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[amesterdamer]

I'm not trying to kill bitcointalk, that just nonsense! (LOL). I'm just telling that this thread is not Official and I just share here some info how people see bitcointalk nowadays.

It's kind of fucked up when people post things that you don't like to read right?

Disclaimer: I've never been impolite and I share my sources, like you've said "All opinions are welcomed!" and this are my opinions. Period.

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[altcoinUK]

I doing so. I'm telling that this thread is not Official and I just share here some info how people see bitcointalk nowadays.

It's kind of fucked up when people post things that you don't like to read right?

Disclaimer: I've never been impolite and I share my sources, but like you've said "All opinions are welcomed!" and this are my opinions. Period.

OK, that's fair enough if you feel that you need to share your opinion that this is not an official thread please to do so (though no one think this is the official thread, and if I would want to I could make it exactly same as the original one, I didn't want to, so I kept only one image from the original and put my comments), but sharing your opinion, which welcomed one thing and spamming is another matter.

Your opinion is certainly welcomed in this unmoderated thread, and very well done, you should share your opinion more frequently :-)) that's why this thread is here :-))) ...  but spamming is not an opinion sharing as you know that.

Please stop the spamming, otherwise I will make it look like the official thread, and you will be more upset what I certainly don't want. :-))

[onsightit]

Sorry but the voting results where like this :

Keep btctalk 53.9%
Keep it as is   - 28 (44.4%)
Close it and start a new btctalk thread   - 6 (9.5%)

End btctalk 46%
End it with link to new forum   - 17 (27%)
Delete it and link to new forum   - 12 (19%)


SO why make a voting, if they have decieded to close it anyways.
The majority voted for having a btctalk thread and leave the old one open.

You cannnot count " Close it and start a new btctalk thread  " to "End btctalk" this is a contradiction.

So the majority voted to keep an unmoderated thread here in Bitcontalk and EffectsToCause interpreted this as the vote for closing it down forever. After all he is a scientists so he can twist the data to suit it for his own agenda.

The VRC team couldn't even manage to carry out with integrity a simple community voting ... that's great ... that's what VeriCoin became, a corrupted process.

I am glad I didn't even take part in their voting circus. I was sure it will be shamble even I couldn't imagine how a simple community voting can be corrupted, but never mind, EffectsToCause could manage that.

Sorry AltcoinUK, your logic is flawed. The majority voted to shut it down in some fashion.  Then, someone named Jon, decided "Close it and start a new btctalk thread" meant "Keep it", so he (see above) moved it to the "Keep" column.  Ironically, that is exactly what happened, so everyone should be happy now.

BTW: I am disappointed that you of all people did not vote.

PS: The Official VeriCoin Forum for news and announcements is: http://vericoinforums.com

[altcoinUK]

@amesterdamer

Thanks for demonstrating the mentality and true nature of a VeriCoin hardcore cheerleader. The DEVs must be proud of you, and you are a perfect fit into that corrupted operation that promises constant development for investors and then do nothing except work for other coins (ARCH).

Following your appearance we have a better understanding why the prices is 5K of this stagnating coin.

Keep up the good work: -)))

[amesterdamer]

@amesterdamer

Thanks for demonstrating the mentality and true nature of a VeriCoin hardcore cheerleader. The DEVs must be proud of you, and you are a perfect fit into that corrupted operation that promises constant development for investors and then do nothing except work for other coins (ARCH).

Following your appearance we have a better understanding why the prices is 5K of this stagnating coin.

Keep up the good work: -)))

[altcoinUK]

Sorry but the voting results where like this :

Keep btctalk 53.9%
Keep it as is   - 28 (44.4%)
Close it and start a new btctalk thread   - 6 (9.5%)

End btctalk 46%
End it with link to new forum   - 17 (27%)
Delete it and link to new forum   - 12 (19%)


SO why make a voting, if they have decieded to close it anyways.
The majority voted for having a btctalk thread and leave the old one open.

You cannnot count " Close it and start a new btctalk thread  " to "End btctalk" this is a contradiction.

So the majority voted to keep an unmoderated thread here in Bitcontalk and EffectsToCause interpreted this as the vote for closing it down forever. After all he is a scientists so he can twist the data to suit it for his own agenda.

The VRC team couldn't even manage to carry out with integrity a simple community voting ... that's great ... that's what VeriCoin became, a corrupted process.

I am glad I didn't even take part in their voting circus. I was sure it will be shamble even I couldn't imagine how a simple community voting can be corrupted, but never mind, EffectsToCause could manage that.

