ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH

[Searing]

Dogie you said they're skipping the S6 as that was the S4+, this is not going to be instead of the S7 which is rumored to be launched before the end of the year is it?

S5+
http://shop.bitmain.cn/goods.php?id=47

$3061.04 usd is what i got for a price yuan to usd for those too lazy to do this. Probably shipping is extra

man it is a beast that is for sure ...not recommended for home use indeed Indeed!

on tradeblock with my 13c kwh elec ..assuming I won the lottery and got one as a NO ROI toy I get this again from www.tradeblock.com page

7722gh

3436 watts

add your guess and shipping on the above calculator....but at 13c kwh for me at current btc price it is pretty dang ugly to say the least


oh well a good asic porn pic

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[philipma1957]

I want just the center unit and the controller for 900 shipped.

I want to buy add on left or right sides for 750 a piece.


come on bitmain sell them like this!!!!!!!


solves a shit ton of issues.


and if I am right the center would do 2550 gh at 1134 watts  the lower cost would allow it to come into the usa with zero repeat zero duty issues.

I would be willing to do a long series of tests for you if you sell me a center piece with the controller. At a decent price.

I guess 900 is low but you would get a long write up showing how to run it .


What a nice way for home miners to get back into mining sell us the center piece with an  add-on option for later!!!


This pricing avoids all usa duty issues since the center piece would be well under 2500 usd price.

[RichBC]

come on bitmain sell them like this!!!!!!!


solves a shit ton of issues.


and if I am right the center would do 2550 gh at 1134 watts  the lower cost would allow it to come into the usa with zero repeat zero duty issues.

A very nice idea indeed.

For the home miner it would be perfect if they were to fully populated the S5+ Hash boards moving from 16 Trios 48 chips to 18 Trios 54 chips. This would drop the Core voltage from 0.75V to 0.67V Total Hash would drop from 2574GH to 1944GH and the Power would drop from 1192W to 758W nicely in the zone for a 1200W PSU. Efficiency would improve from 0.46J/GH to 0.39J/GH. All these figure approx calculations.

[Tigggger]

$3061.04 usd is what i got for a price yuan to usd for those too lazy to do this. Probably shipping is extra

man it is a beast that is for sure ...not recommended for home use indeed Indeed!

on tradeblock with my 13c kwh elec ..assuming I won the lottery and got one as a NO ROI toy I get this again from www.tradeblock.com page

7722gh

3436 watts

add your guess and shipping on the above calculator....but at 13c kwh for me at current btc price it is pretty dang ugly to say the least


oh well a good asic porn pic

Given a shipping cost of $90, and NO increase in difficulty, a handy table to see how ugly

[mavericklm]

Still an interesting miner for me.

I may accommodate 4kw miner

Curious how will compare with 2*sp3x underclocked...

Why s5+??? this should have been the s6 or s5x3 or something like that

[bgibso01]

I noticed they are listing 25C as the ambient temperature for measuring watts. There's no mention of operating temperature range.  Is it still up to 35C?  And what kind of factors are we looking at with the higher temps.  With summer here in the US, seems like it could be a serious issue since no one will want to spend the money on a/c.

Also, they have a 33% increase in $/gh ($.31 to $.41), 13% reduction in w/gh (.51 to .44).  I guess they can charge the premiums to China because of the cheaper elec.  Not seeing a great deal for the US though.

[dogie]

They didn't insist on anything, it was arbitrarily inherited from the rev 3+ S3 board which had 2 PCI-E connectors per 160W board. And its not a rare thing, look back in this thread, plenty of people (including me) running S5s on single PCI-Es.

You say that like the board design was unchanged between the two.
S5 is a stringed power design, S3 had voltage conversion, which implies AT LEAST a major redesign if not a "from scratch" design of the S5 hash boards specifically including the power circuitry. There was no "inherit" based on looking at the COMPLETE REDESIGN of the power setup for the S5.

The power into the board didn't change, it still accepts in 12V. String design was achieved by removing the DC-DC and chaining the chips together - that has nothing to do with the PCI-E connections. The S3 to the S5 board retained the same dimensions (-~1cm off the top), the same mounting holes and the same 2 PCI-E connectors. It is NOT a declaration that you must use 2 PCI-E connections.

bitmain should have been running 8 pin pci-e plugs since the s3.. this is from a seasonic 850 watt psu, running 2 s3s.. running at 225 speed. this psu came with 4 PCI-E cables with 2 plugs each.. so all 4 of the pci-e plugs on the s3s were plugged in. as you can see, it melted.. the s5 uses more power from the pci-e then the s3 does.. any plug in style the same as this will eventually melt..

So you were running 620W over 8 PCI-E connectors (77.5W) and it melted. Maybe you should both consider that maybe its your Seasonic PSUs that could have a problem, not the rest of the world or the other 10,000s of S3s.

[dogie]

The PCI-e cables themselves have a specification that they are expected to work within.
Some manufacturers may build cables closer to those limits than other manufacturers, but they are still within the specifications.

If you're defaulting to the "you only run 75W because the specification says so", then good for you. The rest of us will continue doing what we've been doing for years.

