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Any proof for these claims?
Last I saw was 200MH per 6 cards with absurd overclock. How long will these cards survive?
those are new gpu, they can sustain higher overclock, check about the possibility with pascal they can be pushed easily to 1800 core and more the same for amd 480x the proof is one guy doing it in the ethereum(complete guide and anything) forum under linux only for the moment, but soon it should be possible under windows complete guide? ... do you have the link please mate? ... #crysx |
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Any proof for these claims?
Last I saw was 200MH per 6 cards with absurd overclock. How long will these cards survive?
those are new gpu, they can sustain higher overclock, check about the possibility with pascal they can be pushed easily to 1800 core and more the same for amd 480x the proof is one guy doing it in the ethereum(complete guide and anything) forum under linux only for the moment, but soon it should be possible under windows complete guide? ... do you have the link please mate? ... #crysx it was posted few post above, http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/7780/gtx1070-linux-installation-and-mining-clue-goodbye-amd-welcome-nvidia-for-miners#latest |
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June 29, 2016, 10:32:55 AM |
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Any proof for these claims?
Last I saw was 200MH per 6 cards with absurd overclock. How long will these cards survive?
those are new gpu, they can sustain higher overclock, check about the possibility with pascal they can be pushed easily to 1800 core and more the same for amd 480x the proof is one guy doing it in the ethereum(complete guide and anything) forum under linux only for the moment, but soon it should be possible under windows complete guide? ... do you have the link please mate? ... #crysx it was posted few post above, http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/7780/gtx1070-linux-installation-and-mining-clue-goodbye-amd-welcome-nvidia-for-miners#latesttanx amph ... thefarm will be running in two weeks ... one area im building with it is the development side - which means i can now start dabbling with the ubuntu / windows / 'exotic' mining arena - cpu / gpu / asic ... and possibly fpga if wolf would be willing to come on board  ... but that is months down the track ... x11 asics are the first part of the asic testing ... but under windows based systems - we will have a for testbeds to see what all this fuss is about with eth and such ... #crysx |
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks  Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! |
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. |
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... |
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... Trend starts before all 3 cards began shipping. 12Ths increase in difficulty every 4 weeks, looks more like a small batch private ASIC hardware is shipping out each month. I just mentioned it: people might be rushing out to buy more GPUs for Dagger, when ROI is looking unlikely! |
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You also might want to factor in what Eth was doing 3-4 weeks ago... Prices were climbing, things were very bullish so everyone has come out of the woodwork to setup a miner. It wasn't long ago we were $20+ for Eth and then the DAO fiasco hit. So the momentum was already going in this direction for people to stand up rigs due to the profit factor. Now the Eth thing is still unresolved, diff is climbing and price is falling. So it is the perfect storm and likely to stay that way until this DAO fork issue is behind them and people have forgotten about this mess... If that is possible. Until then things are going to be pretty tight on the profit side of the house with diff and prices going the wrong way.
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... Trend starts before all 3 cards began shipping. 12Ths increase in difficulty every 4 weeks, looks more like a small batch private ASIC hardware is shipping out each month. I just mentioned it: people might be rushing out to buy more GPUs for Dagger, when ROI is looking unlikely! Yup, it's Eth babies and mega farms. Eth babies don't know that Eth will go PoS and all the other coins can't support the weight... Megafarms (like genesis that were mentioned) don't care and they have plenty of other assets to function off of as they liquidate their GPU farms when it happens. It's like 2013/14 all over again. Only this time with one coin instead of a bunch of them to support the weight. All the more fragile. SP throwing in the towel isn't helping things either. I mentioned this trend and pointed it out a couple months ago after Eth start growing at a rapid rate and have mentioned it a couple times since as well. Eth babies are people that didn't start mining till this spring with Ethereum, if you didn't get that. |
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... Trend starts before all 3 cards began shipping. 12Ths increase in difficulty every 4 weeks, looks more like a small batch private ASIC hardware is shipping out each month. I just mentioned it: people might be rushing out to buy more GPUs for Dagger, when ROI is looking unlikely! chinese can add gpu like you add cheerios to your cup of milk 30 gpu = 1 giga, so that s 360 gpu, which is nothing for some folks i doubt there are asic for this, too hard and too costly to do |
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June 30, 2016, 10:54:34 AM |
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... Trend starts before all 3 cards began shipping. 12Ths increase in difficulty every 4 weeks, looks more like a small batch private ASIC hardware is shipping out each month. I just mentioned it: people might be rushing out to buy more GPUs for Dagger, when ROI is looking unlikely! chinese can add gpu like you add cheerios to your cup of milk 30 gpu = 1 tera, so that s 360 gpu, which is nothing for some folks i doubt there are asic for this, too hard and too costly to do They may be costly to produce, but they are out there! When Ethereum crashed below 0.014BTC ---- 10THS of difficulty disappeared --- There was no increase in hashpower on Lyra2v2 or neoscrypt Alts  Locked hashpower on Dagger algorithm is summarised as: ASIC Hardware Big investors have dumped all their positions in EXPANSE, because they know there are ASICs out there. |
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June 30, 2016, 10:57:20 AM |
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pure speculations :-)
gtx 1070 on the way to me... let's see if I can fix neoscrypt on it.
