Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow.

[Chef Ramsay]

http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-ceo-mark-karpeles-implicated-silk-road-trial/

discuss.

I would never have expected that! You really cannot make this stuff up.

it is a bullshit. Ross Ulbricht owned Silk Road. FBI will bring the evidence next weeks. You will see.

Karpeles remains a thief and money launderer as most of the Bitcoin exchangers

However, it was pretty sneaky for his defense to keep this one close to the vest and then drop it on the prosecution during a cross examination of one of their witnesses considering all the collusion between the prosecution team and the judge up til now. None of us know what is really the truth but this shows that Ross has some creative and/or decent attorneys that are smart at muddying the waters and at least keeping the simpletons on the jury on their tip toes on this matter. That was my immediate takeaway value when I saw this.

[BADecker]

Silk Road stunner: Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/ulbricht-admits-he-founded-silk-road-but-says-he-isnt-dread-pirate-roberts/ .



EDIT: Government has to look good. They have to look useful. And that is besides all the money they stand to rake in. So they'll frame anybody they can.

Good joke... "Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR" hahaha

Notice, the thread title says "potential" life sentence. Government has a long way to go to prove Ross had anything to do with anything illegal. Their goal is to get Ross to admit to wrongdoing. If they can't do that, he goes free.

In the event government can literally find a string of evidence, where everyone in the string swears that it is the truth, and the string leads back to Ross, and he is found guilty, even if this takes place and Ross stands at sentencing, all he has to say is, "Can anyone come forward who can verify in court that anything I did caused him harm or damage?"

Then, there better be someone who can prove that broken bones, headaches, cuts, bruises (not some silly mental worry-wart turmoil) was done by Ross. If they can't, he still goes free, if he and his attorneys are smart enough so that he can ask the question.

It is a complete uphill battle for the government, if Ross doesn't open his mouth and convict himself... even if he is guilty as all get-out.

Do you have actual experience in the legal system, or are you just spouting theories?
I have several lawyers in my family... And from what they tell me, anything is possible.
It's really up to the judges and juries.

Very little conclusive personal experience.

Not theories.

Jury is the final authority. If the jury is informed, jury nullification overrules all.

We had no taxes on much of anything before 1936. Now we have all kinds of taxes. People forgot how to use common law to nullify corporate attacks against them, attacks without a human being verifying something, under oath or affirmation, on the stand, with personal knowledge. Instead, we have let the attorneys take over.

There are many people all over the place who are using the law on a small scale to overcome government trampling on human rights. Three places that I have been studying are:
http://1215.org/ - Bill Thornton's work regarding what we are not being taught about common law anymore;
http://www.broadmind.org/ - Karl Lentz, who has taken his own experience and bill Thornton's info, and turned it into a simplified, practical approach;
http://www.johngliha.com/ - To a small extent, the work of John Gliha and the people who trained him back in the mid '90s.

All three of these guys have had their losses and their wins. It has taken this to perfect their use of the law. Get your family lawyers to study their stuff while it is still around. It is my belief that if 5% to 10% of the adult population in the U.S. started to use this stuff, the whole government and banking system would turn around. This might even be part of the stuff that crashes the fiat system in the near future.

[BADecker]

Silk Road stunner: Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/ulbricht-admits-he-founded-silk-road-but-says-he-isnt-dread-pirate-roberts/ .



EDIT: Government has to look good. They have to look useful. And that is besides all the money they stand to rake in. So they'll frame anybody they can.

Good joke... "Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR" hahaha

Notice, the thread title says "potential" life sentence. Government has a long way to go to prove Ross had anything to do with anything illegal. Their goal is to get Ross to admit to wrongdoing. If they can't do that, he goes free.

In the event government can literally find a string of evidence, where everyone in the string swears that it is the truth, and the string leads back to Ross, and he is found guilty, even if this takes place and Ross stands at sentencing, all he has to say is, "Can anyone come forward who can verify in court that anything I did caused him harm or damage?"

