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April 14, 2015, 12:46:59 AM |
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The problem is not only his. I am also unable to connect to the site (unable to connect the whole day today)
Its a bit weird, some people able to open but some others unable to open SD. Just tried to open it again an still work with chrome, but it shows "website is offline" with firefox. Lets wait for details info from OP about this issue. to know for sure if the site is working or down try using the tor browser ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) after the update, you will need to clear your entire browser cache and cookies ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I hope admin fixes this soon coz it will affect mehehe profits ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Did anyone else get logged out? I was logged out and can't log back in. No error, the page load just hangs and eventually refreshes. I'm still missing the 5+ BTC I deposited this morning. send it to support + the TX id. Already did. I've been a long time investor since the site launched and have had good communication with the dev. He must be slammed, I haven't heard anything from him. Your deposit should already be credited your account now. Sorry for the waiting, I have also sent you a tip as a small compensation. Hope the dev can get it back up soon, especially for the sake of the investors.
I cant login, someone else has that problem?
yep, same as everyone for now, lets just wait patiently :/ The wait is over, the site is back online again ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Apologies that it took some time for the site to get up.
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zinjo
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April 14, 2015, 02:48:08 AM |
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Thanks for bringing website back online ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Really really good website, have been playing on this website for while now and always satisfied ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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hunkey600
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April 14, 2015, 05:40:12 AM |
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I have tried this safedice, it is worst of all dice games!!
Did you lose yer BTC? i didn't loose, you can check my account with hunkey600 at safe dice i am +0.03. But they will rip you off after giving some profit unlike PD. They tried to do that with me also i almost saved my self. Winning odds were so bad at 70%, 80%.
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waterpile
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April 14, 2015, 05:41:42 AM |
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I have tried this safedice, it is worst of all dice games!!
Did you lose yer BTC? i didn't loose, you can check my account with hunkey600 at safe dice i am +0.03. But they will rip you off after giving some profit unlike PD. They tried to do that with me also i almost saved my self. Winning odds were so bad at 70%, 80%. I'm already at 1.04+btc in profit though and as like as always you guys accuse without a proof ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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Havelivi
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April 14, 2015, 05:54:59 AM |
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I have tried this safedice, it is worst of all dice games!!
Did you lose yer BTC? i didn't loose, you can check my account with hunkey600 at safe dice i am +0.03. But they will rip you off after giving some profit unlike PD. They tried to do that with me also i almost saved my self. Winning odds were so bad at 70%, 80%. I'm already at 1.04+btc in profit though and as like as always you guys accuse without a proof ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) that is nice profit 1.04 BTC safedice is best dice site and many players in profit there and me too also in profit, some person just troll there without any proof.
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NLNico
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April 14, 2015, 06:22:11 AM Last edit: April 14, 2015, 06:53:23 AM by NLNico |
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zinjo
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April 14, 2015, 06:29:45 AM |
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Added SafeDice to http://dicesites.com Also was making the verifier, but I can't seem to get the same results :\ Is the described method: SHA512(SHA512(nonce + ':' + client_seed + server_seed + ':' + nonce))really correct? Maybe I am making a silly mistake, but it's obviously not the first verifier I am making ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) aha, let me know when you find this out! I never knew how to check if rolls are fair or not :/ So i rather stop until you can find out if it's provably fair ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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Havelivi
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April 14, 2015, 06:30:27 AM |
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Added SafeDice to http://dicesites.com Also was making the verifier, but I can't seem to get the same results :\ Is the described method: SHA512(SHA512(nonce + ':' + client_seed + server_seed + ':' + nonce))really correct? Maybe I am making a silly mistake, but it's obviously not the first verifier I am making ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) admin can give the better answer about that because no verifier link for safedice on your website, i would like to use 3rd party verifier for my bets.
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NLNico
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April 14, 2015, 06:40:47 AM Last edit: April 14, 2015, 06:52:45 AM by NLNico |
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Sorry guys, was an error on my side ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) SafeDice verifier online: http://dicesites.com/safedice/verifierBTW: for the admins, the verifier tool takes parameters, so it's possible with: /verifier?ss=*serverseed*&cs=*acountseed*&ln=*lastnonce*&n=*firstnonce*&ssh=*serverseedhash* to send a specific bet or nonce range and have it verified. Could be an option for the bet detail page or after randomizing server seed. Just so you know that option ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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trafficolaa
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April 14, 2015, 07:51:26 AM |
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Sorry guys, was an error on my side ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) SafeDice verifier online: http://dicesites.com/safedice/verifierBTW: for the admins, the verifier tool takes parameters, so it's possible with: /verifier?ss=*serverseed*&cs=*acountseed*&ln=*lastnonce*&n=*firstnonce*&ssh=*serverseedhash* to send a specific bet or nonce range and have it verified. Could be an option for the bet detail page or after randomizing server seed. Just so you know that option ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) that is nice to see verifier is working great for me and there is no difference betwwen roll dice result, thanks for great service.
