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July 25, 2013, 02:47:53 AM
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I have scanned for viruses.. nothing...

I have only 1 tab opened and this happens only on bitzino when I "Roll"... It increases only when I hit Roll and and when i refresh the bitzino page it goes back to normal. When I start rolling again it increases. It is possible that it is something on my side... I will investigate further... for the time being I just refresh from time to time. If I have something I will report back.

Thank you for the additional information! It looks like there was indeed a leak in our craps game. The javascript code was continuing to animate the roll of the dice in the background indefinitely, which was causing the problem with both memory and CPU usage.

We have pushed a fix to this problem, so you no longer will need to refresh the page periodically when playing craps.

Thank you for reporting this issue to us wazaaster! Can you let me know your bitZino username (or PM it to me) so that I can comp you!

I love it when users get comped for finding bugs instead of a pat on the back.

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July 25, 2013, 03:31:41 PM
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I love it when users get comped for finding bugs instead of a pat on the back.

Agree! He was very generous, just because I reported a bug Smiley I was pleasantly surprised!

I was rolling and rolling and at some point I was waiting 8-9 sec for the dice to roll... I thought "buggy firefox" ... that opened Chrome... "what a difference", I thought! After 5 minutes the same situation... than I checked the processes Smiley
I am glad it is fixed! Craps is the best game in this casino (my opinion) Smiley

btw you miss the Big 6 and Big 8 numbers! Not that I will play them, but they have a nice huge house edge (hint hint) Wink
And also normally in casinos you are allowed to take down your don't pass bet at any time... also a nice hint...  Wink
You could check this out: http://www.predictem.com/craps/removing.php
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July 26, 2013, 01:05:10 AM
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Agree! He was very generous, just because I reported a bug Smiley I was pleasantly surprised!

I was rolling and rolling and at some point I was waiting 8-9 sec for the dice to roll... I thought "buggy firefox" ... that opened Chrome... "what a difference", I thought! After 5 minutes the same situation... than I checked the processes Smiley
I am glad it is fixed! Craps is the best game in this casino (my opinion) Smiley

Wow, I can't believe how bad this was. I'm glad it's fixed! We double-checked all of our other games for similar issues, and they all were fine. Thanks again for letting us know about this issue!

btw you miss the Big 6 and Big 8 numbers! Not that I will play them, but they have a nice huge house edge (hint hint) Wink
And also normally in casinos you are allowed to take down your don't pass bet at any time... also a nice hint...  Wink
You could check this out: http://www.predictem.com/craps/removing.php

We specifically got rid of all the sucker bets in our craps game, because craps is already complicated enough for new players Smiley

We also got rid of the difference between "placing" a number vs "buying" a number, which new players often switch up, and therefore get worse odds. Instead, we just offer you the best odds for all the place bets.

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July 29, 2013, 11:38:26 PM
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Show my last 50 blackjack hands if you will.

You either had 21 or drew to 21 at least 15-20 times.

Name: gamer

and yes i was betting small amounts.

I would do it but can't figure out how. thanks
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July 30, 2013, 02:12:37 AM
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inb4 he was actually secretly mining bitcoins with your CPUs. The house must be doing pretty bad if they're resorting to CPU mining Tongue

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July 30, 2013, 02:22:13 AM
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Show my last 50 blackjack hands if you will.

You either had 21 or drew to 21 at least 15-20 times.

Name: gamer

and yes i was betting small amounts.

I would do it but can't figure out how. thanks

If you email our support team (https://bitzino.com/support), they'll be happy to send you a CSV of all your gameplay history.

I've also pasted in the summary of the last 50 hands you played below (all the bet size's were for μ฿). It looks like the house drew to twenty-one 11 times throughout your past 50 hands.

