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January 24, 2015, 04:31:13 AM |
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Bitcoin was planned with decades in sight, not only some years.
Inflation might be big right now, but it will lower in a few years.
The thing is people look at it as a way for fast return of investment. Bitcoin is definitely a long term plan and people just have to learn and accept the fact. The call to boycott are those who fit into this group.
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January 24, 2015, 03:19:46 PM |
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You know what?... if bitcoin is bothering you in anyway just get the fuck out... seriously this fud bs is older than Edison... er wait Edison was a pioneer that once said "“I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.” Stop whining... just leave... the rest of us will reap the rewards.
what are you talking about sounds simple, but enough to make me excited back. I think you used to be a motivator, or indeed you are a motivator ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 24, 2015, 03:26:52 PM |
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Bitcoin needs to be canceled. It has nothing to do anymore with the original idea of cryptocurrency.
Thank you for your attention and time.
Its not ideal but it has the network and all the other currencies offer nothing unique. If you want to boycott i say go ahead but looking at all the other negative things in the world bitcoin is very low priority on the list to critique imo.
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January 24, 2015, 03:33:32 PM |
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I support OPs thinking and ideas, but I dont support a campaign to boycott bitcoin.
And I would like to add:
- Full nodes deserve rewards. It's utterly unfair and illogical, that only miners get paid. Disclaimer: I dont know of a good way to pay full nodes. As there are so many, to be paying them every block.
- It's very sad that the (technology oriented) group of early adopting bitcoiners have splitted into the following three subgroups:
1.) One World Order-Bitcoiners (strict anti alternative coins) 2.) Open Minded Bitcoiners 3.) Crypto Currency-supporters
We are in a bad situation now. WE NEED TO UNITE AGAIN UNDER THE LABEL OF CRYPTO CURRENCY!
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January 24, 2015, 03:37:10 PM |
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Here we go with the Ponzi accusations again. How could you potentially change inequality? No coin can change inequality. Be there first = get a bigger piece of the cake. This will always happen. What matters is if the code and protocol work and Bitcoin works.
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January 24, 2015, 05:39:49 PM |
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I don't think it matters whether you agree or disagree with the elimination of Bitcoin!
How would YOU go about eliminating it?
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January 24, 2015, 05:58:37 PM |
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denied.
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January 24, 2015, 06:06:21 PM |
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denied.
i, sure there is another way to fix open source program which the OP might think flawed, OP might as well create new alt-coin... wait... maybe he already did eh ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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January 25, 2015, 12:31:07 AM |
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The recent discussion about the hardfork ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.0) and this long bearmarket has brought several things to light: -Bitcoin suffers from high inflation and is unable to maintain its value. This makes it unfit for use in daily business, slows adoption and makes it very volatile and a psychological terror for many people -The bitcoiners (especially the bigger bagholders) in large parts suffer delusion of grandeur thinking it would take over the world or at least pretending to think it in order to draw in noobs and rob them of their money (transfer their wealth to miners and early investors) - Bitcoin is wasteful. The high inflation leads to a too large and centralised mining industry consuming huge amounts of electricity and money. - Bitcoin actively holds down alternative currencies and with this slows down progress and real innovation (bitcoins only concern in regards of innovation seems to be to keep the upper hand over alts and with this behaviour ensure the latecomers not get a thing from joining the cryptomovement and are forced to use btc instead to make the large bagholders rich while preventing everyone who joined later to make profit at all. So bitcoin is anti fair distribution and an elitist shitcoin) - The fork-issue has shown large parts of btc bagholders have become so arrogant they want to get rid of the consensus and don't care anymore about decentralisation - Bitcoin does not care about the little man, it's all about that small cabale that was around at launch. Bitcoin has become the cancer of cryptocurrency and holds back progress and surpresses the entire altcoin industry. It is a scam for early adopters and miners to get rich of YOUR money by hyping it up to the point of telling people 10million$ for a coin would be realistic. This is a get rich quick mentality and often times misleading marketing (comparison to gold while it is inflationary more than fiat) and bitcoin looks very, very much like a ponzi right now. If you feel the same or agree with some of these points or have other fundamental critique on btc i would invite you to join the campaign for boycott. Feel free to put a statement of protest/boycott into your signature and stop using it. Use altcoins instead and demand from exchanges tradingpairs with other coins as basecurrency. Bitcoin needs to be canceled. It has nothing to do anymore with the original idea of cryptocurrency. Thank you for your attention and time. Another socialist who is envious of how many bitcons other holds. Don't like free market then go elsewhere.
