GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Paul Revere]

Exactly.  And i don't work on pay coin, i did a one off job for TeamXPY.

Well good for you. Tell us, did the money you were paid that was conned from from the unwary, old men, little boys, and retards spend ok?

teamxpy != gaw

Prove it. I personally do not believe the fancy story that the team of crooks handpicked by Homero that were involved in the Paycoin scam from day 1 are not still doing his bidding.

[miaviator]

Exactly.  And i don't work on pay coin, i did a one off job for TeamXPY.

Well good for you. Tell us, did the money you were paid that was conned from from the unwary, old men, little boys, and retards spend ok?

teamxpy != gaw

Prove it. I personally do not believe the fancy story that the team of crooks handpicked by Homero are not still doing his bidding.

There is no way to prove it.  Paul Revere hasn't answered what would constitute proof.

[miaviator]

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@volder WTF was this for?

[Paul Revere]

Exactly.  And i don't work on pay coin, i did a one off job for TeamXPY.

Well good for you. Tell us, did the money you were paid that was conned from from the unwary, old men, little boys, and retards spend ok?

teamxpy != gaw

Prove it. I personally do not believe the fancy story that the team of crooks handpicked by Homero are not still doing his bidding.

There is no way to prove it.  Paul Revere hasn't answered what would constitute proof.

And no attempts at any sort of proof have even been attempted. Why in the world would I believe a known liar that his hand picked team of crooks is not still working for him? There is every reason to lie, and Homero is a liar. You are not making sense here.

P.S: Please feel free to amaze us all with even a single tangible shred of evidence that Team XPY and or any of the other gangs of crooks are not still working for Homero.

[miaviator]

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[Paul Revere]

PCGnQCTE721XoEPMsu46pP1vv5vu5m4nL5

OK, what is this 10,000 XPY about?

[TheMage]

Exactly.  And i don't work on pay coin, i did a one off job for TeamXPY.

Well good for you. Tell us, did the money you were paid that was conned from from the unwary, old men, little boys, and retards spend ok?

teamxpy != gaw

Prove it. I personally do not believe the fancy story that the team of crooks handpicked by Homero are not still doing his bidding.

There is no way to prove it.  Paul Revere hasn't answered what would constitute proof.

And no attempts at any sort of proof have even been attempted. Why in the world would I believe a known liar that his hand picked team of crooks is not still working for him? There is every reason to lie, and Homero is a liar. You are not making sense here.

P.S: Please feel free to amaze us all with even a single tangible shred of evidence that Team XPY and or any of the other gangs of crooks are not still working for Homero.

Just to play devils advocate here Paul, I dont think this can really be proven. Sadly this is a situation where you need to take everyone's word at face value. The only thing I can suggest is actions speak louder than words and evaluate people based on their actions.

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[miaviator]

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OK, what is this 10,000 XPY about?

Where does it go?  It looks like a JG address.

[Paul Revere]

Exactly.  And i don't work on pay coin, i did a one off job for TeamXPY.

Well good for you. Tell us, did the money you were paid that was conned from from the unwary, old men, little boys, and retards spend ok?

teamxpy != gaw

Prove it. I personally do not believe the fancy story that the team of crooks handpicked by Homero are not still doing his bidding.

There is no way to prove it.  Paul Revere hasn't answered what would constitute proof.

And no attempts at any sort of proof have even been attempted. Why in the world would I believe a known liar that his hand picked team of crooks is not still working for him? There is every reason to lie, and Homero is a liar. You are not making sense here.

P.S: Please feel free to amaze us all with even a single tangible shred of evidence that Team XPY and or any of the other gangs of crooks are not still working for Homero.

Just to play devils advocate here Paul, I dont think this can really be proven. Sadly this is a situation where you need to take everyone's word at face value. The only thing I can suggest is actions speak louder than words and evaluate people based on their actions.

I agree. And the actions I see being taken by the various groups (one of which- Team XPY - was openly created to distance Paycoin from Josh/GAW) are exactly what someone would do if they were trying to distance a scam from themselves and attach it to other parties. There is no proof at all that Homero is not still in charge of or largely profiting from the whole scam, and there is every reason for him to make people think he isn't. Why would you believe the word of a known and habitual liar who has every reason to decieve you? Illogical, to say the least.

[Paul Revere]

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OK, what is this 10,000 XPY about?

Where does it go?  It looks like a JG address.

