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jimmothy
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April 28, 2015, 08:59:06 AM |
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So if I'm understanding this correct, they didn't transfer a Prime controller + it's coins, they just pulled 125k xpy out of some secret stash and gave it to Cryptsy with a new PC address? |
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cryptodevil
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April 28, 2015, 09:10:47 AM |
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Garza learned a new word: crowd fund. a brand new way to scam FIAT. why do your agencies not stop this guy immediately?
I don't think the alphabet agencies are that worried about Garza doing much of anything these days, did you not see what kind of 'business' ideas he's been approving for the launch of his crowdfunding scamsite?   |
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April 28, 2015, 09:12:34 AM |
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Garza learned a new word: crowd fund. a brand new way to scam FIAT. why do your agencies not stop this guy immediately?
I don't think the alphabet agencies are that worried about Garza doing much of anything these days, did you not see what kind of 'business' ideas he's been approving for the launch of his crowdfunding scamsite? comedy platinum right there.  |
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rawbot
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April 28, 2015, 10:31:35 AM |
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Cant answer vague..... If you have something to say spit it out. Who is this top level employee and what did they say? I have already told you we are all entitled to an opinion on the topic. I am speaking only to the business aspect of it since concerns were addressed.
Don't worry you scamming asswipe, we will get all the information we will ever need sooner or later when one of your staff with half a conscience send us one of your email dumps. |
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rawbot
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April 28, 2015, 10:42:29 AM |
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Hey now, I live in Baltimore! And yes very close to the riots........
That looks nasty on TV, it's probably worse IRL. Stay safe. This is what happens when you have a nationwide police force who murder unarmed black people and get away with it. There may have been one murder charge recently (which he will probably be acquitted of) but what about the unarmed black guy Eric Garner murdered on a New York sidewalk while selling cigarettes live on camera? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/dec/04/i-cant-breathe-eric-garner-chokehold-death-videoThanks to social media and mobile cameras black people know now more clearly than ever that they are little more than target practice for the police. If I was black in the USA right now I would want to go to war with the cops and that is exactly what we are seeing. The police brought this upon themselves. They are reaping what they have sown with interest. |
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April 28, 2015, 10:45:40 AM |
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Hey now, I live in Baltimore! And yes very close to the riots........
That looks nasty on TV, it's probably worse IRL. Stay safe. This is what happens when you have a nationwide police force who murder unarmed black people and get away with it. There may have been one murder charge recently (which he will probably be acquitted of) but what about the unarmed black guy Eric Garner murdered on a New York sidewalk while selling cigarettes live on camera? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/dec/04/i-cant-breathe-eric-garner-chokehold-death-videoThanks to social media and mobile cameras black people know now more clearly than ever that they are little more than target practice for the police. If I was black in the USA right now I would want to go to war with the cops and that is exactly what we are seeing. The police brought this upon themselves. They are reaping what they have sown with interest. You should probably stay in whatever Euro utopia you live in then. |
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BitJohn
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April 28, 2015, 10:47:12 AM |
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Cant answer vague..... If you have something to say spit it out. Who is this top level employee and what did they say? I have already told you we are all entitled to an opinion on the topic. I am speaking only to the business aspect of it since concerns were addressed.
Don't worry you scamming asswipe, we will get all the information we will ever need sooner or later when one of your staff with half a conscience send us one of your email dumps. Inciteful thanks for the input. Not really concerned; again I believe we have answered the communities questions in regards to the prime controller acquisition. If you have more questions it would be helpful if you actually asked another question. As at this point I think this thread is more comedic than productive which definitely has me glued though i doubt were gaining anything from it. Some folks I think were looking for real answers. I don't mind feeding the trolls however they get hungry too. |
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April 28, 2015, 10:50:33 AM |
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I sarcastically said to someone yesterday, "Sorry I didn't cup your balls, bro." This thread has now influenced my daily speech.
Note, however, that I did not say that in a professional context to a business associate. That would get me fired.
