  That's one of the addresses mentioned in my post.  Here is my explanation for the other:

Transaction a5384746ab9ece2733d3b3f13c9e3f6815f428ce0954a735a7742a80c7548965, which spent your 1.96 BTC, also spent 0.01053468 BTC, which came from transaction 13b3f304e35a08d7942db489c1d02ce54a65ec0ffbfbb35263c4dbefd3432669.

In that transaction, the 0.01053468 BTC seem to be the change.  The other output was 0.995 BTC to address 1AvZBfz7txnLHsLVna9Liw7tFCKZTgqTyM.  That address was posted by user Cory in the same thread.

So it seems very clear that you sent your 1.96 BTC to the same wallet that Xenland sent his payments from in that thread.  It is not necessarily his wallet -- it could be an online service.

I sent a PM to Xenland and he said:

I checked all my bitcoin wallets and didn't seem to find any 400BTC or anything of that big.

I then asked if he remembered sending those payments from an online service.  His reply:

If memory serves correctly I'm pretty sure I was sending them straight from my wallet but then again I do remmeber not having enough funds and going somwhere else for the payment, perhaps mtgox? campbx? I use to use Bitcoin7 as well back at that time...mmmm i'm pretty sure it it came from my old wallet I'll keep my eye out for backup wallets tho.

[Maged]

It's not CampBX or MtGox - they create a different pattern in the blockchain.

Sadly, Bitcoin7 fits the bill, as far as I know (I'd have to see a bitcoin transfer to/from them to compare). I'm so sorry Goat.
Wait... That's not possible. Give me a sec to think this over...

It could be MtGox. I just don't remember what their pattern looked like back then. Nope. Can't have been them.

[Xenland]

So i keep getting PM's and to stop them all here is my response: From my understanding, Apparently I sent Bitcoins from the Bitcoin address listed in the above reported accidental incident. I've looked through  all my backups and I have not found 401.xx BTC or any outrageously large numbers - actually to my disappointment I found a few satoshis'. Anyways if I do happen to find the wallet I was using I will be sure to alert the OP that I can send the funds.

[Xenland]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49446.msg588947#msg588947

This seems to be somewhat connected?

Maybe I did send coins to cheaper in Bitcoins?

How is anything in that thread related to your 400 coins ? just asking

I'm curious still how I'm involved with this -- especially this address linked in particular i didn't see a connection?

[Maged]

Xenland, were you using a load-balanced client system? Whoever owns this wallet was either constantly switching fees, or they were running more than one client on the same wallet.

[twobitcoins]

How about GLBSE?

I found a reference to a 0.005 BTC withdrawal fee in this post.

Also Xenland uses GLBSE.

Goat, perhaps you sent the 400 BTC to your GLBSE deposit address?

[Maged]

How about GLBSE?

I found a reference to a 0.005 BTC withdrawal fee in this post.

Also Xenland uses GLBSE.

Goat, perhaps you sent the 400 BTC to your GLBSE deposit address?

Verified.

Will there still be the .01 btc withdrawl fee, or are you lowering it to .0005? Is the minimum withdrawl size still in effect?

Withdrawl fee will be 0.001, min withdrawl being 0.5btc, thats reasonable right?

Fees match the pattern.

[twobitcoins]

Could be GLBSE. I think I was using it back then. Not 100% sure.   I sure picked a fail address lol. It's what I get for multitasking, lol.

If you don't see the funds in your GLBSE account, contact Nefario.  He may be able to find the funds in an old wallet.

[brendio]

it is not in my glbse 2 account. i will have to check the 1 account. thanks for the help guys and i will keep you updated.

Old deposit addresses were one-use only (with Nefario needing to manually add repeat deposits).

In 2.0, I think you can reuse addresses.

[BTCurious]

Xenland is misunderstanding.
He has looked for 400 bitcoins in his wallets. This is not the information Goat needs from him.

So it seems very clear that you sent your 1.96 BTC to the same wallet that Xenland sent his payments from in that thread.  It is not necessarily his wallet -- it could be an online service.

The 400 coins of course won't show up in Xenland's wallets. What goat needs to know from Xenland, is who/what service the address belonged to, that both Goat and Xenland sent money to.