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June 30, 2016, 10:59:40 AM |
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... Trend starts before all 3 cards began shipping. 12Ths increase in difficulty every 4 weeks, looks more like a small batch private ASIC hardware is shipping out each month. I just mentioned it: people might be rushing out to buy more GPUs for Dagger, when ROI is looking unlikely! chinese can add gpu like you add cheerios to your cup of milk 30 gpu = 1 tera, so that s 360 gpu, which is nothing for some folks i doubt there are asic for this, too hard and too costly to do They may be costly to produce, but they are out there! When Ethereum crashed below 0.014BTC 10THS of difficulty disappeared There was no increase in hashpower on Lyra2v2 or neoscrypt Alts Locked hashpower on Dagger algorithm is summarised as: ASIC Hardware Big investors have dumped all their positions in EXPANSE, because they know there are ASICs out there. just lag i think , it would be stupid to spend million for an asic chip that can mine ethereum at current rate which is not so profitable like in the good old days pure speculations :-)
gtx 1070 on the way to me... let's see if I can fix neoscrypt on it.
good to hear, i hope you can fix it and increase to 1200-1300 khs |
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June 30, 2016, 11:02:57 AM |
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pure speculations :-)
gtx 1070 on the way to me... let's see if I can fix neoscrypt on it.
Yay! looking forward to see how you go mate, let us know how you go |
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June 30, 2016, 11:08:16 AM |
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... Trend starts before all 3 cards began shipping. 12Ths increase in difficulty every 4 weeks, looks more like a small batch private ASIC hardware is shipping out each month. I just mentioned it: people might be rushing out to buy more GPUs for Dagger, when ROI is looking unlikely! chinese can add gpu like you add cheerios to your cup of milk 30 gpu = 1 tera, so that s 360 gpu, which is nothing for some folks i doubt there are asic for this, too hard and too costly to do They may be costly to produce, but they are out there! When Ethereum crashed below 0.014BTC 10THS of difficulty disappeared There was no increase in hashpower on Lyra2v2 or neoscrypt Alts Locked hashpower on Dagger algorithm is summarised as: ASIC Hardware Big investors have dumped all their positions in EXPANSE, because they know there are ASICs out there. just lag i think , it would be stupid to spend million for an asic chip that can mine ethereum at current rate which is not so profitable like in the good old days pure speculations :-)
gtx 1070 on the way to me... let's see if I can fix neoscrypt on it.
good to hear, i hope you can fix it and increase to 1200-1300 khs Yelp, lag that lasted 12-20 hours. Amazing lag on Ethereum Network, when 23% of hashpower goes missing when price is below 0.014BTC |
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pure speculations :-)
gtx 1070 on the way to me... let's see if I can fix neoscrypt on it.
And a dark knight appears. There is a guy in the Eth miner thread and also post here stating that the bug with NeoS was due to a WDDM issue, which will be fixed in this coming month. He has details on it as well. Good news everyone - the driver for both Win 78/Win 10 insider preview should be available next week - on this driver all Pascal GPUs are able to do the same as on Linux on ether in Win 10 Insider preview without any change
But with Win 7/8 and other algos for win 10 insider preview devs need to take action
If any devs are interested in details PM me - Genoil is informed, it would be nice to fix neoscrypt - if anyone is up to the task - welcome
He explained it differently in Genoil's thread. Something about block size. With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... Trend starts before all 3 cards began shipping. 12Ths increase in difficulty every 4 weeks, looks more like a small batch private ASIC hardware is shipping out each month. I just mentioned it: people might be rushing out to buy more GPUs for Dagger, when ROI is looking unlikely! chinese can add gpu like you add cheerios to your cup of milk 30 gpu = 1 tera, so that s 360 gpu, which is nothing for some folks i doubt there are asic for this, too hard and too costly to do They may be costly to produce, but they are out there! When Ethereum crashed below 0.014BTC 10THS of difficulty disappeared There was no increase in hashpower on Lyra2v2 or neoscrypt Alts Locked hashpower on Dagger algorithm is summarised as: ASIC Hardware Big investors have dumped all their positions in EXPANSE, because they know there are ASICs out there. just lag i think , it would be stupid to spend million for an asic chip that can mine ethereum at current rate which is not so profitable like in the good old days pure speculations :-)
gtx 1070 on the way to me... let's see if I can fix neoscrypt on it.
good to hear, i hope you can fix it and increase to 1200-1300 khs ASICs can hash exponentially faster then GPUs... BTC for instance. A 1070 would hash at a fraction of a percent of a current ASIC. Depending on how fast they can speed up their ASICs, they could potentially outrun the difficulty increase, since it's not a reduction in block reward... Although I don't know how long they could do that for. |
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June 30, 2016, 11:22:15 AM |
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Thanks bensam, I didn't remember that post.