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April 28, 2015, 10:51:06 AM
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You also initially and possibly still do not know from whom cryptsy acquired the controller? Someone stated the name a few post back it was the Paycoin Core Development team which to my understanding rested control from Garza. Correct me if I am wrong in this. This speaks volumes about the sham nature of decentralization of paycoin. Nobody can know who it really was who donated it to you because there really is no real material difference between Core development team or team XPY or whatever the names of the sham "nonprofits" are. Garza gifted a bunch primes to one nonprofit which then gifted a portion of them to another nonprofit and they hold together handout meetings to decide what to do and how the primes should be further distributed. That is no decentralization. Decentralization means truly independent minded parties not who are colluding together. If there is collusion it is no decentralization. In the hangout meeting it was Matlack who seemed to know most about the gifting the prime to cryptsy and it was Matlack who talked about PARTNERSHIP as a justification from their side why it was done. Matlack is not part of the core development team. Matlack represents the other nonprofit who did NOT gift the prime. How is that possible? If it really was core development team who gifted the prime it should have been somebody from that team who told about the gifting to a very surprised Matlack and not the other way around. It very much sounds like Matlack is the one pulling all the strings behind the curtains also what the other nonprofit should be doing to benefit them both and now cryptcy is a third wheel in here tied with PARTNERSHIP to the other two and especially Matlack. This is no decentralization. This is a sham shack built just in paper to hide the true nature of what is really going on whatever it is. I have no illusions that cryptsy would really give up the prime. They are tied in a PARTNERSHIP forged back in october. A sham vote between "Should we do the right thing or should we continue scamming?" deserves an "Ostrich Penis" as the only result that makes any sense. |
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April 28, 2015, 10:53:01 AM |
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As at this point I think this thread is more comedic than productive which definitely has me glued though i doubt were gaining anything from it.
Some folks I think were looking for real answers.
I don't mind feeding the trolls however they get hungry too.
This thread has been comedy gold for quite a while in the same manner that Comedy Central shows The Daily Show and The Colbert Report display. They make you laugh your ass off while giving you news about a topic. This topic is everything Homero and has been providing laughs since November 14, 2014. You can think that this is just "trolling" but we don't give a shit. We're proud to be called trolls. |
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BitJohn
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April 28, 2015, 10:54:04 AM |
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As at this point I think this thread is more comedic than productive which definitely has me glued though i doubt were gaining anything from it.
Some folks I think were looking for real answers.
I don't mind feeding the trolls however they get hungry too.
This thread has been comedy gold for quite a while in the same manner that Comedy Central shows The Daily Show and The Colbert Report display. They make you laugh your ass off while giving you news about a topic. This topic is everything Homero and has been providing laughs since November 14, 2014. You can think that this is just "trolling" but we don't give a shit. We're proud to be called trolls. Who said I don't like trolls? They are people too....er, or trolls too... |
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April 28, 2015, 10:54:47 AM |
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Cant answer vague..... If you have something to say spit it out. Who is this top level employee and what did they say? I have already told you we are all entitled to an opinion on the topic. I am speaking only to the business aspect of it since concerns were addressed.