Sorry AltcoinUK, your logic is flawed. The majority voted to shut it down in some fashion.  Then, someone named Jon, decided "Close it and start a new btctalk thread" meant "Keep it", so he (see above) moved it to the "Keep" column.  Ironically, that is exactly what happened, so everyone should be happy now.

BTW: I am disappointed that you of all people did not vote.

PS: The Official VeriCoin Forum for news and announcements is: http://vericoinforums.com

I am kind of familiar with logic from both mathematics and philosophy viewpoint, but I am not sure what you mean, could you explain please what part of logic related with the pure fact that a fucking 54 quantity from something (in this case percentage) is more than a fucking 46? :-))) In this context I am struggling to relate anything to this pair of numbers other than a simple arithmetical comparison: 54 > 46.

EDIT:
I mean, 54 isn't more than 46?

[NoFudOnlyFacts]

Sorry but the voting results where like this :

Keep btctalk 53.9%
Keep it as is   - 28 (44.4%)
Close it and start a new btctalk thread   - 6 (9.5%)

End btctalk 46%
End it with link to new forum   - 17 (27%)
Delete it and link to new forum   - 12 (19%)


SO why make a voting, if they have decieded to close it anyways.
The majority voted for having a btctalk thread and leave the old one open.

You cannnot count " Close it and start a new btctalk thread  " to "End btctalk" this is a contradiction.

So the majority voted to keep an unmoderated thread here in Bitcontalk and EffectsToCause interpreted this as the vote for closing it down forever. After all he is a scientists so he can twist the data to suit it for his own agenda.

The VRC team couldn't even manage to carry out with integrity a simple community voting ... that's great ... that's what VeriCoin became, a corrupted process.

I am glad I didn't even take part in their voting circus. I was sure it will be shamble even I couldn't imagine how a simple community voting can be corrupted, but never mind, EffectsToCause could manage that.

Sorry AltcoinUK, your logic is flawed. The majority voted to shut it down in some fashion.  Then, someone named Jon, decided "Close it and start a new btctalk thread" meant "Keep it", so he (see above) moved it to the "Keep" column.  Ironically, that is exactly what happened, so everyone should be happy now.

BTW: I am disappointed that you of all people did not vote.

PS: The Official VeriCoin Forum for news and announcements is: http://vericoinforums.com

I am kind of familiar with logic from both mathematics and philosophy viewpoint, but I am not sure what you mean, could you explain please what part of logic related with the pure fact that a fucking 54 quantity from something (in this case percentage) is more than a fucking 46? :-))) In this context I am struggling to relate anything to this pair of numbers other than a simple arithmetical comparison: 54 > 46.

EDIT:
I mean, 54 isn't more than 46?

are you stupid? the community voted, get over it! troll 

[altcoinUK]

And in the meantime the price is 5.9K.

[jd1959]

Love the new thread. I hate dictators

Jon 

[jd1959]

Hi NoFudOnlyFacts

Its clear that the MAJORITY voted to keep the thread open, even if it meant starting a new one. If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen

Jon   

[amesterdamer]

http://youtu.be/Yd0fBXwDBmo

[jd1959]

Hi guys if you've updated to new mandatory update 1.4.1.3, its got a bug official response on Veriforum is to shut it down and wait for new new release which will be released asap.

Jon 

[altcoinUK]

Hi guys if you've updated to new mandatory update 1.4.1.3, its got a bug official response on Veriforum is to shut it down and wait for new new release which will be released asap.

Jon  

Hi Jon

Thanks, the info about the bug is very much appreciated! It is very useful for many of us who don't accept censorship and prefer this Bitcointalk forum where all opinions are welcomed instead of the moderated new Vericoin cheerleader barbecue.

Lets keep the censorship away from VeriCoin! :-))

[barabbas]

UK, although it could easily be taken as a standard, reality is that many Vericoin supporters, although willfully blind to the reality of the project are quite far in their behavior from these two, pantsman and the unemployable seudo graphics pro from Portugal. It is not fair to put all of them in the same basket.

To accuse Nosker and Dave of censorship, on the other hand, is simply reflecting on one of the many "qualities" that adorn them both... which, by the way, are the cause of the eventual demise of Vericoin, of course.

[altcoinUK]

UK, although it could easily be taken as a standard, reality is that many Vericoin supporters, although willfully blind to the reality of the project are quite far in their behavior from these two, pantsman and the unemployable seudo graphics pro from Portugal. It is not fair to put all of them in the same basket.

To accuse Nosker and Dave of censorship, on the other hand, is simply reflecting on one of the many "qualities" that adorn them both... which, by the way, are the cause of the eventual demise of Vericoin, of course.

