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January 26, 2015, 01:21:24 AM |
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If all that can be proven is that he was running Silk Road then the major concern is that he was really nothing more then a forum operator. Although he was marketing his forum to people trading illegal drugs he should not be held responsible for what was sold on it
He made huge amounts of money from the drug selling business going on on his "forum" on his watch. He was in it for the $$$ - get rich quick. He just made the site, so fb owner should get sued for creating network where people set up drug deals easily also? IF the FB users are making drug dealings, only those users will go to jail. Why? Because FB is a a social networking website that makes for you to connect and share with your family and friends online. It was not created for selling drugs, IDs SilkRoad = black market. it was written on their website Shopping by category : Cannabis, Ecstasy,Opioids,Benzos and many others  |
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January 26, 2015, 08:02:20 AM |
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If all that can be proven is that he was running Silk Road then the major concern is that he was really nothing more then a forum operator. Although he was marketing his forum to people trading illegal drugs he should not be held responsible for what was sold on it
He made huge amounts of money from the drug selling business going on on his "forum" on his watch. He was in it for the $$$ - get rich quick. He just made the site, so fb owner should get sued for creating network where people set up drug deals easily also? Facebook is not set up to sell drugs. Thats the big difference. Silk Road's only purpose was to function as a black market for drugs, fake ID etc. |
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January 26, 2015, 08:10:48 AM |
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If all that can be proven is that he was running Silk Road then the major concern is that he was really nothing more then a forum operator. Although he was marketing his forum to people trading illegal drugs he should not be held responsible for what was sold on it
He made huge amounts of money from the drug selling business going on on his "forum" on his watch. He was in it for the $$$ - get rich quick. Almost anyone that creates a forum/website/business is ultimately going to be in it for the money.I don't think this facts proves/shows anything. There are other sites that have illegal goods sold on them however their owners are not charged with similar crimes. Fact is he profited financially from the drug selling eBay Website he operated. What "other sites" are you talking about? Silk Road 2? That kid is in the slammer as well. |
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January 26, 2015, 10:44:21 AM |
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If all that can be proven is that he was running Silk Road then the major concern is that he was really nothing more then a forum operator. Although he was marketing his forum to people trading illegal drugs he should not be held responsible for what was sold on it
He made huge amounts of money from the drug selling business going on on his "forum" on his watch. He was in it for the $$$ - get rich quick. He just made the site, so fb owner should get sued for creating network where people set up drug deals easily also? Facebook is not set up to sell drugs. Thats the big difference. Silk Road's only purpose was to function as a black market for drugs, fake ID etc. He also had porn section there, so maybe it was the intention and users told him to add drugs so he could profit more? Who knows  He didn't sell these drug himself so.. |
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January 26, 2015, 11:38:38 AM |
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Facebook fights the drug selling when Silk Road was not but if R.H sold R.H early on he should not get a life sentence. A deal with the prosecution and a 5 years in jail sentence would seem like an acceptable deal for both parties at this point with the very limited informations I have. |
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January 26, 2015, 12:35:13 PM |
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He didn't sell these drug himself so..
Kind of like the drug cartel boss who doesnt sell drugs himself either.. By the way from what I read about the trial is he sold illegal magic mushrooms himself. My guess is he'll get a 25-to-life sentence. |
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January 26, 2015, 12:56:52 PM |
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He didn't sell these drug himself so..
Kind of like the drug cartel boss who doesnt sell drugs himself either.. By the way from what I read about the trial is he sold illegal magic mushrooms himself. My guess is he'll get a 25-to-life sentence. He did actually provide safety for drug addicted users instread of harassing them. Source for that shrooms claim? |
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January 26, 2015, 01:15:21 PM |
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If all that can be proven is that he was running Silk Road then the major concern is that he was really nothing more then a forum operator. Although he was marketing his forum to people trading illegal drugs he should not be held responsible for what was sold on it
He made huge amounts of money from the drug selling business going on on his "forum" on his watch. He was in it for the $$$ - get rich quick. He just made the site, so fb owner should get sued for creating network where people set up drug deals easily also? Facebook is not set up to sell drugs. Thats the big difference. Silk Road's only purpose was to function as a black market for drugs, fake ID etc. Yeah I agree..! It was set up to assist drug dealers n stuff... Which is a crime! He should have had been more careful in this kinda stuff.. Should have named the categories a bit more vaguely.. He could have escaped done years time with that for sure! |
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January 26, 2015, 01:26:43 PM |
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I've searched for shrooms claim throught the documents and nothing came up... |
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January 26, 2015, 01:32:10 PM |
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I've searched for shrooms claim throught the documents and nothing came up... Yeah I searched for it too, couldnt find much. |
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January 26, 2015, 02:46:08 PM |
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I've searched for shrooms claim throught the documents and nothing came up... Yeah I searched for it too, couldnt find much. Quote from the journal the FBI found in his laptop, presented in court in trial's 5th day: "The next couple of months, I sold about 10 lbs of shrooms through my site. Some orders were as small as a gram, and others were in the qp range. Before long, I completely sold out. " |
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January 26, 2015, 02:52:06 PM |
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I've searched for shrooms claim throught the documents and nothing came up... Yeah I searched for it too, couldnt find much. Quote from the journal the FBI found in his laptop, presented in court in trial's 5th day: "The next couple of months, I sold about 10 lbs of shrooms through my site. Some orders were as small as a gram, and others were in the qp range. Before long, I completely sold out. " I didn't find that anywhere and i think it's bullshit that someone under this big operation that he had enought money just from running the site, why would he risk the dealing? Makes no sense  |
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January 26, 2015, 02:58:55 PM |
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He didn't sell these drug himself so..