Don't worry you scamming asswipe, we will get all the information we will ever need sooner or later when one of your staff with half a conscience send us one of your email dumps. Inciteful thanks for the input. Not really concerned; again I believe we have answered the communities questions in regards to the prime controller acquisition. If you have more questions it would be helpful if you actually asked another question. As at this point I think this thread is more comedic than productive which definitely has me glued though i doubt were gaining anything from it. Some folks I think were looking for real answers. I don't mind feeding the trolls however they get hungry too. Why don't we just be straight. You are here for little more than a public relations exercise on behalf of a company which has been discovered to be complicit in homero garzas fraud. You are doing your level best, by being as reasonable as you can in the face of the inevitable abuse, to mitigate the damage done to the reputation of Cryptsy. It must have stung the exchange because otherwise you wouldn't even be bothering to do this. How much has it stung? I wonder how many people in the wider crypto space have seen what you are involved in and have withdrawn their funds too.... Let's face it, there's no version of these events where you lot come out looking good, is there. There's nothing you can do that changes the fact your CTO was directly involved in garzas lying schemes. There's nothing that will change the fact that you've (as a company) chosen to help perpetuate this sad state of affairs. Christ, even you lot can't explain the legitimate reasoning behind there being a handful of hyper inflationary wallets doled out to a mere handful of select individuals, yet you chose to hold one because it gives you what, one vote in 50 towards what direction the idiots that hold them chose to take? So that one load of hyper inflated coins don't hammer the market? It all sounds like utter bollocks from where I'm sitting. |
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April 28, 2015, 10:57:04 AM |
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As at this point I think this thread is more comedic than productive which definitely has me glued though i doubt were gaining anything from it.
Some folks I think were looking for real answers.
I don't mind feeding the trolls however they get hungry too.
This thread has been comedy gold for quite a while in the same manner that Comedy Central shows The Daily Show and The Colbert Report display. They make you laugh your ass off while giving you news about a topic. This topic is everything Homero and has been providing laughs since November 14, 2014. You can think that this is just "trolling" but we don't give a shit. We're proud to be called trolls. Who said I don't like trolls? They are people too....er, or trolls too... John, we know that you were sent here by your boss to find out how outraged people really are about cryptsy dealing with the conman Josh Garza, and to appease us with nice words and a fake poll. It won't work. Cryptsy is collaborating with a criminal and can not be trusted anymore. Delist XPY. |
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April 28, 2015, 11:03:33 AM |
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Why don't we just be straight. You are here for little more than a public relations exercise on behalf of a company which has been discovered to be complicit in homero garzas fraud. You are doing your level best, by being as reasonable as you can in the face of the inevitable abuse, to mitigate the damage done to the reputation of Cryptsy. True I am managing the thread from a public relations aspect. It must have stung the exchange because otherwise you wouldn't even be bothering to do this. Im not new to this forum or community so I'm really always here. Yes we don't like it when people make accusations, or at least when we feel they are not provided the facts. How much has it stung? I wonder how many people in the wider crypto space have seen what you are involved in and have withdrawn their funds too.... Volume was up about 10% yesterday.... Let's face it, there's no version of these events where you lot come out looking good, is there. There's nothing you can do that changes the fact your CTO was directly involved in garzas lying schemes. There's nothing that will change the fact that you've (as a company) chosen to help perpetuate this sad state of affairs. Many folks at some level in the crypto space have done business with him. Most would say they would not have if they had a DeLorean and had a stretch of rode they could hit 88mph at. Christ, even you lot can't explain the legitimate reasoning behind there being a handful of hyper inflationary wallets doled out to a mere handful of select individuals, yet you chose to hold one because it gives you what, one vote in 50 towards what direction the idiots that hold them chose to take? So that one load of hyper inflated coins don't hammer the market? No clue why they made crazy hyper wallets. I have seen sillier ideas in other coins. If we control the majority stake we keep the network secure which is why we felt it best for our customers. It all sounds like utter bollocks from where I'm sitting. We are all entitled to our opinion though I think you asked pretty valid questions. Which I enjoy answering. |
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April 28, 2015, 11:10:40 AM |
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As at this point I think this thread is more comedic than productive which definitely has me glued though i doubt were gaining anything from it.
