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August 16, 2017, 10:53:50 AM |
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Most farm owners have 1060 and 1070 cards. The 1080 and 1080ti series are to expensive, and the most profitable algos on the 1080's will soon have ASIC's.
It will be very interesting to know what algos are most profitable on 1080 and not so on 1060/1070? If Asics kill one algo then it wil kill profit for all 10 series or any other GPU.
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abudfv2008
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August 16, 2017, 10:57:41 AM |
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So i think the point is that you can't make e.g. equihash faster than EWBF? Or a Dual miner for eth+skunk/bitcore/tribus/nist5/skein/...
The point is that custom work on these algos are worth more than a 0.05BTC donation. Claymore is making around 1,7BTC a day on his 2% miner.. Yes, because he made something new and special, not only tricks and someone elses work usage  I think if you could you would already release 2.5%Devfee miner faster then Claymores. 
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abudfv2008
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August 16, 2017, 11:03:45 AM |
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he also have 1200 gpu i find it absurd that he can't afford a single 1080ti.....
Really? Doubt it. 1200 * 3$ day * 30day = 108000$ month. Making this farm faster 10-20-30% by internal use miners will give him much more profit then X0.05BTC "donations".
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sp_ (OP)
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August 16, 2017, 11:05:13 AM |
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Yes, because he made something new and special, not only tricks and someone elses work usage  I think if you could you would already release 2.5%Devfee miner faster then Claymores.  Dual mining is nothing new. If you know some history, I made a DualMiner before Claymore based on Genoils work. I also suggestested the dual approach right after the launch of ethereum. Back when the coin was trading below $1. Claymore have the money and resources to hire a team of experienced developers. His work on the NVIDIA dual miner is not optimal. More can be done.
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August 16, 2017, 11:06:05 AM |
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he also have 1200 gpu i find it absurd that he can't afford a single 1080ti.....
Really? Doubt it. 1200 * 3$ day * 30day = 108000$ month. Making this farm faster 10-20-30% by internal use miners will give him much more profit then X0.05BTC "donations". I don't have 1200gpu's. But I have many gpu's running private binaries not for public distribution.. My 0.05 btc kernels are spread and sold for pocketmoney. Ppl don't understand that every miner share the same pot of coins.. If you spread the miner to your friend, and he spread it to his friend.. etc. The advantage is gone.
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abudfv2008
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August 16, 2017, 11:07:45 AM |
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Claymore have the money and resources to hire a team of experienced developers. His work on the NVIDIA dual miner is not optimal. More can be done.
We all hold the breath waiting for your improved "spmod" version. 
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August 16, 2017, 11:09:39 AM |
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So i think the point is that you can't make e.g. equihash faster than EWBF? Or a Dual miner for eth+skunk/bitcore/tribus/nist5/skein/...
The point is that custom work on these algos are worth more than a 0.05BTC donation. Claymore is making around 1,7BTC a day on his 2% miner.. That is the point I make to you sometime back. Do the same way, 2% fee base on all your mod. you will earn more than 2btc a day soon! Why just look at the one time charge?
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jimmykl
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August 16, 2017, 11:09:54 AM |
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Most farm owners have 1060 and 1070 cards. The 1080 and 1080ti series are to expensive, and the most profitable algos on the 1080's will soon have ASIC's.
Reeeeallllly… any hints on what these algos might be?
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August 16, 2017, 11:13:32 AM |
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blake2s, skein,lbry...
Simple to do on the FPGA
A blake2s variant asic (siacoin) has already been launched.
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August 16, 2017, 11:15:27 AM |
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That is the point I make to you sometime back. Do the same way, 2% fee base on all your mod. you will earn more than 2btc a day soon! Why just look at the one time charge?
Or grow the farm to 10 000 cards and live of the private bins..
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abudfv2008
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August 16, 2017, 11:17:16 AM |
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blake2s, skein,lbry...
Simple to do on the FPGA
And they are not profitable on 1060/1070? Wow.
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abudfv2008
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August 16, 2017, 11:18:29 AM |
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That is the point I make to you sometime back. Do the same way, 2% fee base on all your mod. you will earn more than 2btc a day soon! Why just look at the one time charge?