I feel like you're arbitrarily deciding what will work or not. I've actively tried these things and I've actively measured cable temps so it doesn't really make sense for you to say its all about to explode.

Your the one who is "arbitrarily deciding"

*You're. I am not arbitrarily deciding, I'm using past evidence and testing.

You have someone somewhere telling you what to say is OK. Keep being a good little doggie and doing as you are told. Ignore specifications, they're only for he faint of heart who think failures and fires matter

I haven't worked with Bitmain in months, who is "telling me what to say" now, what will you default to next? Maybe its your hated towards Bitmain telling you what to say, I didn't see you hating on the SP20s 300W stock PCI-E connections. But now of course you're outraged that Bitmain has the option to run 190W connectors to use less PCI-E connectors, or 125W connectors using more.

I also enjoy how you're somehow blaming the entire industry using and being okay with 300W PCI-E connections on me as if its something I decided. People have been using 300W PCI-E connections for years and will continue to do so regardless of if you throw a tantrum about a PSU you had dying while running 80W connections.

[dogie]

You probably were running those S3's in a cool environment .... I've had a few scrapes with singly powered S3 boards during the winter. The cables may be in spec when running at those speeds, but bitmain's testing is also based on average ambients, so low(er) ambients will result in better efficiency and higher power draws ....

Bitmain's testing is based off Eastern farm temps of 35-40C without evaporative. That's about the limit for an S4+ without risking them flicking off but the other previous miners can go higher without issue. That's not to say anything about the S5+'s performance or capability, I have not tested it.

[pekatete]

You probably were running those S3's in a cool environment .... I've had a few scrapes with singly powered S3 boards during the winter. The cables may be in spec when running at those speeds, but bitmain's testing is also based on average ambients, so low(er) ambients will result in better efficiency and higher power draws ....

Bitmain's testing is based off Eastern farm temps of 35-40C without evaporative. That's about the limit for an S4+ without risking them flicking off but the other previous miners can go higher without issue. That's not to say anything about the S5+'s performance or capability, I have not tested it.

More waffle than fact ... as far as I know, 25C is the stated rating ambient (for power draw cum et al?), with a recomended 35C operating ambient. To me that says tested at 25C.

[dogie]

You probably were running those S3's in a cool environment .... I've had a few scrapes with singly powered S3 boards during the winter. The cables may be in spec when running at those speeds, but bitmain's testing is also based on average ambients, so low(er) ambients will result in better efficiency and higher power draws ....

Bitmain's testing is based off Eastern farm temps of 35-40C without evaporative. That's about the limit for an S4+ without risking them flicking off but the other previous miners can go higher without issue. That's not to say anything about the S5+'s performance or capability, I have not tested it.

More waffle than fact ... as far as I know, 25C is the stated rating ambient (for power draw cum et al?), with a recomended 35C operating ambient. To me that says tested at 25C.

You were trying to detail Bitmain's testing protocols, without actually knowing Bitmain's testing procotols...

[pekatete]

You probably were running those S3's in a cool environment .... I've had a few scrapes with singly powered S3 boards during the winter. The cables may be in spec when running at those speeds, but bitmain's testing is also based on average ambients, so low(er) ambients will result in better efficiency and higher power draws ....

Bitmain's testing is based off Eastern farm temps of 35-40C without evaporative. That's about the limit for an S4+ without risking them flicking off but the other previous miners can go higher without issue. That's not to say anything about the S5+'s performance or capability, I have not tested it.

More waffle than fact ... as far as I know, 25C is the stated rating ambient (for power draw cum et al?), with a recomended 35C operating ambient. To me that says tested at 25C.

You were trying to detail Bitmain's testing protocols, without actually knowing Bitmain's testing procotols...

You really are a chancer. What reason do I have to know "bitmain's testing protocols" (whatever that means) if they clearly state the basis for their specifications' ratings (ambient inclusive)? You really do not need to know more than that, just read the specifications ...  (no wonder bitmain customer service is down the drain if they count you amongst them, you fraud).

So where did you pick that nonsense of Eastern farm temps of 35-40C other than the need to waffle no end, when you could have read it off the specs? By the way, no need to answer, I tired of your tripe.

[OgNasty]

S5+
http://shop.bitmain.cn/goods.php?id=47

Any ETA on an english page being made available?

[kano]

The PCI-e cables themselves have a specification that they are expected to work within.
Some manufacturers may build cables closer to those limits than other manufacturers, but they are still within the specifications.

If you're defaulting to the "you only run 75W because the specification says so", then good for you. The rest of us will continue doing what we've been doing for years.

I feel like you're arbitrarily deciding what will work or not. I've actively tried these things and I've actively measured cable temps so it doesn't really make sense for you to say its all about to explode.

Your the one who is "arbitrarily deciding"

*You're. I am not arbitrarily deciding, I'm using past evidence and testing.

Yaw n - wake up.

