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Did you even read the title of that paper? "Freestart collision for full SHA-1".
We are talking about SHA-2 (includes SHA-256 and SHA-512) - used by the dice sites.
Do you read my message? you can find for sha-256 and 512 example: New Collision attacks Against Up To 24-step SHA-2https://eprint.iacr.org/2008/270.pdf
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January 16, 2017, 01:11:18 AM |
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From the abstract: Although these attacks improve upon the existing reduced round SHA-2 attacks, they do not threaten the security of the full SHA-2 family. SHA-256 has 64 rounds and SHA-512 has 80 rounds. Since this is impossible to attack, researchers reduce the number of rounds and try to attack that. It gets exponentially more difficult though. So if 24 rounds (from that paper) or even 28 rounds (based on latest papers) of SHA-256 are practical enough to attack - it still doesn't compromise the security of full SHA-2 at all. I will repeat: There are no known SHA-2 collisions. How about you just give me 1 example of a SHA-256 and SHA-512 collision? Since you claim dice site owners can generate these on the fly, you should easily be able to give us just 1? If you want we make a bet out of, I will be happy to bet some coins on this (with escrow obviously.)
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ethan_nx
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January 25, 2017, 09:31:52 AM |
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Hi, I am Ethan, creator/owner/admin of YOLOdice.com. I was wondering if you could list our game. YD already has 730 BTC wagered, 200 BTC in bankroll and ~50 BTC of site profit, allows investing and seems to be getting traction pretty fast. I suppose you need some kind of API integration to get stats from the server. I am open to any ideas. I definitely like your idea of dice-only sites! Cheers, Ethan
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January 26, 2017, 11:07:15 AM |
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Hello,
I don't know if this was asked before but will you guys enable verification checking for Fortunejack dice?
For every roll they create a new server seed hash AND a client seed (you can change this) and they have a verification but wondering if there is a 3rd party one I can use.
Is it possible for this site, I tried to use the Primedice one however the results didn't match.
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January 27, 2017, 04:56:45 PM |
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Hi there!
I looked at your site and I am very impressed! Thank you for featuring SafeDice on your site! I do have one question, is there a way to update our max win on your site because right now it says 24 BTC but you can actually win 63 BTC in one roll at SafeDice at the moment.
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January 27, 2017, 05:10:33 PM |
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Hi there!
I looked at your site and I am very impressed! Thank you for featuring SafeDice on your site! I do have one question, is there a way to update our max win on your site because right now it says 24 BTC but you can actually win 63 BTC in one roll at SafeDice at the moment.
If we attempt to win 63 BTC what house edge will be on that roll?
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Juicey_SD
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January 27, 2017, 07:18:55 PM |
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Hi there!
I looked at your site and I am very impressed! Thank you for featuring SafeDice on your site! I do have one question, is there a way to update our max win on your site because right now it says 24 BTC but you can actually win 63 BTC in one roll at SafeDice at the moment.
If we attempt to win 63 BTC what house edge will be on that roll? If you rolled 63 BTC the house edge would be 4.5% but 10 BTC roll is .8% house edge.
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NLNico (OP)
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January 28, 2017, 05:35:56 AM |
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I am Ethan, creator/owner/admin of YOLOdice.com. I was wondering if you could list our game. YD already has 730 BTC wagered, 200 BTC in bankroll and ~50 BTC of site profit, allows investing and seems to be getting traction pretty fast. That is indeed a pretty good start, nice job I generally only add sites that has been around for a while though. So while I do expect to follow your site personally, I will probably just add it after some more time. Besides that, I am still finishing my new version of the site and will add other sites (that has been waiting longer :d) first too. I suppose you need some kind of API integration to get stats from the server. I am open to any ideas. I definitely like your idea of dice-only sites! Yes, ideally I can just get the stats in JSON format from some URL I don't know if this was asked before but will you guys enable verification checking for Fortunejack dice? The problem is that they faked statistics before. Since my site is all about statistics, I find that a pretty serious issue. Of course I could just add only a verifier and not that stats-part.. but I am not sure. I will still think a bit about that I looked at your site and I am very impressed! Thank you for featuring SafeDice on your site! I do have one question, is there a way to update our max win on your site because right now it says 24 BTC but you can actually win 63 BTC in one roll at SafeDice at the moment.