Kind of like the drug cartel boss who doesnt sell drugs himself either.. By the way from what I read about the trial is he sold illegal magic mushrooms himself. My guess is he'll get a 25-to-life sentence. He is likely to get sentenced but he will appeal. |
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January 26, 2015, 07:49:14 PM |
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He is likely to get sentenced but he will appeal.
Well, all convicted criminals appeal their sentence, usually with little to no success. He is indicted in a murder-for-hire in Maryland additionaly, which can still be used. "Ulbricht allegedly agreed to pay $80,000 for the hit, half in advance and half when he had "proof" it was done. But he was dealing with an undercover agent (UC) the whole time, and the authorities fooled him with staged images: On or about February 21, 2013, Ross Ulbricht communicated with the UC via the Internet, to discuss the murder of the Employee. The UC told Ross Ulbricht that the Employee "died of asphyxiation/heart rupture" while being tortured. Via the Internet, the UC transmitted a staged photograph that purported to depict the Employee's dead body. Ulbricht, upon receipt of the fake picture, then wired the other $40,000. "I'm pissed I had to kill him but what's done is done," he said, according to the indictment." - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-murder-plot-indictment.html |
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mayax
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January 27, 2015, 12:15:08 AM |
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he is young...he did what he did but I think 15 year or even 10 years is too much... 10 years of prison it's not 10 years on a beach.
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January 27, 2015, 12:39:24 AM |
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He is likely to get sentenced but he will appeal.
Well, all convicted criminals appeal their sentence, usually with little to no success. He is indicted in a murder-for-hire in Maryland additionaly, which can still be used. "Ulbricht allegedly agreed to pay $80,000 for the hit, half in advance and half when he had "proof" it was done. But he was dealing with an undercover agent (UC) the whole time, and the authorities fooled him with staged images: On or about February 21, 2013, Ross Ulbricht communicated with the UC via the Internet, to discuss the murder of the Employee. The UC told Ross Ulbricht that the Employee "died of asphyxiation/heart rupture" while being tortured. Via the Internet, the UC transmitted a staged photograph that purported to depict the Employee's dead body. Ulbricht, upon receipt of the fake picture, then wired the other $40,000. "I'm pissed I had to kill him but what's done is done," he said, according to the indictment." - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-murder-plot-indictment.htmlUnlike most other criminals he does have a legit reason (actually multiple) as to what he can appeal. This is primarily focused around 4th amendment issues, however other possibilities would include things like the judge disallowing certain lines of questioning that the defense can ask witnesses |
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January 27, 2015, 01:34:46 AM |
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Can't help but feel a bit sorry for him.
No doubt what he did was wrong but he seems like a decent guy - apart from the planned murder of course...that's not so decent.
First post here, I'm usually at -other bitcoin forum-
Wonder if he has any assets tucked away? No doubt the money was a factor but it seems like he had ideals and a sense of adventure that turned him down this path.
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January 27, 2015, 12:25:22 PM |
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He is likely to get sentenced but he will appeal.
Well, all convicted criminals appeal their sentence, usually with little to no success. He is indicted in a murder-for-hire in Maryland additionaly, which can still be used. "Ulbricht allegedly agreed to pay $80,000 for the hit, half in advance and half when he had "proof" it was done. But he was dealing with an undercover agent (UC) the whole time, and the authorities fooled him with staged images: On or about February 21, 2013, Ross Ulbricht communicated with the UC via the Internet, to discuss the murder of the Employee. The UC told Ross Ulbricht that the Employee "died of asphyxiation/heart rupture" while being tortured. Via the Internet, the UC transmitted a staged photograph that purported to depict the Employee's dead body. Ulbricht, upon receipt of the fake picture, then wired the other $40,000. "I'm pissed I had to kill him but what's done is done," he said, according to the indictment." - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-murder-plot-indictment.htmlIt is horrible if he really did that but I think we don't have all the needed informations to make a clear judgment in this case. |
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