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January 25, 2015, 01:03:57 AM |
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No thanks.
I would however, be interested in a thread that talks about boycotting the US Dollar.
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January 25, 2015, 01:11:00 AM |
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I blame the bubbles. What would have worked well is for Bitcoin to have gradually gained interest and mainstream adoption. Then the price would reflect this growing demand and the market cap would increase at a steadily rate that would have made the inflation irrelevant. Look at what happened in 2012 as an example. Bitcoin slowly appreciated in price in a sensible manner. Instead what we got were a series of bubbles, bear markets, and butthurt "investors". Bitcoin isn't the problem. We are.
You can't have steady increase. It is impossible. A steady increase would suggest a continued steady increase, and that would attract speculators like flies to cowshit. Impossible.
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January 25, 2015, 02:32:49 AM |
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You should boycott Bitcoin. It's flawed because of doughnuts. Not the regular round ones with sprinkles because I like those. The long ones shaped like logs are fucking everything up. Those maple flavored ones too. Maple is a pancake flavor. You don't put it in doughnuts.
This is a good reason to boycott, much better than the OP's
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January 25, 2015, 05:53:31 AM |
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You should boycott Bitcoin. It's flawed because of doughnuts. Not the regular round ones with sprinkles because I like those. The long ones shaped like logs are fucking everything up. Those maple flavored ones too. Maple is a pancake flavor. You don't put it in doughnuts.
This is a good reason to boycott, much better than the OP's That's what I'm thinkin.
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February 01, 2015, 02:07:03 AM |
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bump from someone who doesn't like Gavincoin
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February 01, 2015, 02:10:04 AM |
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And incidentally, boycotters tend to be the boat missers.
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February 01, 2015, 02:26:46 AM |
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And incidentally, boycotters tend to be the boat missers.
boatmissers? Like all those people who sold for 800$? You sound like a freakin' bagholder.
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February 01, 2015, 07:19:55 PM |
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And incidentally, boycotters tend to be the boat missers.
boatmissers? Like all those people who sold for 800$? You sound like a freakin' bagholder. Your fault by buying during an obvious bubble. These bagholders will be rich in 10 years anyway.
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February 01, 2015, 07:49:13 PM |
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holds back progress and surpresses the entire altcoin industry.
I like bitcoin but this is spot on, every time an alt seems to get some attention the bitcoin community rallies against it, even if it seems promising.
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February 01, 2015, 08:04:48 PM |
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I agree with most of the grievances of the OP, however, - I don't think boycotting is in any shape or form a solution to this. Better put all energy in something positive, like promoting something else that is better. - On a personal note, I'd love to see BTC do better, because I am heavily invested in it.... But that's personal and in no way a valid argument in this discussion. On the contrary, the problem is all the BTC bagholders and their attitudes. I had an argument with a guy in the Speculation section recently that was very telling. When asked why BTC would be better then any altcoins, his reply was the size of the investment already in it, and the market cap. No interest in the technology or it's applications in society whatsoever. I think tho, that this problem will solve itself in time. BTC will have a less prominent place because it's starting to lag behind. In the worst case (for the bagholders, including me), BTC will be reduced to dust. In the future, there will be more variety. See this talk by Andreas Antonopoulos entitled 'The future of Bitcoin'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw28y81s7Wo&feature=player_detailpage&x-yt-cl=85114404&x-yt-ts=1422579428
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It wasn't the developer of Bitcoin, who did a mistake. We are the cancer. There are more black souls than white souls. P2P = Democracy, and (real) democracy does not work - it ends in chaos. Take a look at Greece today, take a look to Greece <1000 years in the past. It's a 51% attack if you let the people decide what's good or what's wrong.
Project 'mankind' has failed, not Bitcoin.
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