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bet dealer_hand player_hand
203 20 (6s, 4c, Qd) 19 (10s, 9d) [lose -203]
150 17 (2c, Ks, 5c) 14 (8s, 6h) [lose -150]
90 18 (Jc, 8d) 24 (4h, 2c, 8s, Kd) [bust -90]
90 19 (9d, Ks) 17 (6s, 6h, 5s) [lose -90] ; 20 (6d, 4c, Qd) [win +90]
17 18 (5c, 6h, 7s) 20 (Kc, Kc) [win +17]
8 20 (Js, Qc) 15 (5d, 8h, 2s) [lose -8]
5 21 (6s, 5s, Jc) 12 (2h, Qd) [lose -5]
17 17 (10h, 7c) 18 (5s, 3d, Kh) [win +17]
16 23 (3s, 10c, Qc) 20 (Ks, 10s) [win +16]
10 21 (3c, Kh, 8c) 14 (3h, 7d, 4s) [lose -20]
10 8, 18 (Ac, 7c) 18 (2c, 7c, 9c) [push +0]
10 10, 20 (5h, Ad, 4h) 16 (6c, 5s, 5c) [lose -20]
10 20 (2s, 10c, 8d) 13 (Js, 3c) [lose -10]
10 18 (8c, 10s) 19 (9h, 2h, 8h) [win +20]
10 19 (5s, Qh, 4s) 15 (9d, 6h) [lose -10]
10 17, 27 (Kh, 3s, Ah, 3s) 17, 27 (6h, Js, Ac) [push +0]
10 18 (Jd, 5h, 3d) 19 (9d, 10d) [win +10]
10 24 (9s, 5h, 10s) 13 (4h, 9d) [win +10]
10 20 (4h, 5h, 3c, 8c) 20 (5s, 6s, 9h) [push +0]
10 21 (7h, 8c, 6h) 22 (2d, Js, Kd) [bust -10]
10 18 (8c, Kd) 17 (Jc, 7h) [lose -10]
10 24 (10d, 6c, 8c) 17 (7c, Qc) [win +10]
10 11, 21 (10h, Ad) 16 (6h, Jh) [lose -10]
1 23 (6s, 6c, 4d, 7h) 14 (5h, 9h) [win +1]
1 8, 18, 28 (As, As, 6c) 21 (3s, 9c, 9s) [win +1] ; 13 (3s, Jc) [lose -1]
584 20 (5s, Kd, 5c) 9, 19 (4c, Ad, 4s) [lose -584]
846 21 (3s, Jc, 8h) 19 (Qc, 9c) [lose -846]
300 18, 28 (5d, Ac, 9h, 3s) 12 (2d, Qs) [lose -300]
140 10, 20 (9c, Ah) 23 (4c, Jh, 9d) [bust -140]
140 20 (5h, 6h, 9s) 12 (8d, 4s) [lose -140]
60 17 (Qh, 4c, 3s) 22, 32 (2d, 4c, Ah, 6c, 9d) [bust -60]
14 21 (4c, Kh, 7c) 15 (7s, 8s) [lose -14]
500 26 (4d, 2s, Kd, 10s) 19 (9c, Js) [win +500]
300 11, 21 (Ad, 10c) 20 (Ks, 10h) [lose -300]
120 18 (8c, 2c, 2s, 3s, 3h) 23, 33 (6c, Ah, 8d, 8c) [bust -120]
120 19, 29 (3c, 9h, As, 3h, 3d) 19 (5d, 4d, Kd) [push +0]
80 11, 21 (Ad, Jh) 7 (5c, 2h) [lose -80]
80 20 (10h, Kc) 11, 21 (6c, As, 4h) [win +80]
80 10, 20 (9h, Ad) 20 (Jh, 10s) [push +0]
40 10, 20 (9c, Ad) 8, 18 (3h, Ac, 4c) [lose -40]
11 17 (2d, Kc, 5d) 13 (4s, 9h) [lose -11]
11 20 (5s, 5h, Jh) 15 (3s, 6d, 6h) [lose -22]
12 23 (3c, Kd, Qd) 17 (4c, 7s, 6d) [win +24]
3 21 (6h, 5h, Jc) 13 (3d, Js) [lose -3]
3 11, 21 (As, Qh) 20 (Qh, Kc) [lose -3]
3 21 (3s, 8s, Qd) 15 (8h, 7d) [lose -3]
3 18 (7d, 8c, 3c) 20 (Kh, Kc) [win +3]
3 20 (Qh, 10h) 19 (7s, 5s, 2d, 5c) [lose -3]
250 17, 27 (6d, Ad, 10d) 18 (4d, 7h, 7s) [win +500]

inb4 he was actually secretly mining bitcoins with your CPUs. The house must be doing pretty bad if they're resorting to CPU mining Tongue

