CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[pallas]

PS. speaking about 100x, pallas is currently sitting on something very interesting.

XCN? If polo or bittrex list it again, we can se a spike in the price..

...and 100 days later it is 100x against btc and 250x against usd.

$400 invested in a gpu 100 days ago 100 x $8= $800
$400 invested in xcn $400 x 250 = $100,000

Butbutbut you can always sell that gpu to gamers...

LoL!
those who believed have been well rewarded.

[sp_]

hmm I sold 20 000 000 Verge @ 3 satoshi 1 year ago.

I saw it peaked at 200 + a few days ago..

Now trading @ 145 satoshi.  Around +5000%

[jpouza]

hmm I sold 20 000 000 Verge @ 3 satoshi 1 year ago.

I saw it peaked at 200 + a few days ago..

Now trading @ 145 satoshi.  Around +5000%

Crypto histories, we never know what is gonna happen.

Even if you held such amount of this altcoin, you just couldn't sell / dump all this into exchanges, there would be not enough buying orders to you, a trade bot would be applicable.

[sp_]

Crypto histories, we never know what is gonna happen.

Even if you held such amount of this altcoin, you just couldn't sell / dump all this into exchanges, there would be not enough buying orders to you, a trade bot would be applicable.

But after the recent increase in the altcoinprices we have many new crypto millionaires. (cryptos)

Cheers to the #cryptos

[humpi]

Thanks for the LBRY mod

I am getting 290+mh/s on yiimp and suprnova, but only 240 on coinmine.pl?

how come on coinmine it wont go past the base core clock (1582mhz)?

[Slava_K]

For coinmine it is normal. Its stratum bugs.

[restless]

The 1060 6gb cannot do 25mhash ethereu.. Stock clocks aound 15-18mhash. With oc 18,20 or 22. Depends on the memory type.
Hynix is slowest, then micron and samsung is the fastest.

How big is the difference between 3Gb and 6GB versions?
Is it worth to buy (say) 6GB for 250 euro, instead of 3Gb for 200e ?

[Amph]

hmm I sold 20 000 000 Verge @ 3 satoshi 1 year ago.

I saw it peaked at 200 + a few days ago..

Now trading @ 145 satoshi.  Around +5000%

Crypto histories, we never know what is gonna happen.

Even if you held such amount of this altcoin, you just couldn't sell / dump all this into exchanges, there would be not enough buying orders to you, a trade bot would be applicable.

that's why it's better to hold everything, and risk to lose on 99 coin, but then get 5000% return on a single one

PS. speaking about 100x, pallas is currently sitting on something very interesting.

XCN? If polo or bittrex list it again, we can se a spike in the price..

...and 100 days later it is 100x against btc and 250x against usd.

$400 invested in a gpu 100 days ago 100 x $8= $800
$400 invested in xcn $400 x 250 = $100,000

Butbutbut you can always sell that gpu to gamers...

no sense to buy if you have a big farm running already that hit roi multiple times

your comparison doesn't make much sense

you pay those xcn the cost of your electricity which is far lower than buying on market with bitcoin

[humpi]

Can anyone explain why my TDP% is only around 40%. Then once in a while it will jump up to 80% for a about 10-30s? Then comes back down to 40?

Shouldn't this stay consistent during mining?



Thank you

[antantti]

no sense to buy if [add something here]

Hahahaha, no sense to buy. If and but and then some more buts and ifs... southern mathematics.

you pay those xcn the cost of your electricity which is far lower than buying on market with bitcoin

Miner is always late. Always.

[Amph]

no sense to buy if [add something here]

Hahahaha, no sense to buy. If and but and then some more buts and ifs... southern mathematics.

you pay those xcn the cost of your electricity which is far lower than buying on market with bitcoin

Miner is always late. Always.

well almost everyone here have 10 rig right? everyone here already roi'ed with his rig, minus newcomers which doesn't matter

i'll make an example, when xcn was at 20 satoshi, with 10 rig you could have mined 1 million a day, instead of buying the same amount for 0.2 btc or $500

i would have paid only 1 day of electricity to mine that 1 million...which is basically free coins

[antantti]

well almost everyone here have 10 rig right? everyone here already roi'ed with his rig, minus newcomers which doesn't matter

i'll make an example, when xcn was at 20 satoshi, with 10 rig you could have mined 1 million a day, instead of buying the same amount for 0.2 btc or $500

i would have paid only 1 day of electricity to mine that 1 million...which is basically free coins

Bad trolling, sorry about that. But your math still sucks. And your example sucks even more and you know that ))

Here's the full quote:

PS. speaking about 100x, pallas is currently sitting on something very interesting.

