GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[crazyivan]

Paycoin s really got a devoted community, they simply do not give up. I guess they might pump up the price back up again.

[vObh0n]6W]

Okay... so, garza was getting a $300k+/yr salary that was around $13k/2weeks + he got $333,333.33 of his loan to GAW Miners paid back THIS YEAR + he got $20k from somewhere else (the foundation?) paid back THIS YEAR...

So, to date THIS YEAR, he's taken approx $457k+ out of those dweebs

And, they're over there saying how their kid's education funds are flattened and they can't pay their mortgage when he's really darn close to half a million dollars and it's not even the end of April...

There is alot of shit that doesn't make sense, especially considering the 200k paycoin that was apparently sold for cash to pay back a loan he made to him fucking self was valued at over $400k at the time he most likely sold those coins. but yet only a 3rd of his loan to himself has been paid back?

He is also suggesting that he has bought 10 times more than the 350k  he dumped, so say 3.5million , other people have quoted a price of 10 dollars per coin, but even at 2 dollars per coin , which is far more realistic of a price to quote overall average, that is 7 million dollars he apparently bought up(he hasnt bought any for weeks he stated so didnt buy any super low priced)

7 million dollars worth of trade volume is well over 70 days at $100,000 a day , which for the last few weeks they have rarely topped half of that .

there hasn't been enough volume for the amount he claims to have bought, it is almost impossible, unless he is the sole person creating volume and keeping the whole market up with his "buying back"

Or it's an outright lie.

OTOH, do your volume numbers include paybase?

if paybase numbers were included in coinmarketcap previously then yes

I don't think they were, but I also don't think there was enough over there to cover "10 times as much as was sold".

[Paul Revere]

Uhhh, no. Sorry pal, you have been royally Paycoined. That train ran right over you and your investment. The term "Paycoined" however,will likely be used, at least within the Cyrpto world, for a long time, if not forever. If nothing else, this whole saga has been a crash course in Crytpo, and allowed me to have the honor of introducing a new word into the lexicon. Hell, it is already actually being printed on T-shirts and hats. You just don't get the chance to coin a new word everyday. I meant to update that meme, after all, I did make it up quickly after a few cold frosties one night.

[jibble]

Okay... so, garza was getting a $300k+/yr salary that was around $13k/2weeks + he got $333,333.33 of his loan to GAW Miners paid back THIS YEAR + he got $20k from somewhere else (the foundation?) paid back THIS YEAR...

So, to date THIS YEAR, he's taken approx $457k+ out of those dweebs

And, they're over there saying how their kid's education funds are flattened and they can't pay their mortgage when he's really darn close to half a million dollars and it's not even the end of April...

There is alot of shit that doesn't make sense, especially considering the 200k paycoin that was apparently sold for cash to pay back a loan he made to him fucking self was valued at over $400k at the time he most likely sold those coins. but yet only a 3rd of his loan to himself has been paid back?

He is also suggesting that he has bought 10 times more than the 350k  he dumped, so say 3.5million , other people have quoted a price of 10 dollars per coin, but even at 2 dollars per coin , which is far more realistic of a price to quote overall average, that is 7 million dollars he apparently bought up(he hasnt bought any for weeks he stated so didnt buy any super low priced)

7 million dollars worth of trade volume is well over 70 days at $100,000 a day , which for the last few weeks they have rarely topped half of that .

there hasn't been enough volume for the amount he claims to have bought, it is almost impossible, unless he is the sole person creating volume and keeping the whole market up with his "buying back"

Or it's an outright lie.

OTOH, do your volume numbers include paybase?

if paybase numbers were included in coinmarketcap previously then yes

I don't think they were, but I also don't think there was enough over there to cover "10 times as much as was sold".

Yeah i have been looking on the way back machine

https://web.archive.org/web/20150213030850/http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paycoin2/#markets

looks as thou paybase wasn't included, it would be possible to check daily volumes with an average per coin cost each day for the last 90 days and find out an accurate average of cost of coin with daily volume amount over those days for an average per day, but even with a rough estimate its clear the numbers he is claiming are very far from the truth and most likely lies

edit . which is not exactly anything new......dunno why people thought a habitual liar would suddenly tell the truth all of a sudden , he will only tell the truth when it puts him in a positive light, just no truth puts him in a positive light at the moment unless told subjectively.

[Fargo]

So josh deleted the thread and posted on saying "positive stuff only". Nothing fishy being censored here.

[bumpershot]

So josh deleted the thread and posted on saying "positive stuff only". Nothing fishy being censored here.

lol, dumbass. As if the whole thing hasn't already been screenshotted and archived.