OK. And? There is no shortage of large amounts of XPY that Homero has sent to various addresses. Is there something specific here I am supposed to be noticing?

[WaffleMaster]

Scamstarter is up https://www.cryptochange.org

Only credit cards accepted btw "crypto"

The fastest growing kickstarter in the world!

Jessica has a project up from Atlanta Georgia

What? Still down for me...perhaps it's growing too fast 

[bitpop]

Scamstarter is up https://www.cryptochange.org

Only credit cards accepted btw "crypto"

The fastest growing kickstarter in the world!

Jessica has a project up from Atlanta Georgia

What? Still down for me...perhaps it's growing too fast 

Over 100,000,000 users registered today!

[Paul Revere]

Still waiting. Was that address supposed to be proof that the crooks handpicked by Homero Garza to distance Paycoin from him and were intimately involved in the Paycoin scam from the beginning are no longer under his control? I do not see it. What I do see is someone asking me to believe the word of a known habitual liar. I don't believe anything. I went through this same plea for belief when confronting the Hard Atheists in this forum who like to pretend that they are somehow intellectually superior because they believe there is no God, as opposed to those that believe there is or might be, or even know there is a God. Fuck belief. Know what you know. Nothing else matters. Those that say otherwise are fucking fools or someone trying to play you for one.

[miaviator]

Still waiting. Was that address supposed to be proof that the crooks handpicked by Homero Garza to distance Paycoin from him and were intimately involved in the Paycoin scam from the beginning are no longer under his control? I do not see it. What I do see is someone asking me to believe the word of a known habitual liar. I don't believe anything. I went through this same plea for belief when confronting the Hard Atheists in this forum who like to pretend that they are somehow intellectually superior because they believe there is no God, as opposed to those that believe there is or might be a God. Fuck belief. Know what you know. Nothing else matters. Those that say otherwise are fucking fools.

I was just looking through screenshots and found some addresses.   Completely unrelated to the rest of the conversation.

[Paul Revere]

Still waiting. Was that address supposed to be proof that the crooks handpicked by Homero Garza to distance Paycoin from him and were intimately involved in the Paycoin scam from the beginning are no longer under his control? I do not see it. What I do see is someone asking me to believe the word of a known habitual liar. I don't believe anything. I went through this same plea for belief when confronting the Hard Atheists in this forum who like to pretend that they are somehow intellectually superior because they believe there is no God, as opposed to those that believe there is or might be a God. Fuck belief. Know what you know. Nothing else matters. Those that say otherwise are fucking fools.

I was just looking through screenshots and found some addresses.   Completely unrelated to the rest of the conversation.

OK, thank you for that. You keep going on about me not believing that Josh Garza is no longer in control of or not largely still profiting from Paycoin, saying that there is no amount of proof that will satisfy me. Please enlighten me, and all of us here, as to what YOU think is proof of this. I personally can honestly say that I have not seen ANY proof of this at all. None. All we have is the word of Josh Garza and the handpicked team of crooks who are supposedly now his enemy. If there is even one shred of actual proof that you know of, then please share it with us all.

[suchmoon]

I agree. And the actions I see being taken by the various groups (one of which- Team XPY - was openly created to distance Paycoin from Josh/GAW) are exactly what someone would do if they were trying to distance a scam from themselves and attach it to other parties. There is no proof at all that Homero is not still in charge of or largely profiting from the whole scam, and there is every reason for him to make people think he isn't. Why would you believe the word of a known and habitual liar who has every reason to decieve you? Illogical, to say the least.

What he's saying "officially" is of course utter BS, but you can see some real butthurt in the way he's behaving. Posting about hacks, deleting posts, threatening with legal action, etc. Of course you could say this is all part of some kind of a convoluted plan, but he's not that sophisticated, is he? You read his e-mails, he couldn't plan his way out of a wet paper bag. That's not to say that the Team XPY guys are any better or worse, but I think it's fair to evaluate their stuff on its own merit.

Which isn't much by the way, I mean the only thing that sort of worked was the paycoin.com wallet and it's closing down. What else have they actually done?

[Paul Revere]

I agree. And the actions I see being taken by the various groups (one of which- Team XPY - was openly created to distance Paycoin from Josh/GAW) are exactly what someone would do if they were trying to distance a scam from themselves and attach it to other parties. There is no proof at all that Homero is not still in charge of or largely profiting from the whole scam, and there is every reason for him to make people think he isn't. Why would you believe the word of a known and habitual liar who has every reason to decieve you? Illogical, to say the least.