XCN? If polo or bittrex list it again, we can se a spike in the price..

nah too old, and it's better to buy price is almost dead, you can buy 1M with 0.08 or less

So you didn't buy? ))

To be more on topic, how is your xcn hashrate poolside? 1070 should do at least 15-16MH but can you see that on pool?

[Lordaster]

xevan support will be?

[bensam1231]

AMD 100% is the best choice right now if you exclude the shortages. If you can get your hands on 580s for less then $300 or even $400 they're worth buying. They use the same amount of energy as a 1070 (give or take), and you can mine mainstream coins with them to get decent revenue.

While $300 is indeed a good price for 480/580 8gb cards, I see no point buying them for $400. That's a GTX 1070 price, and I think it's just a better card overall. Better in gaming, and better in most mining algos. I mostly have 1060s and 1080s in my nvidia rigs, but just yesterday added a 1070 to one of them. Without much tinkering, it's mining ETH at 31 MH/s (+700 MHz Micron memory) @ ~110W, so pretty much on par with Polaris. It's a lot faster on Equihash though (~450 sol vs 300 sol). Slower in cryptonight (no one is mining it with GPUs now, but still it's a mainstream algo so should be mentioned). And while there are of course niche algorithms that run faster on amd cards, for the past year or so nvidia did have more of those. Lbry, Lyra, Skein, Neoscrypt - those are just what came to mind instantly. I can't recall anything like those for AMDs at the moment (they most likely exist, I just don't know or don't remember any).

I'm not a fan of anything and don't care about brands at all, but when presented with a choice between amd 580 or nvidia 1070 for the same price — I'd definitely get the nvidia. Simply because it's a more powerful gpu overall.

It doesn't matter what's a 'better card' as far as pricing or how they're marketed. A 1070 is actually worse then a 580 for mining. Look at how much you're making with Equihash, then look at how much you're making with Eth+Sia. Eth+SIA/DCR/PASC are much much more stable then equihash is due to market size, volume, and difficulty. A 580 is not only worth more then $400, it's a better deal even at that price then a 1070 as a 1070 can't compete anywhere. A 1070 is a inferior card unless you find a niche coin to mine (which AMD also has). Niche coins don't even factor into a comparison as they're easily saturated, the markets tend to crash, and they generally they don't last long.

If you're worth your salt as a miner you should be dual mining (which you aren't doing). You'll notice that you're making quite a bit less with a 1070 compared to a 580 due to the assembly changes Claymore added, which aren't present for Nvidia and no one is making (IE a better dual miner I mentioned before).

A 1070 is ONLY a more powerful GPU when you consider how they're presented originally and the markets they fulfill outside of mining.

AMD 100% is the best choice right now if you exclude the shortages. If you can get your hands on 580s for less then $300 or even $400 they're worth buying. They use the same amount of energy as a 1070 (give or take), and you can mine mainstream coins with them to get decent revenue. With Nvidia you have to mine niche coins which are easily saturated or you make like 30% less with a 1070 vs a 580 (Equihash vs Eth+Sia). AMD also has niche coins, which you can also find that Nvidia is bad at.

Mainstream coins offer stability and safeguards against your revenue dropping out from under you, either due to a big miner hoping on it, buy support disappearing, or the market just outright crashing. There is absolutely no reason to buy Nvidia. You offer absolutely no points to back up your argument besides 'Nvidia best4evar'. I mean I want to feel good about the $10k worth of hardware I bought too, but that's not the way reality works.

current generation of polaris cards (rx470, rx480, rx570, rx580) has this tlb trashing bug again with epoch from current and higher loosing half of hashrate on epoch 199.
It is observed with claymore miner with current drivers. Dunno if it can be fixed. So if nothing will change you will be sticked to low epoch dagger-hashimoto coins just like with Tahiti cards.

