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July 27, 2015, 11:35:41 AM |
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Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards new miner purchases
Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.
These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.
Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.
At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.
How about those of us that had an order pending and suddenly just as we got the payment together *poof* no more "new" S5s exist? I would have had the money together a month or so sooner if y'all hadn't kept jacking the price up. They have had different phases of how they do coupons. It's hard to tell what this one will be like. At one point they were hard to get (I have a feeling this will be true). Others it was like they gave out candy and just a email got them. With it being "customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently" I have a feeling it will be limited amount of coupons and they dont give out like candy.
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July 27, 2015, 12:31:42 PM |
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Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards new miner purchases
Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.
These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.
Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.
At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.
Thanks for the update! And thanks for extending the 15-day warranty on these "second-hand" S5's to 30 days! It makes them a little easier to sell :-) By the way, just a little English-language suggestion: PLEASE stop calling these "second hand" -- that term has very negative connotations in English that you would NOT want associated with your products: the term is usually used to describe worn, damaged and degraded items (usually clothing or furniture) that have been passed down person to person (or generations of a family). Second hand goods are typically given way for free to the poor or sold for a fraction of their original price. The professional terms used in the electronics industry for used devices that are tested, maybe-repaired and resold by the original manufacturer are: - "Factory Refurbished" - "Factory Certified Returns" - "Open Box Items" and it's also standard in the industry to offer the same full warranty on such items as new good, to assure buyers they are just as good as new!
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July 27, 2015, 12:41:30 PM |
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Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards new miner purchases
Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.
These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.
Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.
At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.
Thanks for the update! And thanks for extending the 15-day warranty on these "second-hand" S5's to 30 days! It makes them a little easier to sell :-) By the way, just a little English-language suggestion: PLEASE stop calling these "second hand" -- that term has very negative connotations in English that you would NOT want associated with your products: the term is usually used to describe worn, damaged and degraded items (usually clothing or furniture) that have been passed down person to person (or generations of a family). Second hand goods are typically given way for free to the poor or sold for a fraction of their original price. The professional terms used in the electronics industry for used devices that are tested, maybe-repaired and resold by the original manufacturer are: - "Factory Refurbished" - "Factory Certified Returns" - "Open Box Items" and it's also standard in the industry to offer the same full warranty on such items as new good, to assure buyers they are just as good as new! The second hand term I think is proper, as they have been running up to 40 days. I think they handled it well at this point though with that post. If they would have posted day one would have been better. I suggest next time launching a sale like this and info at same time. Below is why I don't think other terms are proper - "Factory Refurbished" - these are still working miners they were not refurbished, just checked for performance. I see refurbished going in re pasting, making it just like it was brand new. - "Factory Certified Returns" this they are not returns it is from data center bitmain owns so again sounds good but not acccurate - "Open Box Items" Open box goes to where it does not tell much and these did not set in a open box they were on a rack running. I think second hand is very fair term, and they have now done a great job explaining it.
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July 27, 2015, 02:11:46 PM |
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[...] I think second hand is very fair term, and they have now done a great job explaining it.
The only gripe i have with the "Second Hand" fact, is that to receive the goods in my country without paying stupid amounts to DHL i have to add 2 weeks to the shipment... and their warranty is 4 weeks... hope there's no issue with the miners, if so i will have a VERY narrow window to use that warranty (not that i have had to do it, in the past all my miners have run without a hitch, off course, with some maintenance and regular cleaning).
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July 27, 2015, 02:20:31 PM |
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Will purchases to be hosted an Hashnest also support future coupons issued?
I have no where to put more units but have the coin to buy more and would need them hosted, but I wasn't planning on buying anymore of this generation, but providing coupons for future purchases kind of sweetened the deal here.
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July 27, 2015, 02:21:35 PM |
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[...] I think second hand is very fair term, and they have now done a great job explaining it.
The only gripe i have with the "Second Hand" fact, is that to receive the goods in my country without paying stupid amounts to DHL i have to add 2 weeks to the shipment... and their warranty is 4 weeks... hope there's no issue with the miners, if so i will have a VERY narrow window to use that warranty (not that i have had to do it, in the past all my miners have run without a hitch, off course, with some maintenance and regular cleaning). You can't really blame Bitmain on any of that. That is something you need to complain to your country about, I agree it's not fair some pay insane import tax (I'm guessing that is part of the dhl). But Bitmain did not make that rule. I have had good luck as far as Bitmain to US. Always quick and never had a problem.
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July 27, 2015, 02:22:36 PM |
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[...] I think second hand is very fair term, and they have now done a great job explaining it.
The only gripe i have with the "Second Hand" fact, is that to receive the goods in my country without paying stupid amounts to DHL i have to add 2 weeks to the shipment... and their warranty is 4 weeks... hope there's no issue with the miners, if so i will have a VERY narrow window to use that warranty (not that i have had to do it, in the past all my miners have run without a hitch, off course, with some maintenance and regular cleaning). You can't really blame Bitmain on any of that. That is something you need to complain to your country about, I agree it's not fair some pay insane import tax (I'm guessing that is part of the dhl). But Bitmain did not make that rule. I have had good luck as far as Bitmain to US. Always quick and never had a problem. U.S. may not be far behind, there are talks about adding an import tax for goods with the 2017 tax reform. I guess buy all your miners now.