Then, there better be someone who can prove that broken bones, headaches, cuts, bruises (not some silly mental worry-wart turmoil) was done by Ross. If they can't, he still goes free, if he and his attorneys are smart enough so that he can ask the question.

It is a complete uphill battle for the government, if Ross doesn't open his mouth and convict himself... even if he is guilty as all get-out.

lol@implying the government can't get their way one way or another.

'Government' and 'uphill' in the judicial system are antonyms.  If you haven't noticed, the government is the judge, juror and executioner.    It's essentially synonymous to suing google in their own in-house legislative court.


Even in your unrealistic dream world scenario, should either of the two magically escape sentencing, then the government always has alternate ways to quietly erase them 'off the map,' so to speak.

They can and will do as they please...without recourse.

And I can't fathom how anyone in their right mind could defend either of the two.  I'd be completely fine with an underground craigslist type selling world that strictly prohibits black market fire arms and hard drugs (no, marijuana isn't a hard drug).   But supporting either one of these ass-clowns is essentially stating your support for heroin addicts and child pornography.  i.e. you are a sick f___  (insert the blank)

It is the ignorance of the people regarding common law that allows government to do this. Essentially, it is so simple. In court, none of the code or law applies to me, a man, unless there is a verified (sworn statement) by a human being who proves that I was the one who harmed or damaged him. Look at the websites in the above ^^ post.

[jonald_fyookball]

may be true in theory but if the judge doesn't like the line you're taking, he can shut it down, that is just the reality. 

[flipstyle]

Silk Road stunner: Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/ulbricht-admits-he-founded-silk-road-but-says-he-isnt-dread-pirate-roberts/ .



EDIT: Government has to look good. They have to look useful. And that is besides all the money they stand to rake in. So they'll frame anybody they can.

Good joke... "Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR" hahaha

Notice, the thread title says "potential" life sentence. Government has a long way to go to prove Ross had anything to do with anything illegal. Their goal is to get Ross to admit to wrongdoing. If they can't do that, he goes free.

In the event government can literally find a string of evidence, where everyone in the string swears that it is the truth, and the string leads back to Ross, and he is found guilty, even if this takes place and Ross stands at sentencing, all he has to say is, "Can anyone come forward who can verify in court that anything I did caused him harm or damage?"

Then, there better be someone who can prove that broken bones, headaches, cuts, bruises (not some silly mental worry-wart turmoil) was done by Ross. If they can't, he still goes free, if he and his attorneys are smart enough so that he can ask the question.

It is a complete uphill battle for the government, if Ross doesn't open his mouth and convict himself... even if he is guilty as all get-out.

lol@implying the government can't get their way one way or another.

'Government' and 'uphill' in the judicial system are antonyms.  If you haven't noticed, the government is the judge, juror and executioner.    It's essentially synonymous to suing google in their own in-house legislative court.


Even in your unrealistic dream world scenario, should either of the two magically escape sentencing, then the government always has alternate ways to quietly erase them 'off the map,' so to speak.

They can and will do as they please...without recourse.

And I can't fathom how anyone in their right mind could defend either of the two.  I'd be completely fine with an underground craigslist type selling world that strictly prohibits black market fire arms and hard drugs (no, marijuana isn't a hard drug).   But supporting either one of these ass-clowns is essentially stating your support for heroin addicts and child pornography.  i.e. you are a sick f___  (insert the blank)

It is the ignorance of the people regarding common law that allows government to do this. Essentially, it is so simple. In court, none of the code or law applies to me, a man, unless there is a verified (sworn statement) by a human being who proves that I was the one who harmed or damaged him. Look at the websites in the above ^^ post.

Yes, I understand how burden of proof works.  However, anyone even remotely defending either one of these scumbags or hoping they 'beat the system' are scum themselves.  I could understand if they were martyrs with a good cause like Martin Luther King, but both have nothing but dirty, selfish motives that contribute nothing positive to society with their actions.

If you're a true believer in bitcoin you should be praying both of these scumbags get locked up for good...because they've done much more to tarnish its reputation than to help it flourish.