I assure you we don't do this! And, if we were to do anything like it, we'd at least utilize the GPU with HTML5 technologies Wink

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July 30, 2013, 02:32:40 AM
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Haha, was just joking

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July 30, 2013, 03:28:40 AM
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Show my last 50 blackjack hands if you will.

You either had 21 or drew to 21 at least 15-20 times.

Name: gamer

and yes i was betting small amounts.

I would do it but can't figure out how. thanks

If you email our support team (https://bitzino.com/support), they'll be happy to send you a CSV of all your gameplay history.

I've also pasted in the summary of the last 50 hands you played below (all the bet size's were for μ฿). It looks like the house drew to twenty-one 11 times throughout your past 50 hands.

Code:
bet dealer_hand player_hand
203 20 (6s, 4c, Qd) 19 (10s, 9d) [lose -203]
150 17 (2c, Ks, 5c) 14 (8s, 6h) [lose -150]
90 18 (Jc, 8d) 24 (4h, 2c, 8s, Kd) [bust -90]
90 19 (9d, Ks) 17 (6s, 6h, 5s) [lose -90] ; 20 (6d, 4c, Qd) [win +90]
17 18 (5c, 6h, 7s) 20 (Kc, Kc) [win +17]
8 20 (Js, Qc) 15 (5d, 8h, 2s) [lose -8]
5 21 (6s, 5s, Jc) 12 (2h, Qd) [lose -5]
17 17 (10h, 7c) 18 (5s, 3d, Kh) [win +17]
16 23 (3s, 10c, Qc) 20 (Ks, 10s) [win +16]
10 21 (3c, Kh, 8c) 14 (3h, 7d, 4s) [lose -20]
10 8, 18 (Ac, 7c) 18 (2c, 7c, 9c) [push +0]
10 10, 20 (5h, Ad, 4h) 16 (6c, 5s, 5c) [lose -20]
10 20 (2s, 10c, 8d) 13 (Js, 3c) [lose -10]
10 18 (8c, 10s) 19 (9h, 2h, 8h) [win +20]
10 19 (5s, Qh, 4s) 15 (9d, 6h) [lose -10]
10 17, 27 (Kh, 3s, Ah, 3s) 17, 27 (6h, Js, Ac) [push +0]
10 18 (Jd, 5h, 3d) 19 (9d, 10d) [win +10]
10 24 (9s, 5h, 10s) 13 (4h, 9d) [win +10]
10 20 (4h, 5h, 3c, 8c) 20 (5s, 6s, 9h) [push +0]
10 21 (7h, 8c, 6h) 22 (2d, Js, Kd) [bust -10]
10 18 (8c, Kd) 17 (Jc, 7h) [lose -10]
10 24 (10d, 6c, 8c) 17 (7c, Qc) [win +10]
10 11, 21 (10h, Ad) 16 (6h, Jh) [lose -10]
1 23 (6s, 6c, 4d, 7h) 14 (5h, 9h) [win +1]
1 8, 18, 28 (As, As, 6c) 21 (3s, 9c, 9s) [win +1] ; 13 (3s, Jc) [lose -1]
584 20 (5s, Kd, 5c) 9, 19 (4c, Ad, 4s) [lose -584]
846 21 (3s, Jc, 8h) 19 (Qc, 9c) [lose -846]
300 18, 28 (5d, Ac, 9h, 3s) 12 (2d, Qs) [lose -300]
140 10, 20 (9c, Ah) 23 (4c, Jh, 9d) [bust -140]
140 20 (5h, 6h, 9s) 12 (8d, 4s) [lose -140]
60 17 (Qh, 4c, 3s) 22, 32 (2d, 4c, Ah, 6c, 9d) [bust -60]
14 21 (4c, Kh, 7c) 15 (7s, 8s) [lose -14]
500 26 (4d, 2s, Kd, 10s) 19 (9c, Js) [win +500]
300 11, 21 (Ad, 10c) 20 (Ks, 10h) [lose -300]
120 18 (8c, 2c, 2s, 3s, 3h) 23, 33 (6c, Ah, 8d, 8c) [bust -120]
120 19, 29 (3c, 9h, As, 3h, 3d) 19 (5d, 4d, Kd) [push +0]
80 11, 21 (Ad, Jh) 7 (5c, 2h) [lose -80]
80 20 (10h, Kc) 11, 21 (6c, As, 4h) [win +80]
80 10, 20 (9h, Ad) 20 (Jh, 10s) [push +0]
40 10, 20 (9c, Ad) 8, 18 (3h, Ac, 4c) [lose -40]
11 17 (2d, Kc, 5d) 13 (4s, 9h) [lose -11]
11 20 (5s, 5h, Jh) 15 (3s, 6d, 6h) [lose -22]
12 23 (3c, Kd, Qd) 17 (4c, 7s, 6d) [win +24]
3 21 (6h, 5h, Jc) 13 (3d, Js) [lose -3]
3 11, 21 (As, Qh) 20 (Qh, Kc) [lose -3]
3 21 (3s, 8s, Qd) 15 (8h, 7d) [lose -3]
3 18 (7d, 8c, 3c) 20 (Kh, Kc) [win +3]
3 20 (Qh, 10h) 19 (7s, 5s, 2d, 5c) [lose -3]
250 17, 27 (6d, Ad, 10d) 18 (4d, 7h, 7s) [win +500]

