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He applied those router lines BY HAND. Not by laser, Not by CNC, but with a HAND ROUTER.
![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Sounds like speculation rather than fact. Shill or moron. Probably not a good idea to trust either way. Negative feedback left. Actually no. That is experience with woodworking tools AS WELL as experience with laser engravers. I know for a fact he could have accomplished that exact effect with a hand guided router. You, however deny this possibility and claim it could ONLY have been created by a laser engraver or CNC. THAT is called speculation. The fact that you continue to insinuate he is just doing all of this as an elaborate ploy to deceive everyone here after he released the video of his HAND CARVING demonstrates very clearly your lack of a grasp on reality. By the way Nubbins, if you think abusing your position on the default trust in an attempt to intimidate myself and others into silence will work, you are SORELY mistaken. You just turned what was just a discussion, into a personal vendetta with me now by abusing the trust system in an attempt to punish me for disagreeing with you in public. You have also done the same to MANY other users over this incident for doing nothing more than disagreeing with you and your mob action, as well as convinced others to do the same. You are going to need to use a telescope to see the sky from the depth of the hole you are digging for yourself. So first you say he applied those router lines by hand then you say he "could". LOL so are you back pedaling now? Sure sounded like you KNEW he did it now you are saying he could have done it by that means. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yes we should all listen to TECSHARE and heed his advice/insights as ultimate truth. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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January 25, 2015, 09:30:19 PM |
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I don't really care if he uses a laser or not. I've already posted at length to indicate that OP is: 1. deceitful 2. selling his wares at several thousand % profit I strongly suggest everyone take the time to review my post on the matter: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864472.msg10237658#msg10237658
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January 25, 2015, 09:58:23 PM |
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VS No where near the same amount of detail.
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January 25, 2015, 10:02:31 PM |
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https://i.imgur.com/nGUz6A9.jpg![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnGUz6A9.jpg&t=665&c=NtK4hj0UfjKqEw) Please take a look at this picture ...please note the bottem of the B between the 2 vertical lines of the bitcoin logo.. note the hexagons that look like the vector art copy and past images dont line up ...why would this be done by hand....unless it was dont by a machine a human artist wouldnt do this type of mistake..... clearly CNC laser..... this is by far the most damning evidence that this was not HAND CARVED and indeed LASER CNC worked its the simple mistakes
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January 25, 2015, 10:10:40 PM |
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Yes, please divert your attention from the facts that this whole thing was blown insanely out of proportion and go over to a thread where you can read pages upon pages of a sales pitch to convince you to lynch an honest man. I think at this point we are primarily arguing about semantics. I don't think this is anywhere near the scandal it was made out to be.
Finally a voice of reason...... And now were back to the childish nonsense...... Truly pathetic, all of you. Grasping at straws while your ship is sinking.... "We made false accusations and we got called on it, quick, everyone argue about the semantics of it all and try to divert attention back to the threads where we looked like we knew what we were talking about. Dont let anyone know we were wrong on so many levels. " You guys can leave all the "RED" you want under whoever you want to. It will not and has not hurt anyone's credibility but your own. BadBear and Tomatocage are prime examples of this, look through their sent feedback, a giant wall of red, 90% of the time repeating the same copy paste coment across dozens of accusations. BG4 too. Nobody takes anything you leave for feedback as anything more than a childish way of stomping your feet and running away mad. Who uses the default trust list anymore since members like Vod and Nubbins have shown there is a fault in the system and people like them do not deserve to be on it. The default trust list in this place is starting to become a who's who list of who not to trust around here.
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January 25, 2015, 10:12:25 PM |
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Please take a look at this picture ...please note the bottem of the B between the 2 vertical lines of the bitcoin logo.. note the hexagons that look like the vector art copy and past images dont line up ...why would this be done by hand....unless it was dont by a machine a human artist wouldnt do this type of mistake.....
clearly CNC laser.....
this is by far the most damning evidence that this was not HAND CARVED and indeed LASER CNC worked
its the simple mistakes Grasping at straws. Perfect example.
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January 25, 2015, 10:15:11 PM |
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Video sealed the deal for me. Very obvious this guy is using a laser, and grossly misrepresenting his skills. Even the simple things like smoking and wearing rings while producing the video clearly shows a disconnect.