[ivonna]

Silk Road stunner: Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/ulbricht-admits-he-founded-silk-road-but-says-he-isnt-dread-pirate-roberts/ .



EDIT: Government has to look good. They have to look useful. And that is besides all the money they stand to rake in. So they'll frame anybody they can.

Good joke... "Ulbricht admits founding the site, but says he isn’t DPR" hahaha

Notice, the thread title says "potential" life sentence. Government has a long way to go to prove Ross had anything to do with anything illegal. Their goal is to get Ross to admit to wrongdoing. If they can't do that, he goes free.

In the event government can literally find a string of evidence, where everyone in the string swears that it is the truth, and the string leads back to Ross, and he is found guilty, even if this takes place and Ross stands at sentencing, all he has to say is, "Can anyone come forward who can verify in court that anything I did caused him harm or damage?"

Then, there better be someone who can prove that broken bones, headaches, cuts, bruises (not some silly mental worry-wart turmoil) was done by Ross. If they can't, he still goes free, if he and his attorneys are smart enough so that he can ask the question.

It is a complete uphill battle for the government, if Ross doesn't open his mouth and convict himself... even if he is guilty as all get-out.

lol@implying the government can't get their way one way or another.

'Government' and 'uphill' in the judicial system are antonyms.  If you haven't noticed, the government is the judge, juror and executioner.    It's essentially synonymous to suing google in their own in-house legislative court.


Even in your unrealistic dream world scenario, should either of the two magically escape sentencing, then the government always has alternate ways to quietly erase them 'off the map,' so to speak.

They can and will do as they please...without recourse.

And I can't fathom how anyone in their right mind could defend either of the two.  I'd be completely fine with an underground craigslist type selling world that strictly prohibits black market fire arms and hard drugs (no, marijuana isn't a hard drug).   But supporting either one of these ass-clowns is essentially stating your support for heroin addicts and child pornography.  i.e. you are a sick f___  (insert the blank)

It is the ignorance of the people regarding common law that allows government to do this. Essentially, it is so simple. In court, none of the code or law applies to me, a man, unless there is a verified (sworn statement) by a human being who proves that I was the one who harmed or damaged him. Look at the websites in the above ^^ post.

Yes, I understand how burden of proof works.  However, anyone even remotely defending either one of these scumbags or hoping they 'beat the system' are scum themselves.  I could understand if they were martyrs with a good cause like Martin Luther King, but both have nothing but dirty, selfish motives that contribute nothing positive to society with their actions.

If you're a true believer in bitcoin you should be praying both of these scumbags get locked up for good...because they've done much more to tarnish its reputation than to help it flourish.

You need to accept that there will be drug trade regardless of if it is on the streets, over the internet (or over tor), if it is illegal or if it is legal.

The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent. This compared to notoriously violent drug trade that takes place on the streets.

I think it is fair to say that reducing violence in the world is a contribution to society 

[mayax]

child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality !

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ?  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

[elephantas1]

still no news about his sentence? maybe theres a web where i can follow it

[mayax]

still no news about his sentence? maybe theres a web where i can follow it

The sentence will be in 2 months.

[BADecker]

Maybe the FBI runs the Silk Road. 

[BADecker]

Ask yourself, Who got hurt? Probably nobody. But if someone did, provide the chain of evidence that the people who were hurt can swear is the truth, which also shows that it was clearly Ross who did the harm. It isn't there. There was no harm done. Nobody will come forward and claim that they were hurt.

This whole thing is about government people and attorneys trying to get legal control of some of Ross's money. They are trying to trick him into making a plea deal out of fear.

If Ross was bad, these government vultures are pure evil. If Ross was good, these government vultures STILL are pure evil.

[iGotSpots]

child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality !

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ?  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

You really are obsessed with bringing up child pornography frequently, yet calling other people weirdos...? Please go away. Your arguments are nonsensical and rather creepy in nature

[mayax]

child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality !

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ?  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

You really are obsessed with bringing up child pornography frequently, yet calling other people weirdos...? Please go away. Your arguments are nonsensical and rather creepy in nature

I quoted "The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent."