Just my 2 cents. Feel free to uh, pm Xenland about this again or something, I'm not going to do that

[Clipse]

Xenland is misunderstanding.
He has looked for 400 bitcoins in his wallets. This is not the information Goat needs from him.

So it seems very clear that you sent your 1.96 BTC to the same wallet that Xenland sent his payments from in that thread.  It is not necessarily his wallet -- it could be an online service.

The 400 coins of course won't show up in Xenland's wallets. What goat needs to know from Xenland, is who/what service the address belonged to, that both Goat and Xenland sent money to.

Just my 2 cents. Feel free to uh, pm Xenland about this again or something, I'm not going to do that

Maybe some donation site? mmm

[Clipse]

my guess is glbse or a donation somewhere...

Faucet maybe? lol

Did it grow by 400BTC by any chance.

[Xenland]

Xenland is misunderstanding.
He has looked for 400 bitcoins in his wallets. This is not the information Goat needs from him.

So it seems very clear that you sent your 1.96 BTC to the same wallet that Xenland sent his payments from in that thread.  It is not necessarily his wallet -- it could be an online service.

The 400 coins of course won't show up in Xenland's wallets. What goat needs to know from Xenland, is who/what service the address belonged to, that both Goat and Xenland sent money to.

Just my 2 cents. Feel free to uh, pm Xenland about this again or something, I'm not going to do that

ehrrr??? That actually sorta cleared up some confusion but still sorta lost how I am required of any information. If I'm being asked what service I sent from its my wallet or glbse or possibly mtgox. but if i'm asked what service I sent it too lol i have no idea.....

[bulanula]

Hope you get your coins back Goat, you are a good guy !

I would have jumped off a roof if I lost 400 BTC

[Xenland]

Xenland is misunderstanding.
He has looked for 400 bitcoins in his wallets. This is not the information Goat needs from him.

So it seems very clear that you sent your 1.96 BTC to the same wallet that Xenland sent his payments from in that thread.  It is not necessarily his wallet -- it could be an online service.

The 400 coins of course won't show up in Xenland's wallets. What goat needs to know from Xenland, is who/what service the address belonged to, that both Goat and Xenland sent money to.

Just my 2 cents. Feel free to uh, pm Xenland about this again or something, I'm not going to do that

ehrrr??? That actually sorta cleared up some confusion but still sorta lost how I am required of any information. If I'm being asked what service I sent from its my wallet or glbse or possibly mtgox. but if i'm asked what service I sent it too lol i have no idea.....

yeah, i do not blame you at all for not remembering, i have no idea what i did 6 months ago either:)

Good luck mate!

[BTCurious]

Xenland is misunderstanding.
He has looked for 400 bitcoins in his wallets. This is not the information Goat needs from him.

So it seems very clear that you sent your 1.96 BTC to the same wallet that Xenland sent his payments from in that thread.  It is not necessarily his wallet -- it could be an online service.

The 400 coins of course won't show up in Xenland's wallets. What goat needs to know from Xenland, is who/what service the address belonged to, that both Goat and Xenland sent money to.

Just my 2 cents. Feel free to uh, pm Xenland about this again or something, I'm not going to do that

ehrrr??? That actually sorta cleared up some confusion but still sorta lost how I am required of any information. If I'm being asked what service I sent from its my wallet or glbse or possibly mtgox. but if i'm asked what service I sent it too lol i have no idea.....

Yeah, they wanted to know what you sent it to. But if you can't remember or can't find out, then that's too bad.
There's 40 BTC if you do remember though.

[twobitcoins]

Yeah, they wanted to know what you sent it to. But if you can't remember or can't find out, then that's too bad.
There's 40 BTC if you do remember though.

No.  The question is what service Xenland was sending from when he made the payments to people in this thread.  According to evidence in the block chain, the service that received Goat's original 1.96 BTC (and the 400 BTC) is the same as the service that sent payments to the addresses in that thread.

I think it is GLBSE.  Goat, did you contact Nefario yet?  I'm trying to resist PMing more people on your behalf.

[Xenland]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=46509.0

I think this might be where my coins went.

Xenland, Did you happen to ever play this game as well?

Thanks.

Oh yeah that brings back nostalgia, that game does... So yeah i'd have to say I have played it before maybe once or twice.