What he's saying "officially" is of course utter BS, but you can see some real butthurt in the way he's behaving. Posting about hacks, deleting posts, threatening with legal action, etc. Of course you could say this is all part of some kind of a convoluted plan, but he's not that sophisticated, is he? You read his e-mails, he couldn't plan his way out of a wet paper bag. That's not to say that the Team XPY guys are any better or worse, but I think it's fair to evaluate their stuff on its own merit.

Which isn't much by the way, I mean the only thing that sort of worked was the paycoin.com wallet and it's closing down. What else have they actually done?

One thing Josh has proven himself to be is a slippery liar. If you think that means you should start believing him I think that perhaps you have stared into the abyss too long.

[miaviator]

Still waiting. Was that address supposed to be proof that the crooks handpicked by Homero Garza to distance Paycoin from him and were intimately involved in the Paycoin scam from the beginning are no longer under his control? I do not see it. What I do see is someone asking me to believe the word of a known habitual liar. I don't believe anything. I went through this same plea for belief when confronting the Hard Atheists in this forum who like to pretend that they are somehow intellectually superior because they believe there is no God, as opposed to those that believe there is or might be a God. Fuck belief. Know what you know. Nothing else matters. Those that say otherwise are fucking fools.

I was just looking through screenshots and found some addresses.   Completely unrelated to the rest of the conversation.

OK, thank you for that. You keep going on about me not believing that Josh Garza is no longer in control of or not largely still profiting from Paycoin, saying that there is no amount of proof that will satisfy me. Please enlighten me, and all of us here, as to what YOU think is proof of this. I personally can honestly say that I have not seen ANY proof of this at all. None. All we have is the word of Josh Garza and the handpicked team of crooks who are supposedly now his enemy. If there is even one shred of actual proof that you know of, then please share it with us all.

You are welcome,

Proof that a sociopath/psychopath is lying is generally hard to come by.  Many people have the internal press releases, the hashtalk posts, the leaked private chats and emails posted here as well other communications which as you have pointed out could all have been orchestrated by Ganza.  I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you as I cannot provide proof in either direction.

My questions and statements, aside from me being a troll, are just pointing out that I don't believe proof exists in either direction though if you had a burden of proof to achieve perhaps it could be worked towards?

[Paul Revere]

Still waiting. Was that address supposed to be proof that the crooks handpicked by Homero Garza to distance Paycoin from him and were intimately involved in the Paycoin scam from the beginning are no longer under his control? I do not see it. What I do see is someone asking me to believe the word of a known habitual liar. I don't believe anything. I went through this same plea for belief when confronting the Hard Atheists in this forum who like to pretend that they are somehow intellectually superior because they believe there is no God, as opposed to those that believe there is or might be a God. Fuck belief. Know what you know. Nothing else matters. Those that say otherwise are fucking fools.

I was just looking through screenshots and found some addresses.   Completely unrelated to the rest of the conversation.

OK, thank you for that. You keep going on about me not believing that Josh Garza is no longer in control of or not largely still profiting from Paycoin, saying that there is no amount of proof that will satisfy me. Please enlighten me, and all of us here, as to what YOU think is proof of this. I personally can honestly say that I have not seen ANY proof of this at all. None. All we have is the word of Josh Garza and the handpicked team of crooks who are supposedly now his enemy. If there is even one shred of actual proof that you know of, then please share it with us all.

You are welcome,

Proof that a sociopath/psychopath is lying is generally hard to come by.  Many people have the internal press releases, the hashtalk posts, the leaked private chats and emails posted here as well other communications which as you have pointed out could all have been orchestrated by Ganza.  I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you as I cannot provide proof in either direction.

My questions and statements, aside from me being a troll, are just pointing out that I don't believe proof exists in either direction though if you had a burden of proof to achieve perhaps it could be worked towards?

Yet you want to work towards this "burden of proof" by starting from the point of acceptance of that which is coming straight from a known pathological liar who has every reason to deceive me. I say work towards a burden of proof starting from the point of NOT accepting that which is coming from a pathological liar who has every reason to deceive me. You are saying I should accept probable lies at face value and work backwards to prove that they are not, and I say FUCK believing lies at all. These are complete and total opposite viewpoints. Yours being completely illogical and open to corruption, and the other totally logical and non corruptible. Why exactly is it that you want me to believe Homero Garza?