You have someone somewhere telling you what to say is OK. Keep being a good little doggie and doing as you are told. Ignore specifications, they're only for he faint of heart who think failures and fires matter

I haven't worked with Bitmain in months, who is "telling me what to say" now, what will you default to next? Maybe its your hated towards Bitmain telling you what to say, I didn't see you hating on the SP20s 300W stock PCI-E connections. But now of course you're outraged that Bitmain has the option to run 190W connectors to use less PCI-E connectors, or 125W connectors using more.

I also enjoy how you're somehow blaming the entire industry using and being okay with 300W PCI-E connections on me as if its something I decided. People have been using 300W PCI-E connections for years and will continue to do so regardless of if you throw a tantrum about a PSU you had dying while running 80W connections.

The connectors on the S2 are supplied by Bitmain - you saying that Bitmain went cheapo and supplied below spec cables?
It's not the cables that failed or the S2, it's the S2 PSU as I stated - yeah you've no idea what you are talking about.

Meanwhile,
My 2xS3 - one the cables are fine, the other the cables get quite warm.
My S5 - cables are all OK.
In all cases using high quality PSUs - not running above spec.

Fool, let me point out the blatantly obvious what you clearly have completely missed ...
Bitmain supplies S3,S3+,S5,S5+ miners, that do NOT come with PCI-e cables.
Your statement is quite clearly that any PCI-e cable is OK to run over spec.
Try engaging your brain before typing.

[VirosaGITS]

Fool, let me point out the blatantly obvious what you clearly have completely missed ...
Bitmain supplies S3,S3+,S5,S5+ miners, that do NOT come with PCI-e cables.
Your statement is quite clearly that any PCI-e cable is OK to run over spec.
Try engaging your brain before typing.

That's some pretty strong punch. I will keep this one on my wall as it made me exclaim myself in real life.
I don't have anything to say for or against but still between the lines of punch and kicks there's some good information there.

I'll have to check those dual 6pin cable...

[steven.G999]

Is it too late to buy an S5? Did they announce when will S6's be send?

[gerardo15]

I want just the center unit and the controller for 900 shipped.

I want to buy add on left or right sides for 750 a piece.


come on bitmain sell them like this!!!!!!!


solves a shit ton of issues.


and if I am right the center would do 2550 gh at 1134 watts  the lower cost would allow it to come into the usa with zero repeat zero duty issues.

I would be willing to do a long series of tests for you if you sell me a center piece with the controller. At a decent price.

I guess 900 is low but you would get a long write up showing how to run it .


What a nice way for home miners to get back into mining sell us the center piece with an  add-on option for later!!!


This pricing avoids all usa duty issues since the center piece would be well under 2500 usd price.

Where did you get this idea that shipping above 2500 will have duty problems?

My last order was 2 S4+ and 4 S5, that was about 4000 dollars order. and got right to my place in 2 bussinnes days in FL shipped from bitmaintech.

[MyRig]

S5 are still available at http://www.bitmaintech.com

Is it too late to buy an S5? Did they announce when will S6's be send?

[philipma1957]

I want just the center unit and the controller for 900 shipped.

I want to buy add on left or right sides for 750 a piece.


come on bitmain sell them like this!!!!!!!


solves a shit ton of issues.


and if I am right the center would do 2550 gh at 1134 watts  the lower cost would allow it to come into the usa with zero repeat zero duty issues.

I would be willing to do a long series of tests for you if you sell me a center piece with the controller. At a decent price.

I guess 900 is low but you would get a long write up showing how to run it .


What a nice way for home miners to get back into mining sell us the center piece with an  add-on option for later!!!


This pricing avoids all usa duty issues since the center piece would be well under 2500 usd price.

Where did you get this idea that shipping above 2500 will have duty problems?

My last order was 2 S4+ and 4 S5, that was about 4000 dollars order. and got right to my place in 2 bussinnes days in FL shipped from bitmaintech.

More then one of us has had duty issues over the 2500 price mark. Fedex did this with a few buyers.  DHL also did it.

I ordered all my bitmaintech gear using ups to ship.  I also always order in the 1000 dollar range. Just to avoid issues.

[gerardo15]

I want just the center unit and the controller for 900 shipped.

I want to buy add on left or right sides for 750 a piece.


come on bitmain sell them like this!!!!!!!


solves a shit ton of issues.


and if I am right the center would do 2550 gh at 1134 watts  the lower cost would allow it to come into the usa with zero repeat zero duty issues.

I would be willing to do a long series of tests for you if you sell me a center piece with the controller. At a decent price.

I guess 900 is low but you would get a long write up showing how to run it .


What a nice way for home miners to get back into mining sell us the center piece with an  add-on option for later!!!


This pricing avoids all usa duty issues since the center piece would be well under 2500 usd price.

Where did you get this idea that shipping above 2500 will have duty problems?

My last order was 2 S4+ and 4 S5, that was about 4000 dollars order. and got right to my place in 2 bussinnes days in FL shipped from bitmaintech.

More then one of us has had duty issues over the 2500 price mark. Fedex did this with a few buyers.  DHL also did it.

I ordered all my bitmaintech gear using ups to ship.  I also always order in the 1000 dollar range. Just to avoid issues.

Yes i also use UPS, i hate the idea that S5s are still cheaper than to get this new monster.