If drug dealing is not violent and it is accepted(as someone said), then let's accept child porn too because it's non-violent. it's a total madness what some people are saying

Drug dealing is violent. It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives.

[darkota]

child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality !

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ?  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

You really are obsessed with bringing up child pornography frequently, yet calling other people weirdos...? Please go away. Your arguments are nonsensical and rather creepy in nature

I quoted "The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent."

If drug dealing is not violent and it is accepted(as someone said), then let's accept child porn too because it's non-violent. it's a total madness what some people are saying

Drug dealing is violent. It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives.

I agree with iGotSpots. Your argument is child porn is not violent. Well you're entirely wrong. Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental as well in case you didn't know and, taking advantage of a child like that can lead to heavy emotional damage to them(the spreading and taking of pictures). If you feel that you display pedophilic tendencies, mayax, please see a trained therapist or psychiatrist where you can work on your empathy(Placing yourself in someone else's situation) and more.

[mayax]

child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality !

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ?  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

You really are obsessed with bringing up child pornography frequently, yet calling other people weirdos...? Please go away. Your arguments are nonsensical and rather creepy in nature

I quoted "The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent."

If drug dealing is not violent and it is accepted(as someone said), then let's accept child porn too because it's non-violent. it's a total madness what some people are saying

Drug dealing is violent. It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives.

I agree with iGotSpots. Your argument is child porn is not violent. Well you're entirely wrong. Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental as well in case you didn't know and, taking advantage of a child like that can lead to heavy emotional damage to them(the spreading and taking of pictures). If you feel that you display pedophilic tendencies, mayax, please see a trained therapist or psychiatrist where you can work on your empathy(Placing yourself in someone else's situation) and more.

I gave an example about child porn (Bitcoin is used by many psychopaths to pay for such things) which is not physical violent.

 Bitcoin industry is full of people like you, fanatics(who only see Bitcoin in front of their eyes without thinking at all) full of morons, scammers, shitheads, drug delears.

 How can you say that drug dealing is NOT violent, crackhead? Did you take some pills today?

" Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental"

Drug dealing is violent (emotional or mental). It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives. Ulbrich developed a website for this thing(selling drugs) and he EARNED a lot of money.

[darkota]

child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality !

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ?  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

You really are obsessed with bringing up child pornography frequently, yet calling other people weirdos...? Please go away. Your arguments are nonsensical and rather creepy in nature

I quoted "The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent."

If drug dealing is not violent and it is accepted(as someone said), then let's accept child porn too because it's non-violent. it's a total madness what some people are saying

Drug dealing is violent. It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives.

I agree with iGotSpots. Your argument is child porn is not violent. Well you're entirely wrong. Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental as well in case you didn't know and, taking advantage of a child like that can lead to heavy emotional damage to them(the spreading and taking of pictures). If you feel that you display pedophilic tendencies, mayax, please see a trained therapist or psychiatrist where you can work on your empathy(Placing yourself in someone else's situation) and more.

I gave an example about child porn. Bitcoin industry is full of people like you and full of morons, scammers, shitheads, drug delears.

 How can you say that drug dealing is NOT violent, crackhead? Did you take some pills today?

" Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental"

Drug dealing is violent (emotional or mental). It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives. Ulbrich developed a website for this thing(selling drugs) and he EARNED a lot of money.

Are you sure you're not on drugs right now? Did I ever mention drug dealing at all? But I think I get what you mean. You were saying that if people think drug dealing isn't violent, then that must mean child porn isn't violent as well, both of which you agree are violent.

[mayax]

child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality !

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ?  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

You really are obsessed with bringing up child pornography frequently, yet calling other people weirdos...? Please go away. Your arguments are nonsensical and rather creepy in nature

I quoted "The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent."

If drug dealing is not violent and it is accepted(as someone said), then let's accept child porn too because it's non-violent. it's a total madness what some people are saying

Drug dealing is violent. It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives.