Or grow the farm to 10 000 cards and live of the private bins.. 10000GPU require much more investments at start. Releasing 2% devfee advanced miner requires nothing more then skills. You have them? We hold the breath 
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August 16, 2017, 11:23:50 AM |
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I have already made a private zcash miner that is around 15% faster than the dj-ezo kernel. It's the same speed as the latest EWFB kernel and no fee
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abudfv2008
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August 16, 2017, 11:59:07 AM |
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I have already made a private zcash miner that is around 15% faster than the dj-ezo kernel. It's the same speed as the latest EWFB kernel and no fee
If it is the same just release it with 1-1.5%fee and everyone will use yours you will earn much more than 0.05. Or make it 5% fater and put 2% fee. So whats your choice? 
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August 16, 2017, 12:38:37 PM |
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I think the next update will be bitcore #3
Looking forward to your updates
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August 16, 2017, 12:58:49 PM |
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Yes, because he made something new and special, not only tricks and someone elses work usage  I think if you could you would already release 2.5%Devfee miner faster then Claymores.  Dual mining is nothing new. If you know some history, I made a DualMiner before Claymore based on Genoils work. I also suggestested the dual approach right after the launch of ethereum. Back when the coin was trading below $1. Claymore have the money and resources to hire a team of experienced developers. His work on the NVIDIA dual miner is not optimal. More can be done. I don't remember Your DualMiner. But I remember that I revealed possibility of dual mining ETH and SIA: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1509849.msg15186324#msg15186324
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August 16, 2017, 01:00:27 PM |
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With a 1080ti, I can spend a few hours on every mod I have made to improve the speed.
sp_, please make one. I think there are many miners using 1080ti as well :3
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jimmykl
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August 16, 2017, 01:41:51 PM |
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blake2s, skein,lbry...
Simple to do on the FPGA
A blake2s variant asic (siacoin) has already been launched.
Ah that's right. It'll be interesting to see how Obelisk goes. Guess some will still be put off by no resale once the next gen of ASIC comes out and if they can deliver the specced performance and on time. Fun times.
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August 16, 2017, 01:43:59 PM |
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Sigt #7 vs OS miner 1080 TI 54.5 vs 54 1080 41.8 vs 41 1070 31.1 vs 30? 1060 3GB 19.3 vs 17.8
100% power, +75-100 core, -502 mem. Big win for 1060 3gb, decent for others.
Edit, set -i 25.5 on 1080 TI, now get 55.75. Can't use on other cards, get OOM error.
Thanks, i got the mail and i am testing #7. Is there any dev fee in this version (#7) ?
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August 16, 2017, 02:25:24 PM |
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Yes, because he made something new and special, not only tricks and someone elses work usage  I think if you could you would already release 2.5%Devfee miner faster then Claymores.  Dual mining is nothing new. If you know some history, I made a DualMiner before Claymore based on Genoils work. I also suggestested the dual approach right after the launch of ethereum. Back when the coin was trading below $1. Claymore have the money and resources to hire a team of experienced developers. His work on the NVIDIA dual miner is not optimal. More can be done. I don't remember Your DualMiner. But I remember that I revealed possibility of dual mining ETH and SIA: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1509849.msg15186324#msg15186324No, this predates far further back then that. Neither SP, nor Wolf0, nor Claymore, nor you suggested it first. It came about from a brainstorming session in this thread. Couple of us were BSing around with the idea of extra overhead available in Nvidia hardware due to its inefficiencies with memory hard algos. STREAMING DAG GENERATION SAVES TIME--
The on-the-fly generation of the DAG file on the GPU(s) of a mining rig is accomplished in approximately 5 seconds. On-disk generation can take as many minutes, or more.