I just PMed vaulter for details.
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... Trend starts before all 3 cards began shipping. 12Ths increase in difficulty every 4 weeks, looks more like a small batch private ASIC hardware is shipping out each month. I just mentioned it: people might be rushing out to buy more GPUs for Dagger, when ROI is looking unlikely! chinese can add gpu like you add cheerios to your cup of milk 30 gpu = 1 tera, so that s 360 gpu, which is nothing for some folks i doubt there are asic for this, too hard and too costly to do They may be costly to produce, but they are out there! When Ethereum crashed below 0.014BTC 10THS of difficulty disappeared There was no increase in hashpower on Lyra2v2 or neoscrypt Alts Locked hashpower on Dagger algorithm is summarised as: ASIC Hardware Big investors have dumped all their positions in EXPANSE, because they know there are ASICs out there. just lag i think , it would be stupid to spend million for an asic chip that can mine ethereum at current rate which is not so profitable like in the good old days pure speculations :-)
gtx 1070 on the way to me... let's see if I can fix neoscrypt on it.
good to hear, i hope you can fix it and increase to 1200-1300 khs Yelp, lag that lasted 12-20 hours. Amazing lag on Ethereum Network, when 23% of hashpower goes missing when price is below 0.014BTC maybe a big chinese farm or something went down due to maintanace, you never know, i don't believe in asic for this, not productive for them |
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June 30, 2016, 11:38:02 AM |
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pure speculations :-)
gtx 1070 on the way to me... let's see if I can fix neoscrypt on it.
And a dark knight appears. There is a guy in the Eth miner thread and also post here stating that the bug with NeoS was due to a WDDM issue, which will be fixed in this coming month. He has details on it as well. Good news everyone - the driver for both Win 78/Win 10 insider preview should be available next week - on this driver all Pascal GPUs are able to do the same as on Linux on ether in Win 10 Insider preview without any change
But with Win 7/8 and other algos for win 10 insider preview devs need to take action
If any devs are interested in details PM me - Genoil is informed, it would be nice to fix neoscrypt - if anyone is up to the task - welcome
He explained it differently in Genoil's thread. Something about block size. With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders? From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year! No... Dagger is designed in a way that makes it extremely ASIC resistant (in addition to being better 'gpu' resistant). This is just megafarms scaling up in addition to all the Eth babies. It's more like someone ( i.e. Genesis etc.) bought batch of 1070s or 1080s or 480s... and paid someone to make /adapt miner... Trend starts before all 3 cards began shipping. 12Ths increase in difficulty every 4 weeks, looks more like a small batch private ASIC hardware is shipping out each month. I just mentioned it: people might be rushing out to buy more GPUs for Dagger, when ROI is looking unlikely! chinese can add gpu like you add cheerios to your cup of milk 30 gpu = 1 tera, so that s 360 gpu, which is nothing for some folks i doubt there are asic for this, too hard and too costly to do They may be costly to produce, but they are out there! When Ethereum crashed below 0.014BTC 10THS of difficulty disappeared There was no increase in hashpower on Lyra2v2 or neoscrypt Alts Locked hashpower on Dagger algorithm is summarised as: ASIC Hardware Big investors have dumped all their positions in EXPANSE, because they know there are ASICs out there. just lag i think , it would be stupid to spend million for an asic chip that can mine ethereum at current rate which is not so profitable like in the good old days pure speculations :-)
gtx 1070 on the way to me... let's see if I can fix neoscrypt on it.
good to hear, i hope you can fix it and increase to 1200-1300 khs ASICs can hash exponentially faster then GPUs... BTC for instance. A 1070 would hash at a fraction of a percent of a current ASIC. Depending on how fast they can speed up their ASICs, they could potentially outrun the difficulty increase, since it's not a reduction in block reward... Although I don't know how long they could do that for. OK, I can tell you don't understand the R&D process. Essentially, engineers look at GPU, with best performance and put together a cheaper (ASIC) prototype, but these have to be produced in batches of 500-1,000. These prototype batches, strip the extra GPU functions not necessary to hashing the algorithm. The engineers keep repeating this process with each batch of prototypes. This process is done in secret and is self-financing so long as news never gets out that this is being done, because the prototype batches produce Alt Coins, which can be sold for BTC and converted into cash to pay for the next generation of prototypes. What the engineers are hoping for is some kind of breakthrough, in this process, which produces chip design that makes vastly more hash output per a unit of electricity. On Dash, X11 prototype batches where being produced 6 months, before the engineers made the breakthrough. The situation on Ethereum is slightly different, the prototype batches have become highly lucrative with Ethereum prices about 0.014BTC to 0.028BTC. So, those engineers who are working on Dagger algorithm are simply chucking out bigger and bigger batches of the prototypes |
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this assumes that you know the gpu chip structure... not sure nvidia or amd want to share that with anybody unless it's themselves doing that. |
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