inb4 he was actually secretly mining bitcoins with your CPUs. The Thouse must be doing pretty bad if they're resorting to CPU mining Tongue

I assure you we don't do this! And, if we were to do anything like it, we'd at least utilize the GPU with HTML5 technologies Wink

Awesome you did this guy. But that is not the last 50 hands.

I got lucky on that double down. I played another 20-30 hands after that.

None the less you drew to 21 11 out of 50 hands is kind of crazy. over 20%?

I like your site. But just from just what you posted playing good strategy you guys still have a huge edge. Good luck
 
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July 30, 2013, 03:45:05 AM
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None the less you drew to 21 11 out of 50 hands is kind of crazy. over 20%?

I like your site. But just from just what you posted playing good strategy you guys still have a huge edge. Good luck

From what was just posted we can't tell anything.  50 hands is quite simply not enough upon which to draw any conclusions.

On Just-Dice about a week ago one guy hit two separate runs of 21 losing rolls in a row all within 7k rolls.  The odds against this are enormous.  But when you consider this was just 7000 of over 40 million rolls it makes sense.  Someone is going to have horrible luck at some point, just like someone wins the lottery each week even though it's unlikely for any individual to do so.

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July 30, 2013, 04:34:29 AM
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i agree the numbers do not lie.

but if you can adjust the numbers, well we have a whole different ballgame.

I would like to be on the lying numbers side.
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July 30, 2013, 12:27:16 PM
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On OS X using Safari, autoplay on the slots shoots CPU usage from 5% to hovering around 60%, is this normal?  As soon as I stop autoplay, CPU usage drops back down though.
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July 30, 2013, 08:46:28 PM
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but if you can adjust the numbers, well we have a whole different ballgame.

And fortunately, BitZino is "provably fair" by providing a hash of every deck before each play so that it can later be determined that the numbers were not "adjusted".  
 - http://bitzino.com/about/fair
 - http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/08/31/bitzino-and-the-dawn-of-provably-fair-casino-gaming/

That is a feature you don't get in Vegas (yet), and not a feature provided even with all bitcoin-related online gambling. But with bitZino (and other "provably fair" gaming services), with every hand is the hash which will match the secret given after each play to ensure the sequence of cards in the deck was random (based on the seed provided by your browser) and did not change during play.