I agree with iGotSpots. Your argument is child porn is not violent. Well you're entirely wrong. Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental as well in case you didn't know and, taking advantage of a child like that can lead to heavy emotional damage to them(the spreading and taking of pictures). If you feel that you display pedophilic tendencies, mayax, please see a trained therapist or psychiatrist where you can work on your empathy(Placing yourself in someone else's situation) and more.

I gave an example about child porn. Bitcoin industry is full of people like you and full of morons, scammers, shitheads, drug delears.

 How can you say that drug dealing is NOT violent, crackhead? Did you take some pills today?

" Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental"

Drug dealing is violent (emotional or mental). It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives. Ulbrich developed a website for this thing(selling drugs) and he EARNED a lot of money.

Are you sure you're not on drugs right now? Did I ever mention drug dealing at all? But I think I get what you mean. You were saying that if people think drug dealing isn't violent, then that must mean child porn isn't violent as well, both of which you agree are violent.

I recommend you to read again what ivonna said above, crackhead.

"You need to accept that there will be drug trade regardless of if it is on the streets, over the internet (or over tor), if it is illegal or if it is legal.

The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent. This compared to notoriously violent drug trade that takes place on the streets.

I think it is fair to say that reducing violence in the world is a contribution to society "


I made an irony about that, crackhead

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

no one like him and know what him to do . yeaah
DPR

[darkota]

child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality !

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ?  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

You really are obsessed with bringing up child pornography frequently, yet calling other people weirdos...? Please go away. Your arguments are nonsensical and rather creepy in nature

I quoted "The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent."

If drug dealing is not violent and it is accepted(as someone said), then let's accept child porn too because it's non-violent. it's a total madness what some people are saying

Drug dealing is violent. It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives.

I agree with iGotSpots. Your argument is child porn is not violent. Well you're entirely wrong. Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental as well in case you didn't know and, taking advantage of a child like that can lead to heavy emotional damage to them(the spreading and taking of pictures). If you feel that you display pedophilic tendencies, mayax, please see a trained therapist or psychiatrist where you can work on your empathy(Placing yourself in someone else's situation) and more.

I gave an example about child porn. Bitcoin industry is full of people like you and full of morons, scammers, shitheads, drug delears.

 How can you say that drug dealing is NOT violent, crackhead? Did you take some pills today?

" Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental"

Drug dealing is violent (emotional or mental). It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives. Ulbrich developed a website for this thing(selling drugs) and he EARNED a lot of money.

Are you sure you're not on drugs right now? Did I ever mention drug dealing at all? But I think I get what you mean. You were saying that if people think drug dealing isn't violent, then that must mean child porn isn't violent as well, both of which you agree are violent.

I recommend you to read again what ivonna said above, crackhead.

"You need to accept that there will be drug trade regardless of if it is on the streets, over the internet (or over tor), if it is illegal or if it is legal.

The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent. This compared to notoriously violent drug trade that takes place on the streets.

I think it is fair to say that reducing violence in the world is a contribution to society "


I made an irony about that, crackhead

Ok, you have now contradicted yourself several times. You make absolutely no sense. Please go back to school and taking a writing class on how to organize your thoughts properly.

[spazzdla]

After spending the past year in a Brooklyn federal prison, Ross Ulbricht will finally head to a New York City court on Tuesday where prosecutors will try to prove he is the mastermind behind the anonymous billion-dollar online drug market Silk ​Road.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/heres-what-to-expect-from-the-silk-road-trial?utm_source=mbfb

Is there any doubt he is the mastermind at this stage, lets hope they go easy on him but i fear it cant get any better then shrem.

You don't doubt that he's the mastermind yet you think he should get off easy?  He's a criminal that probably deserves to spend a very long time in prison.

What he did removed violence from the streets..

America should be sued billions and he should be given a medal for pushing freedoms.  "Criminal" is a moronic term.  He shouldn't see a single day and many higher ups in america should never see the light of day ever again.  Making drugs illegal DECIMATES poor communites and poor countries and causes massive violence.