I have to agree with you that such generalization is completely unfair. I didn't mean that hard working ppl like Scott, Kevondo or Lootz or passive bag holders would be in the same basket where he is, I meant to say that he demonstrate the true nature of aggressive and hardcore cheerleaders like him and the jeans dealer. It think there are only a handful very loud cheerleaders like him ... majority of the community is normal and nice ppl who would never spam a thread.

I am very disappointed that EffectsToCause even started that voting and then interpreted the result as the community voted for close down the thread. I am not sure, was I after all correct when few weeks ago EffectsToCause was going to rip off in a 100 BTC deal someone with the German verileader and then I was questioning whether EffectsToCause has a corrupt side? It's confusing and I really don't want to accuse anyone with any wrongdoings, but it seems to me he acted corruptly in that deal and then it seems he handled the main BTC thread closing down process corruptly as well. I can't get my head around whether the VRC devs are honest young men who make many honest mistakes in a turbulent environment or they are just corrupted coin dealers. They seems are very nice guys, on the other hand their actions are really confusing (e.g. when Nosker moved 200k to the exchange).

[ereborltc]

WELCOME TO THE NEW VERICOIN TROLL THREAD! HOSTED BY ALTCOINUK AND THE ONE AND ONLY BARABBAS!!! ENJOY YOUR TROLL CAVE

[Isokoira]

@amesterdamer :-)) Please be civil and do not spam this thread. You are a prominent voice and contributor to the VeriCoin project, and therefore your uncivil spamming actions put a very negative light on VeriCoin. That's what VeriCoin became, to spam a thread where all opinions welcomed?

Why don't you contribute in a meaningful way to address the issues of empty promises, lack of progress and the operation that keeps VeriCoin in the league of another 500 meaningless and absolutely useless BTC/LTC clones?

Forget that, I say keep spamming this unofficial thread like you and Barabbas have done.  Let's see if we can beat the page count.  Keep em going.  Yeehaw..

I was sorta worried I wouldn't have my daily entertainment back.  Nice to see you guys again. 

[barabbas]

Oh boy, pant-man doing double-duty... triple duty soon? Like he is not transparent the moment he posts 5 words... WOW!

UK, there's no confusion: Acts speak much louder than any words. Besides, they have never denied that, if up to them, they would silence.... me, for instance. Or you (Nosker bumped you off IRC), so the proof is in the pudding, no confusions, no interpretations.

Now, that said and being absolutely provable truth, there's another influence now that cannot be underestimated: James (jl777) has always demanded, from the get go, total unanimity in support of VRC if he were to be involved. He is committed now and, quite frankly, left with no other option to have a "clean face" for his SuperNET, since there are not even one developer in crypto -that I know of- that is not either anonymous or tainted, if not both. These three are also, but, for now, in what James believes it is a manageable manner. He absolutely needs them to be his face and voice if SuperNET is to ever get anywhere remotely close to what he has envisioned (very arguable given the fact that it is losing interest quite fast by adding ridiculous "assets" such as Kevondo's radio and by the downward spiral in price), since otherwise he could not remain anonymous himself, something he's more than willing to pay high numbers to achieve. So this closing of the thread may very well be James' imposition.

In any event, I am beginning to agree with you in your statement that alts are doomed all, especially now that you have to go back to the basic ones of longer history to find a few that are not outright scams or, like in the case of Vericoin, led by the Stooges. Even Bitcoin itself may be in serious danger after the last drastic -and ongoing- drop in price.

I am convinced now, at the risk of being wrong, that VRC's "life" is going to be very, very short, SuperNET or no SuperNET. I also believe that SuperNET will go nowhere anymore, nor will any of the other James' endeavors, clever as they are, they have had their time and the only thing left if for him to cash out... which I envision happening very, very soon. The house of cards if quickly falling down and can't be stopped with copy/paste shit and corruption overall being prevalent, so it is, quite frankly, time to cut losses and run. If you really believe digital currency has a future (I know blockchain tech has, but not necessarily as support of digital currencies, exchanges at the consumer level or anything like that; as a matter of fact the boys are going to be dumped all over now that IBM is going to come in with a blockchain itself), then there's no better place than on BTC itself at current low -and going lower, seemingly-, prices. No other project, I don't care which, can offer even remotely the level of both safety and potential profitability that BTC can.

Most certainly, neither VRC nor SuperNET -or any other alt, for that matter-.

[Troll-A-Troll]

altcoinUK your the most pathetic of all the TROLLS! LOL seriously by far the most pathetic...do you cry yourself to sleep ever night lololol If you would of bought at 4900 you would of been up 20% right now... could of made that russian groups money back...smh LULZ so pathetic ...

[barabbas]

Yep, triple duty. Go pant-man, go...