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July 30, 2013, 09:23:45 PM
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Thanks for your input Stephen.
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August 01, 2013, 08:04:48 AM
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On OS X using Safari, autoplay on the slots shoots CPU usage from 5% to hovering around 60%, is this normal?  As soon as I stop autoplay, CPU usage drops back down though.

This is expected behavior. Animations typically drive up the CPU usage. As long as it's not too much CPU, and as long as it goes back down when  then animations stop, then everything's fine.

but if you can adjust the numbers, well we have a whole different ballgame.

And fortunately, BitZino is "provably fair" by providing a hash of every deck before each play so that it can later be determined that the numbers were not "adjusted". 
 - http://bitzino.com/about/fair
 - http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/08/31/bitzino-and-the-dawn-of-provably-fair-casino-gaming/

That is a feature you don't get in Vegas (yet), and not a feature provided even with all bitcoin-related online gambling. But with bitZino (and other "provably fair" gaming services), with every hand is the hash which will match the secret given after each play to ensure the sequence of cards in the deck was random (based on the seed provided by your browser) and did not change during play.

Thanks for your input Stephen.

Thanks for the input as well, Stephen! I'm also happy to answer any questions about our provably fair system.

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Since I saw you are online, I am curious to know if you know the answer to this question:
What is the % chance of winning if you eliminate blackjack like being dealt AJ is just simply 21. And excluding blackjack payout of 3:2, what is the Expected return or house edge? Always wondered this since right away you know you lose some value when you are not dealt a blackjack.

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Since I saw you are online, I am curious to know if you know the answer to this question:
What is the % chance of winning if you eliminate blackjack like being dealt AJ is just simply 21. And excluding blackjack payout of 3:2, what is the Expected return or house edge? Always wondered this since right away you know you lose some value when you are not dealt a blackjack.

I can't say for sure, but I would guess it would add a few percentage points to the house edge.

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Since I saw you are online, I am curious to know if you know the answer to this question:
What is the % chance of winning if you eliminate blackjack like being dealt AJ is just simply 21. And excluding blackjack payout of 3:2, what is the Expected return or house edge? Always wondered this since right away you know you lose some value when you are not dealt a blackjack.

Depending on the other rules and whether the player makes the appropriate adjustments to Basic Strategy, it adds about 2.27% to the house edge.

You can see the effects of many rule variations here:
http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/rule-variations/

The quality of posts has dropped to such a low level that all users who are participating in a paid signature campaign are added to my ignore list. If you'd like a copy of the list to improve your browsing experience, you can find it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 (Updated 2016-1-4)
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August 03, 2013, 01:03:46 AM
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This is why I love the "client seed" - you can make hands like this happen:







I love doubles and splits as all of a sudden, you're playing for way higher stakes than you thought. This hand, I got to split 3 times, and then double 2 out of the 4 hands. Results were mixed:



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One tiny issue I had was the buttons.  I feel like Hit and Stand should be exactly next to each other, they should be a bit smaller and have some space in between.  A few times I tried to stand, but I'd hit.  Or I'd wanna hit but I'd stand.  It's my fault for playing too fast and not paying attention to that but it's still easily avoidable Tongue.
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August 05, 2013, 09:44:11 PM
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This is why I love the "client seed" - you can make hands like this happen:

Heh, nice! It is cool to know that your specific client seed completely determined this crazy hand. Any slight change, and you would have had a completely different hand.

One tiny issue I had was the buttons.  I feel like Hit and Stand should be exactly next to each other, they should be a bit smaller and have some space in between.  A few times I tried to stand, but I'd hit.  Or I'd wanna hit but I'd stand.  It's my fault for playing too fast and not paying attention to that but it's still easily avoidable Tongue.

Hm, I'm not sure if adding spaces between the buttons would completely remove the problem of mis-clicks. Maybe keyboard shortcuts would help you avoid mis-clicks? We are still working on that!

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