You said it ! Your poll was pretty comedic and productive, huh ? I liked that Navy Seals copypasta towards the end there. I am glued to this thread, watching as Cryptsy continues to defend its position, and crashes and burns in the public eye due to it's own tone-deafness and greed. But I'm sure it'll all be worth it for you, and your XPY holdings will be worth the stated $20 floor any day now... |
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BitJohn
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April 28, 2015, 11:11:55 AM |
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John, we know that you were sent here by your boss to find out how outraged people really are about cryptsy dealing with the conman Josh Garza, and to appease us with nice words and a fake poll. There is no formal relations with Garza in regards to XPY, or any of those shenanigans. There was contact at inside BTC and talks about mining deals taht never came to fruition as we made observations that he may not have been totally upfront in them. It won't work. Answering peoples questions honestly generally appeases anyone who genuinely wanted to be informed so probably will. Cryptsy is collaborating with a criminal and can not be trusted anymore. No they are not like I have stated previously what we could do in this matter we have done as far as the legal side of it. Delist XPY. Both of the top alt coin exchanges carry the coin. It is unlikely we will delist it as we don't delist any coins that function for the most part. The free market will more than likely decide that fate. |
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BitJohn
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April 28, 2015, 11:15:10 AM |
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You said it ! Your poll was pretty comedic and productive, huh ? Were you not amused? I tried to choose a third party approach to give folks a say apparently the vote was Ostrich members. I liked that Navy Seals copypasta towards the end there. I am glued to this thread, watching as Cryptsy continues to defend its position, and crashes and burns in the public eye due to it's own tone-deafness and greed. I think our position is solid if anything its driving traffic. But I'm sure it'll all be worth it for you, and your XPY holdings will be worth the stated $20 floor any day now... I own mostly Bitcoin but hey that is me. I have never traded, or owned XPY. |
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April 28, 2015, 11:15:47 AM |
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Why don't we just be straight. You are here for little more than a public relations exercise on behalf of a company which has been discovered to be complicit in homero garzas fraud. You are doing your level best, by being as reasonable as you can in the face of the inevitable abuse, to mitigate the damage done to the reputation of Cryptsy. True I am managing the thread from a public relations aspect. Not going especially well, is it :-) It must have stung the exchange because otherwise you wouldn't even be bothering to do this. Im not new to this forum or community so I'm really always here. Yes we don't like it when people make accusations, or at least when we feel they are not provided the facts. Doesn't really address what I said, but fair enough. How much has it stung? I wonder how many people in the wider crypto space have seen what you are involved in and have withdrawn their funds too.... Volume was up about 10% yesterday.... You know what they say about statistics. Is that the volume of trades as people cash out their alts and pull their BTC? Were there more withdrawals than normal? Let's face it, there's no version of these events where you lot come out looking good, is there. There's nothing you can do that changes the fact your CTO was directly involved in garzas lying schemes. There's nothing that will change the fact that you've (as a company) chosen to help perpetuate this sad state of affairs. Many folks at some level in the crypto space have done business with him. Most would say they would not have if they had a DeLorean and had a stretch of rode they could hit 88mph at. No doubt there are plenty of customers who would love the chance to go back and not make the same mistake. There's probably more than one business person who wishes for the same thing. yet Cryptsy are climbing deeper in to the snake pit? Very odd, don't you think, when everyone else, anyone with half a brain cell spare, is running in the opposite direction. Christ, even you lot can't explain the legitimate reasoning behind there being a handful of hyper inflationary wallets doled out to a mere handful of select individuals, yet you chose to hold one because it gives you what, one vote in 50 towards what direction the idiots that hold them chose to take? So that one load of hyper inflated coins don't hammer the market? No clue why they made crazy hyper wallets. I have seen sillier ideas in other coins. If we control the majority stake we keep the network secure which is why we felt it best for our customers. I'll help you: Unmitigated greed and the belief (foolish) that everyone involved in crypto is as thick as two short planks. I don't understand what you're on about controlling the majority stake though. You don't, do you? You have one of the hyper inflation wallets, which is equal to 2% of the voting power, isn't it? Not sure how you can claim keeping that hyper inflation wallet helps you secure the network? Unless you didn't actually type that with a straight face and were smirking as you wrote it? It all sounds like utter bollocks from where I'm sitting. We are all entitled to our opinion though I think you asked pretty valid questions. Which I enjoy answering. We are indeed, and I'll express it again, in case anyone missed it the last time: It all sounds like utter total bollocks to me. |
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