You always have some stupid shit to say as if you are a master wood artisan. Why don't you hop off of the computer Stephen and go back to school to get bullied some more? It has become evident that you have an ego here at bitcointalk and try to be global mod to all scam reports/disputes. Go to your nearest ACO Hardware, purchase a rope...and...you know what to do.
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Oh no, I got negative feedback from SodaWarz. It's not even valid, because Woodcutter doesn't hand carve it's pieces, which is exactly what I state in my feedback towards him. Like I said before, his pieces are neat, but his morals aren't.
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Oh no, I got negative feedback from SodaWarz. It's not even valid, because Woodcutter doesn't hand carve it's pieces, which is exactly what I state in my feedback towards him. Like I said before, his pieces are neat, but his morals aren't.
Sounds like SodaWarz is grasping at straws. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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January 25, 2015, 11:15:01 PM |
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Oh no, I got negative feedback from SodaWarz. It's not even valid, because Woodcutter doesn't hand carve it's pieces, which is exactly what I state in my feedback towards him. Like I said before, his pieces are neat, but his morals aren't.
Sounds like SodaWarz is grasping at straws. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) more like Wood' SodaWarz 'collector grasping at straws
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January 25, 2015, 11:19:38 PM |
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What does the winner of the argument get once it is settled?
I'll come back to play if it's an original BFL foam torch and pitchfork set.
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January 25, 2015, 11:21:00 PM |
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What does the winner of the argument get once it is settled?
I'll come back to play if it's an original BFL foam torch and pitchfork set.
does an original BFL coffee mug count???
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January 25, 2015, 11:53:40 PM |
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Oh no, I got negative feedback from SodaWarz. It's not even valid, because Woodcutter doesn't hand carve it's pieces, which is exactly what I state in my feedback towards him. Like I said before, his pieces are neat, but his morals aren't.
Sounds like SodaWarz is grasping at straws. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) more like Wood' SodaWarz 'collector grasping at straws Really? Are we going there now? You're really only proving my point. This was never a fact finding mission. Nothing more than a kid grabbing a torch and pitchfork and rallying a mob so he feels important. You can all sit here and argue the semantics of it all for months to come, But it is more than clear that you have lost, in a bad way. As far as i can tell short of 2 days taken to get some video together and fight with youtube, it has been business as usual for WC, and all of you have spent an entire week trying to defend your non defensible points with semantics and smoke and mirrors. Which you are soon to prove for me within the next few minutes when any one of you replies with your next bit of garbage. Meanwhile, i have not seen, nor do i really need to see a single post besides the original post out of WC on this topic, yet i see a new coin released not even an hour ago and more orders coming in daily for other things from what i see. Seems to me that WC does not view any of you as a threat, as he shouldn't. He called it on day one "Witch Hunt", handled it as he should have, and left all of you to rant and argue about semantics among yourselves. Me? I find it refreshing to see a man handle his shit like a boss. Call me a sock, a shill, whatever you want. If you want to start throwing names around because someone calls a four legged animal that barks, wiggles its tail, and drools like a dog, a dog, then you just have at it. Its the only ammo you have left and its clear, if someone speaks out to put any of you in your place about this crap, you call them a shill, a sock, a whatever, you have not one thing else. Everything else is just semantics.
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January 25, 2015, 11:58:55 PM |
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How did he make the guide or the lines at the start of the video?
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January 25, 2015, 11:59:52 PM |
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How did he make the guide or the lines at the start of the video?
By gluing the design to the wood then tracing it with a plunger router. 30 seconds on youtube and you can see how its done. Just look it up.
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January 26, 2015, 12:08:21 AM |
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How did he make the guide or the lines at the start of the video?
By gluing the design to the wood then tracing it with a plunger router. 30 seconds on youtube and you can see how its done. Just look it up. LOL so you are speaking for WoodCollector? Let's get the facts from WoodCollector in an actual video of him putting that stencil on and not just speculate. It sure as hell was not carbon paper. Looks like a laser to me (in my opinion). Stop with the "know it all" comments and let's have WC post proof or stfu. Thanks
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January 26, 2015, 12:25:00 AM |
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How did he make the guide or the lines at the start of the video?