Thanks. The max profit of SafeDice on my website, is based on the highest house edge from other dice sites (which is SatoshiDice at 1.9% HE.) So you are able to win 24.1 BTC on SafeDice with a house edge of exactly 1.9% (and this is automatically updated to always be at 1.9% HE.) I consider that the most fair way of showing the max profit of SafeDice, since I don't recommend people to bet with a 5% HE.
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January 28, 2017, 06:02:47 AM |
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Ahhh okay now I understand. That makes sense and I really like the site by the way.
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January 28, 2017, 06:31:52 AM |
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Can Duckdice also be added to your site Nico?
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ethan_nx
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January 31, 2017, 12:41:32 PM |
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I am Ethan, creator/owner/admin of YOLOdice.com. I was wondering if you could list our game. YD already has 730 BTC wagered, 200 BTC in bankroll and ~50 BTC of site profit, allows investing and seems to be getting traction pretty fast. That is indeed a pretty good start, nice job I generally only add sites that has been around for a while though. So while I do expect to follow your site personally, I will probably just add it after some more time. Besides that, I am still finishing my new version of the site and will add other sites (that has been waiting longer :d) first too. I suppose you need some kind of API integration to get stats from the server. I am open to any ideas. I definitely like your idea of dice-only sites! Yes, ideally I can just get the stats in JSON format from some URL Thanks for your answer! I will ping you after a while then. Good luck with your site! Cheers, Ethan
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gamblingbad
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February 03, 2017, 05:28:09 PM |
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Used dicesite.com for long time but now dicesite.com is dead and useless site now. Since developer dont care about site anymore.
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February 03, 2017, 05:35:54 PM |
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Used dicesite.com for long time but now dicesite.com is dead and useless site now. Since developer dont care about site anymore.
How is it a useless site? I use it and I find it very informative.
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February 03, 2017, 06:05:15 PM |
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Used dicesite.com for long time but now dicesite.com is dead and useless site now. Since developer dont care about site anymore.
It is dicesite s.com. U missed the tailing s.
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gamblingbad
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February 03, 2017, 06:06:01 PM |
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Used dicesite.com for long time but now dicesite.com is dead and useless site now. Since developer dont care about site anymore.
How is it a useless site? I use it and I find it very informative. They not update sites, there is a alot of new sites not on there. And alot of them are more people on and more wager on
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February 03, 2017, 06:06:30 PM |
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How can I add my site to the list?
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gamblingbad
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February 03, 2017, 06:09:24 PM |
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How can I add my site to the list?
I understand Nlnico very well, he have a very nice life and retired. And do other stuff that interest he more.
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Used dicesite.com for long time but now dicesite.com is dead and useless site now. Since developer dont care about site anymore.
Yeah, it's just a stupid parking page. But dicesites.com on the other hand is pretty cool It was cool site 1 year ago when it had all best sites on it.
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February 03, 2017, 06:13:59 PM |
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Used dicesite.com for long time but now dicesite.com is dead and useless site now. Since developer dont care about site anymore.
It is dicesite s.com. U missed the tailing s. Whats your point ?
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Activity: 1904
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Goodbye, Z.
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February 03, 2017, 06:18:11 PM |
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Wanna collect that in a single post instead of making 3 posts back to back?
They not update sites, there is a alot of new sites not on there. And alot of them are more people on and more wager on
While I agree that the update is long overdue, who are we to request anything? Nico is doing this for free and they will get things done when they get things done. Yes, there are sites that probably should be added, some that are waiting for a long time now, but the ones that are on there are good sites aswell, and I like the easy tracking of stats and comparing between sites Nicos overview offers. Things could be better, but that doesn't mean what's there is bad. How can I add my site to the list?
Get bigger and wait a long time
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