The GPU begins to mine much more quickly. Less down-time means more profit from active mining. Also, there is no need to monitor a mining rig for disk space, especially if the system is on a 16GB USB stick. My 16GB mining image is now easier and faster to operate. --scryptr
For me it's about five minutes every couple days... We're talking fractional percent here. Admittedly I have semi-decent CPUs so it isn't as bad for me, but it still shouldn't take more then 20 minutes with like a AMD APU. 1.1 pre-release is out: https://github.com/Genoil/cpp-ethereum/tree/110/- no more DAG files (both CUDA/OpenCL) - CUDA Compute 2.0 support is back It looks like it's all working but I'm releasing early so you can help me test. Don't forget to remove your -E and -R params, that is all gone now. CPU util seems down, RAM usage down of course. CPU validation is still in there, using the light cache. no devfee, but do send me some ETH if you like it  Dual miner and I'll definitely send you some BTC again. Cool idea with the streaming DAG though. It's not my idea, it's Wolf0's (or sp_'s even if you look at it differently) and Claymore implemented it first  . I don't have time for a dual, but I also said that about the streaming DAG  Actually, I implemented it first - which is how I knew it worked - in my custom sgminer. If you did, you never talked about it, much like other things that actually help normal miners. Gotta keep it all yourself you know. Pallas or Berthrolobo or whatever his name was talked about it last year some time in the SP thread and I kept poking at it, especially after the Claymore release. Which means, as always, it really doesn't even matter what you're doing. Christ, you're fucking stupid. Giving Claymore the idea wasn't talking about it? Claymore's release came around this last spring. That's not the timeline I quoted. "especially after" means a increase in frequency, not the beginning. Dude is following me like a lost puppy, except he has a bone to pick.
You realize you joined the conversation after me and the original quote thread includes my quote which predates yours? As far as a bone to pick. Just setting things right. You seem to like taking liberties and bragging when you don't have anything to brag about. Here's your proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg14677943#msg14677943And yeah, I did - but the second I post, you always have shit to say. We're talking about two different things here. I was talking about a dual miner and where the idea came from, not the streaming DAG idea. Pretty sure you could've figured that out from my first second post including the extra bits you snipped out of my posts when quoting them. Genoil mentions the DAG gen on GPU idea, and that it was my idea, but Claymore implemented it first. I correct him on that, and it's obvious I'm talking about the DAG generation. Then you jump in with some half-cocked bullshit, and when I prove you wrong, you go "I meant something else." Either you have a hard time reading, or you got proved wrong and now want to backpedal. I jumped in? Look at the quote tree you continually quote dude. I was talking to Genoil, then you jumped in. It's pretty obvious I was talking about the dual miner. Go figure you can't figure out what I'm talking about when you selectively read everything. I have and have had no interest in a streaming DAG, we've talked about a dual miner quite a bit in SPs thread. I've also talked about it elsewhere on the forums... like this specific thread multiple times and I've talked about it in Claymores thread. You can't even gracefully understand a misunderstanding... This would normally be seen as a mutual misunderstanding, everything I was talking about was referring to the dual miner. Matter of a fact if anything I actually understood there was a misunderstanding while you keep trying to grind your heels in regardless of what's happening. If you want to act like a asshole... when I was talking about you gaining more profit from using it, what sort of extra profit does a streaming DAG generate? Or are you that full of yourself that you assume anything you do makes profits? You save a couple GB on HD space, which means you can buy a smaller HD? Maybe the little bit of time the miner spends regenerating the DAG every couple days could be bypassed? It's nice from a utility and maintenance standpoint, but doesn't earn you more money in any notable form. I haven't even upgraded to the new version because the bugs outweigh a tried and true system. It's not a feature I was even looking for, especially with DAG cleanup. Backpedal my ass, that was me closing the argument because it was a misunderstanding rather then rail you on the fact you were completely ignorant to what's going on... even after it's over and I showed you what was happening you still didn't even go back and look at the quotes and are STILL trying to perpetuate what we were talking about as if it somehow still has meaning. Actually, what kind of profit does a DAG on GPU generate? Well, good question. When building out a farm, it means you can use a lot less RAM per rig, which does save money - you can save on HDDs, too. But meh, fuck it. I finally managed to improve this damned thing, so I'm happy enough to not give a fuck less  Ah back to bragging, I guess that's a step in the right direction... You don't need ram, it's always pagefile. As long as you have a adequately big drive (or use USB) you can build out your pagefile quite a bit while maintaining a small amount of memory. There is no performance trade off as it often time seems as though the pagefile isn't even actively used, it's just used as a placeholder after loading. With SSDs any sort of gap is even smaller. That is about as far back as I care to dig. I definitely made posts on this in Genoil's thread on the Ethereum forums before that above snippet and it was discussed even further back in this thread predating Ethereum (specifically pertaining to NeoS and Monero). You can dig away.
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