I'm almost 100% sure this is fixed with GCN 2 and higher cards. I have not seen this with Claymore miner on my AMD rigs, they're still mining at pretty much exactly what they were when they first came out. If you're getting subpar hashrate either your memory speed is lower, you have bad type of memory, or you haven't tweaked your latency properly. Hawaii is GCN 3, Polaris is GCN 4.

If it isn't fixed, do you have a source besides 'you can see it with claymore now' which isn't observable?

[wacko]

If you're worth your salt as a miner you should be dual mining (which you aren't doing).

Lol. Dual mining is not always the best way to go. You're pushing your personal opinion like it's a fact — just the same way you're doing it with your "polaris are better cards than gtx 1070". It's not as black and white as you're trying to paint it. Ideally we'd all have our own warehouses with virtually unlimited power and cooling, and then sure — dual mining it is. But in the real world (where most miners live, including the ones that are "worth their salt"), there's always a power limit. For me, there's a couple locations I can put my rigs in "for free", but when I run out of space/power in those — I can only rent apartments and put new rigs there. Renting is the cheapest way to add more rigs in my area, but it's still quite an expense. Cards are a lot hotter and louder in dual mining, consuming significantly more power, and it's just not worth it for me. I can run ~60 cards in dual mining and hit my power limit per location, or I can run ~80-90 cards in ETH only mining, hitting the same power limit in the same location.. the 2nd scenario results in more btc/day. I'd rather invest in extra GPUs and run them in ETH only than dual mine — more profitable in my case, especially at the current crazy high crypto exchange rates.

[GOLDbarISmine]

I am not convinced dual mining in geforce cards but radeon is another story.

[rednoW]

I'm almost 100% sure this is fixed with GCN 2 and higher cards. I have not seen this with Claymore miner on my AMD rigs, they're still mining at pretty much exactly what they were when they first came out. If you're getting subpar hashrate either your memory speed is lower, you have bad type of memory, or you haven't tweaked your latency properly. Hawaii is GCN 3, Polaris is GCN 4.

If it isn't fixed, do you have a source besides 'you can see it with claymore now' which isn't observable?

you are either lazy or stupid. This is the biggest news in mining and discussed and admitted everywhere. Just use --benchmark option in claymore and you'll see that polaris cards are loosing 0.1-0.2 mhs from each new DAG. This started 2 epochs ego.

[Amph]

well almost everyone here have 10 rig right? everyone here already roi'ed with his rig, minus newcomers which doesn't matter

i'll make an example, when xcn was at 20 satoshi, with 10 rig you could have mined 1 million a day, instead of buying the same amount for 0.2 btc or $500

i would have paid only 1 day of electricity to mine that 1 million...which is basically free coins

Bad trolling, sorry about that. But your math still sucks. And your example sucks even more and you know that ))

Here's the full quote:

PS. speaking about 100x, pallas is currently sitting on something very interesting.

XCN? If polo or bittrex list it again, we can se a spike in the price..

nah too old, and it's better to buy price is almost dead, you can buy 1M with 0.08 or less

So you didn't buy? ))

To be more on topic, how is your xcn hashrate poolside? 1070 should do at least 15-16MH but can you see that on pool?

at that time was different, the profit was very bad, the diff was very high and the value lower, but now is't different nitpicking from the past to prove a point in the future is a mistake

my example doesn't sucks, there is nothing wrong about what i said, it's better to mine if you have already the gear that roi'ed, buying is utterly stupid in that case

[bensam1231]

If you're worth your salt as a miner you should be dual mining (which you aren't doing).