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July 27, 2015, 02:30:45 PM |
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[...] I think second hand is very fair term, and they have now done a great job explaining it.
The only gripe i have with the "Second Hand" fact, is that to receive the goods in my country without paying stupid amounts to DHL i have to add 2 weeks to the shipment... and their warranty is 4 weeks... hope there's no issue with the miners, if so i will have a VERY narrow window to use that warranty (not that i have had to do it, in the past all my miners have run without a hitch, off course, with some maintenance and regular cleaning). You can't really blame Bitmain on any of that. That is something you need to complain to your country about, I agree it's not fair some pay insane import tax (I'm guessing that is part of the dhl). But Bitmain did not make that rule. I have had good luck as far as Bitmain to US. Always quick and never had a problem. U.S. may not be far behind, there are talks about adding an import tax for goods with the 2017 tax reform. I guess buy all your miners now. Ehhh there are always talks about almost everything. I don't think we will be getting one in US anytime soon. But I could be wrong. Anways it's falling off topic back to S5's ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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July 27, 2015, 02:38:06 PM |
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[...] I think second hand is very fair term, and they have now done a great job explaining it.
The only gripe i have with the "Second Hand" fact, is that to receive the goods in my country without paying stupid amounts to DHL i have to add 2 weeks to the shipment... and their warranty is 4 weeks... hope there's no issue with the miners, if so i will have a VERY narrow window to use that warranty (not that i have had to do it, in the past all my miners have run without a hitch, off course, with some maintenance and regular cleaning). You can't really blame Bitmain on any of that. That is something you need to complain to your country about, I agree it's not fair some pay insane import tax (I'm guessing that is part of the dhl). But Bitmain did not make that rule. I have had good luck as far as Bitmain to US. Always quick and never had a problem. Yeah, but usual "refurbished" products (which you could label as lower quality than these good operating units) have 90 days warranty. Not that i'm complaining, luckily Bitmain is the only manufacturer that is "kind" enough to sell to us mere mortals, and their gear is top notch if not for certain bugs here and there (usual for ANY tech company, i have a Samsung TV that hangs on certain conditions, and they haven't issued a fixed firmware since 5 years ago, go figure).
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July 28, 2015, 12:12:16 AM |
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These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, Just as I speculated, about long enough for manufacturer to ROI the machine. Nice business model, they basically get paid twice for each machine. Thank you for stating it publicly, now if only you'd price them to reflect their used nature!
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July 28, 2015, 12:22:47 AM |
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These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, Just as I speculated, about long enough for manufacturer to ROI the machine. Nice business model, they basically get paid twice for each machine. Thank you for stating it publicly, now if only you'd price them to reflect their used nature! in 40 days S5 produces just ~$130 minus electricity (has to be at least $18.48 if the cost is 3c/kwh), so no more than $110 produced. It could pad the margins, though.
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July 28, 2015, 01:18:32 AM |
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Just unboxed a couple S5's I bought a while back and found one of them had obviously been used excessively. It has soot all over the heatsink. I have submitted a WTF email to Bitmain...I guess they really are going downhill ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHFtddQ7.jpg&t=665&c=16wyU5iHwQ3F5Q)
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July 28, 2015, 02:33:27 AM |
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These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, Just as I speculated, about long enough for manufacturer to ROI the machine. Nice business model, they basically get paid twice for each machine. Thank you for stating it publicly, now if only you'd price them to reflect their used nature! in 40 days S5 produces just ~$130 minus electricity (has to be at least $18.48 if the cost is 3c/kwh), so no more than $110 produced. It could pad the margins, though. And if they get 110 usd in coin before they pack it. Then charge 10 usd extra for shipping By this charge 50 to ship when they pay 40 to ship. they are 120 plus 410 which is 530 per machine. The most an s-5 cost to build is 200 usd so an easy 330 profit. Now I want them to do well. Why? I think they can sell the s-5 for 250 plus shipping and I think it is a bad idea to do it. I think selling low will make make btc drop under 200. Usd
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July 28, 2015, 05:29:07 AM |
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Just unboxed a couple S5's I bought a while back and found one of them had obviously been used excessively. It has soot all over the heatsink. I have submitted a WTF email to Bitmain...I guess they really are going downhill ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHFtddQ7.jpg&t=665&c=16wyU5iHwQ3F5Q) Let us know how it goes! That was not the "2nd hand" unit was it? It was still a batch that showed new right?
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Mine have been running solid for 7 months, they are not as dirty as that picture.
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It could pad the margins, though.
margins? Very last S3+ (brand new) they were selling for around 200USD and S5s is much cheaper in production
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to bad to they did a really nice job on that site it looks so real. 48 dollars for a S3 lol .
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Just unboxed a couple S5's I bought a while back and found one of them had obviously been used excessively. It has soot all over the heatsink. I have submitted a WTF email to Bitmain...I guess they really are going downhill https://i.imgur.com/HFtddQ7.jpgLet us know how it goes! That was not the "2nd hand" unit was it? It was still a batch that showed new right?Bitmain has been doing this for quite some time now - Passing off obviously used and dirty units as "brand new". I've received dirty and used "brand new units" myself.
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July 28, 2015, 02:01:25 PM |
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Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards new miner purchases
Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.
These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.
Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.
At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.
This is the Bitmain we all know !!! TY for letting us know i was getting worried .I mean that.
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