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SafeDice (OP)
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April 14, 2015, 01:39:23 PM |
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Sorry guys, was an error on my side ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) SafeDice verifier online: http://dicesites.com/safedice/verifierBTW: for the admins, the verifier tool takes parameters, so it's possible with: /verifier?ss=*serverseed*&cs=*acountseed*&ln=*lastnonce*&n=*firstnonce*&ssh=*serverseedhash* to send a specific bet or nonce range and have it verified. Could be an option for the bet detail page or after randomizing server seed. Just so you know that option ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) that is nice to see verifier is working great for me and there is no difference betwwen roll dice result, thanks for great service. That's cool, thanks mate! I've added a verifier link in the bet page to your site, now everyone can easily verify their bets ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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waterpile
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April 14, 2015, 01:47:26 PM |
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Sorry guys, was an error on my side ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) SafeDice verifier online: http://dicesites.com/safedice/verifierBTW: for the admins, the verifier tool takes parameters, so it's possible with: /verifier?ss=*serverseed*&cs=*acountseed*&ln=*lastnonce*&n=*firstnonce*&ssh=*serverseedhash* to send a specific bet or nonce range and have it verified. Could be an option for the bet detail page or after randomizing server seed. Just so you know that option ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) that is nice to see verifier is working great for me and there is no difference betwwen roll dice result, thanks for great service. That's cool, thanks mate! I've added a verifier link in the bet page to your site, now everyone can easily verify their bets ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Cool! Now people can check their bets before screaming the "S" word ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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boliu
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April 14, 2015, 06:43:08 PM |
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all the checking of fairness is good, but after reading and testing, I came to an alarming realization.
for online dice game sites, it's true that the site can't cheat us with provable fair, but what's keeping the site operations from cheating the investors by creating dummy accounts and reviewing their own Server Seed and staring betting?
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98problems
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April 14, 2015, 06:44:56 PM |
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Sorry guys, was an error on my side ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) SafeDice verifier online: http://dicesites.com/safedice/verifierBTW: for the admins, the verifier tool takes parameters, so it's possible with: /verifier?ss=*serverseed*&cs=*acountseed*&ln=*lastnonce*&n=*firstnonce*&ssh=*serverseedhash* to send a specific bet or nonce range and have it verified. Could be an option for the bet detail page or after randomizing server seed. Just so you know that option ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) that is nice to see verifier is working great for me and there is no difference betwwen roll dice result, thanks for great service. That's cool, thanks mate! I've added a verifier link in the bet page to your site, now everyone can easily verify their bets ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) oh thats nice. you were always one of my favorite dice web sites, its cool to see that you add new things to it
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1gallon
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April 14, 2015, 07:04:27 PM |
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Thank you NLNico for adding SafeDice ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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amiryaqot
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April 14, 2015, 08:30:35 PM |
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Sorry guys, was an error on my side ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) SafeDice verifier online: http://dicesites.com/safedice/verifierBTW: for the admins, the verifier tool takes parameters, so it's possible with: /verifier?ss=*serverseed*&cs=*acountseed*&ln=*lastnonce*&n=*firstnonce*&ssh=*serverseedhash* to send a specific bet or nonce range and have it verified. Could be an option for the bet detail page or after randomizing server seed. Just so you know that option ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) that is nice to see verifier is working great for me and there is no difference betwwen roll dice result, thanks for great service. That's cool, thanks mate! I've added a verifier link in the bet page to your site, now everyone can easily verify their bets ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) that is great service nice to see verifier link for bets from dicesites, that is great service and it would be helpful for players to verify their bet from another service.
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waterpile
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April 14, 2015, 08:47:37 PM |
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all the checking of fairness is good, but after reading and testing, I came to an alarming realization.
for online dice game sites, it's true that the site can't cheat us with provable fair, but what's keeping the site operations from cheating the investors by creating dummy accounts and reviewing their own Server Seed and staring betting?
Thats where the trust comes to play ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Chemistry1988
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April 14, 2015, 09:07:15 PM |
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all the checking of fairness is good, but after reading and testing, I came to an alarming realization.
for online dice game sites, it's true that the site can't cheat us with provable fair, but what's keeping the site operations from cheating the investors by creating dummy accounts and reviewing their own Server Seed and staring betting?
Thats where the trust comes to play ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This. You can only trust the site owners that he is not doing it. Also the provably fair system does NOT prevent a site from cheating its players. The site can still cheat, but the player will notice the cheat and will be able to prove it with the provably fair system. One example would be dicebitco.in which cheated by skipping nonce.
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SafeDice (OP)
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April 15, 2015, 03:11:39 PM |
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all the checking of fairness is good, but after reading and testing, I came to an alarming realization.
for online dice game sites, it's true that the site can't cheat us with provable fair, but what's keeping the site operations from cheating the investors by creating dummy accounts and reviewing their own Server Seed and staring betting?
Thats where the trust comes to play ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This. You can only trust the site owners that he is not doing it. Also the provably fair system does NOT prevent a site from cheating its players. The site can still cheat, but the player will notice the cheat and will be able to prove it with the provably fair system. One example would be dicebitco.in which cheated by skipping nonce. Good point, I also would like to point out few things: - Provably fair is not one stop solution, but it does helps a lot. A cheating site can be easily spotted, especially with the help of third party verifier. Seuntjie's bot has a command to check the integrity of all your bets at once, and dicesites.com can get the roll result in a bulk, both of them are integrated to SD. - Site operator does able to play as a players and trust plays an important role in this part. You will have to look at how the operator operate the site and use your instinct. But actually as an investors what you should really look for is the return of your investment and the site's profitability. In the long run, it should be similar to the house edge times the total wager (although the long run can be very long). At this time, I'm lucky I'm able to say this because so far the site's profit is above its expected profit, and our investors have been enjoying their return. But of course it can be easily disrupted by the variance when a whale comes in.
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amiryaqot
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April 15, 2015, 09:16:00 PM |
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Cannot access account history today. I cleared cache and restarted browser, the page still wont load. Is this a known issue?
i did not have any issue like that safedice is loading nice and working smoothly at my side, i think that problem with your browser so try to open in different browser hope that issue will be resolved.
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