Lol. Dual mining is not always the best way to go. You're pushing your personal opinion like it's a fact — just the same way you're doing it with your "polaris are better cards than gtx 1070". It's not as black and white as you're trying to paint it. Ideally we'd all have our own warehouses with virtually unlimited power and cooling, and then sure — dual mining it is. But in the real world (where most miners live, including the ones that are "worth their salt"), there's always a power limit. For me, there's a couple locations I can put my rigs in "for free", but when I run out of space/power in those — I can only rent apartments and put new rigs there. Renting is the cheapest way to add more rigs in my area, but it's still quite an expense. Cards are a lot hotter and louder in dual mining, consuming significantly more power, and it's just not worth it for me. I can run ~60 cards in dual mining and hit my power limit per location, or I can run ~80-90 cards in ETH only mining, hitting the same power limit in the same location.. the 2nd scenario results in more btc/day. I'd rather invest in extra GPUs and run them in ETH only than dual mine — more profitable in my case, especially at the current crazy high crypto exchange rates.

Personal opinion...? Neither a 580 or a 1070 makes more without dual mining compared to mining ethereum straight (including power).

I'm not painting as black and white... lol, hence why we're talking about volume of coins, market stability, emission, and saturation.

You're trying to argue power costs. A 580 and a 1070 use about the same amount of power while dual mining. Furthermore, you're comparing using about $.10 at $.1KWH per day for an additional $1.3 (eth+sia) while dual mining. Electricity costs stopped mattering this last spring relatively speaking. They may matter again in the future, but as of right now you're literally taking a $1.2 loss because you don't want to spend more power. I'm sure since you're a miner worth his own weight you've already looked into this.

You'd have to have extremely expensive power to justify not dual mining. Either way a 1070 is using just about the same amount of power as a 580 while dual mining (tweaking your voltage reduces voltage on 580s as well). The only algo a 1070 can mine while reducing clockspeed (IE TDP) and get ahead without a proportional reduction to hashrate is Equihash, even then power costs in no way justify it.

Yeah, you're arguing cooling. If you're using AC this conversation is done.

Look into small warehouses in cheap parts of town. Your solution of 'filling rental units' with miners is completely asinine and not something most people will encounter. Right along the same lines, here's a better idea which is still stupid, rent a house with a 200 amp service. Most newer houses (80s forward) will have a 200 amp service. Once again it doesn't really matter as power usage is very similar and your scenario applies to both AMD and Nvidia.

There is no efficiency benefit to using Nvidia over AMD. MAYBE if you're comparing a 1060 while mining to a 580, sure... But we aren't, because once again the price classes for mining are completely different compared to mining. A 1070 will make less then a 580, cost more, and use about the same amount of power. There literally is no other way to break it down Nvidia is absolutely a terrible choice. The only people that are disagreeing are those that have no experience with both types of hardware, experience with mining multiple cryptos, or are stuck on this 'AMD has to be terrible at power lululueoolrer'.

And no, they aren't 'a lot hotter and louder'. That's written by someone who has no experience with dual mining, you're basing it off what you read in claymores thread, by other retards who are also regurgitating what they heard without actually taking time to test it themselves. And then 'oh my 22awg wire connectors melted, claymore is at fault, never dual mining again!'. This is why most of you aren't worth talking to.

I'm almost 100% sure this is fixed with GCN 2 and higher cards. I have not seen this with Claymore miner on my AMD rigs, they're still mining at pretty much exactly what they were when they first came out. If you're getting subpar hashrate either your memory speed is lower, you have bad type of memory, or you haven't tweaked your latency properly. Hawaii is GCN 3, Polaris is GCN 4.

If it isn't fixed, do you have a source besides 'you can see it with claymore now' which isn't observable?

you are either lazy or stupid. This is the biggest news in mining and discussed and admitted everywhere. Just use --benchmark option in claymore and you'll see that polaris cards are loosing 0.1-0.2 mhs from each new DAG. This started 2 epochs ego.

Nice source. That's sarcasm, you literally didn't list one and cited 'common knowledge' for something I'm not finding sources on. Cards do lose hashrate per epoch, all of them do. That has to do with dealing with bigger and bigger epochs, it's nothing exclusive to AMD.

But since it's 'discussed and admitted' everywhere I'm sure you can easily find me a source for this, right? XD

[Genoil]

it is true bensam. i tried on my old wonky miner and it shows the same drop. dunno if it's exactly the same issue, afaik AMD arch doesn't even have a TLB. now let's see how that 1070 holds up