[vObh0n]6W]

So josh deleted the thread and posted on saying "positive stuff only". Nothing fishy being censored here.

I think it was the haxxers.

/s

[subseaguru]

so who thinks Mr. Garbazzo has paid his taxes properly? 
no wonder IRS is interested in him

you can get a piece of the action too!!!
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Whistleblower-Informant-Award

[vObh0n]6W]

So... looking at the coincap.com site... XPY has a 15.5 million avail coins, but I'm using 15 million since there hasn't always been 15.5 million... if you use that....

Then of the 125 active days since the coin's start...
-- 90 days have had total blocks that transferred out a total of 15 million coins or more...
-- Nearly 50 days have blocks for the day totally 30k transferred out or more...
-- On the first day when there was only a total of 13 million coins minted, the blockchain reports blocks transferring out a total of 82 million coins... that's enough to have transferred every coin six times each.


I'm sorry, but this is just for very small numbers AND with... what?.... nearly 8 million coins held hostage so not moving anywhere at all... this has to be the least efficient coin on earth... could you imagine the number of coins that would be flying around if this actually had anyone really using it?

Number of coins moved is a bad metric to use. If I have an output with 10 million coins, and send you 1 coin, that shows up as 10 million coins moved. If I send 10 people 1 coin, reusing the same output, it will show at just under 100 million coins moved.

It's also easily manipulated for cheap.

Number of coindays spent would be a slightly better metric.

[NuShrike]

So josh deleted the thread and posted on saying "positive stuff only". Nothing fishy being censored here.

He's sooo ADHD in a negative way.

[Paul Revere]

So josh deleted the thread and posted on saying "positive stuff only". Nothing fishy being censored here.

He's sooo ADHD in a negative way.

It's back. Probably changed the thread title. Not sure if things have been removed or not.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/36479/positive-paycoin-thread/151
Archive: https://archive.today/XpEr1

[suchmoon]

Guys and gals, don't waste your time doing math on what MrCEO is saying. He's making that shit up, then realizes that he got tangled in his lies and deletes the thread... that should give you an idea what you're dealing with. Until proven otherwise (with signed addresses, TXIDs, copies of documents, etc) it's safe to assume that there was no loan, no 10x buying, no extortion, etc. There was clearly some massive dumping already proven in two different ways - via Paul's research and via xmk3's e-mails.

BTW MrCEO, if you need to double check your new lies with the old ones, use this:

https://archive.today/https://hashtalk.org/topic/36469*

You're welcome.

[vObh0n]6W]

So josh deleted the thread and posted on saying "positive stuff only". Nothing fishy being censored here.

He's sooo ADHD in a negative way.

It's back. Probably changed the thread title. Not sure if things have been removed or not.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/36479/positive-paycoin-thread/151
Archive: https://archive.today/XpEr1

The thread that was deleted https://hashtalk.org/topic/36469/can-we-get-someone-in-here-to-see-this is not back. (You can see some archives here https://archive.today/https://hashtalk.org/topic/36469*

The positive thread was always there.

[volder]

XMK3:

Speaking of that.. I went ahead and zipped up the DKIM signed versions of the messages posted earlier.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4vYsQzSUlDPMi1XUWFCa253bkhvNnBLUVdWNjFta0lBelJV/view?usp=sharing

Mirror: https://mega.co.nz/#!tYwzXLiQ!hLvu3WJQ6pAkvrxrSuoS8w3-VQn_PojnAVG49ghg-Tg

[adipurnama]

idiots are arguing
whereas from the beginning of a big mouth josh who had been wrong
he made a lot of promises that he can not keep it just
josh bastard people who should be responsible
with coin SCAME poocoin

[kken01]

xmk3 packed them neatly in to this zip
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4vYsQzSUlDPMi1XUWFCa253bkhvNnBLUVdWNjFta0lBelJV/view?usp=sharing

[kken01]

theres some interesting btc addresses in the email   meh gotta check if its the same one someone was guessing here 500 pages ago


edit: well cmilian owns a money printer (PC) and pays out to people who are invested on it. they need chumps to buy the xpy that they want to flood to the market. of course everything is rosy in that world
peoples coin pyramid coin when people are getting paid weird staking rates

[magaman]

Can someone do like a recap every 10 pages, I don't check in over the weekend and I have 100 pages to catch up on.

[paulh691]

I was thinking it would be possible to combine paycoin (or bitcoin nodes) with mailservers so that Paycoin could become a postage stamp system for the delivery of email.  with charges going to mailservers and recipients.  XPY seems ideal for micropayments  

[Xian01]

XPY seems ideal for micropayments  

XPY is a mess and should probably go the way of the dodo.

It's irredeemable, and GAW/Josh Garza need to be held to account.