By gluing the design to the wood then tracing it with a plunger router. 30 seconds on youtube and you can see how its done. Just look it up. LOL so you are speaking for WoodCollector? Let's get the facts from WoodCollector in an actual video of him putting that stencil on and not just speculate. It sure as hell was not carbon paper. Looks like a laser to me (in my opinion). Stop with the "know it all" comments and let's have WC post proof or stfu. Thanks Semantics, Pretty sure its already been covered that it was done with a router over paper not carbon paper. Yep, it's been covered already. More Semantics, He said long before he started the piece that it was a stock image as this little project was not worth more time that a stock image on mahogany. Glad to see we can repeat ourselves time and again with the same old semantics you were using a week ago. Since were playing the semantics game, lets play my favorite game "here is the facts as written in the encyclopedia" As Derivative works done in his own style his pieces are LEGALLY considered original. Dont take my word for it, ITS RIGHT HERE. So calling them original works is 100% the truth and fact. Thats not semantics, that's universally the truth
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January 26, 2015, 12:25:23 AM |
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Oh no, I got negative feedback from SodaWarz. It's not even valid, because Woodcutter doesn't hand carve it's pieces, which is exactly what I state in my feedback towards him. Like I said before, his pieces are neat, but his morals aren't.
Sounds like SodaWarz is grasping at straws. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) more like Wood' SodaWarz 'collector grasping at straws Really? Are we going there now? You're really only proving my point. This was never a fact finding mission. Nothing more than a kid grabbing a torch and pitchfork and rallying a mob so he feels important. You can all sit here and argue the semantics of it all for months to come, But it is more than clear that you have lost, in a bad way. As far as i can tell short of 2 days taken to get some video together and fight with youtube, it has been business as usual for WC, and all of you have spent an entire week trying to defend your non defensible points with semantics and smoke and mirrors. Which you are soon to prove for me within the next few minutes when any one of you replies with your next bit of garbage. Meanwhile, i have not seen, nor do i really need to see a single post besides the original post out of WC on this topic, yet i see a new coin released not even an hour ago and more orders coming in daily for other things from what i see. Seems to me that WC does not view any of you as a threat, as he shouldn't. He called it on day one " Witch Hunt", handled it as he should have, and left all of you to rant and argue about semantics among yourselves. Me? I find it refreshing to see a man handle his shit like a boss. Call me a sock, a shill, whatever you want. If you want to start throwing names around because someone calls a four legged animal that barks, wiggles its tail, and drools like a dog, a dog, then you just have at it. Its the only ammo you have left and its clear, if someone speaks out to put any of you in your place about this crap, you call them a shill, a sock, a whatever, you have not one thing else. Everything else is just semantics. Same writing style as woodcollector and his socks , terrahasher and ukcrypto. Sodawarz is with out a dout WoodCollector.
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Oh no, I got negative feedback from SodaWarz. It's not even valid, because Woodcutter doesn't hand carve it's pieces, which is exactly what I state in my feedback towards him. Like I said before, his pieces are neat, but his morals aren't.
Sounds like SodaWarz is grasping at straws. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) more like Wood' SodaWarz 'collector grasping at straws Really? Are we going there now? You're really only proving my point. This was never a fact finding mission. Nothing more than a kid grabbing a torch and pitchfork and rallying a mob so he feels important. You can all sit here and argue the semantics of it all for months to come, But it is more than clear that you have lost, in a bad way. As far as i can tell short of 2 days taken to get some video together and fight with youtube, it has been business as usual for WC, and all of you have spent an entire week trying to defend your non defensible points with semantics and smoke and mirrors. Which you are soon to prove for me within the next few minutes when any one of you replies with your next bit of garbage. Meanwhile, i have not seen, nor do i really need to see a single post besides the original post out of WC on this topic, yet i see a new coin released not even an hour ago and more orders coming in daily for other things from what i see. Seems to me that WC does not view any of you as a threat, as he shouldn't. He called it on day one " Witch Hunt", handled it as he should have, and left all of you to rant and argue about semantics among yourselves. Me? I find it refreshing to see a man handle his shit like a boss. Call me a sock, a shill, whatever you want. If you want to start throwing names around because someone calls a four legged animal that barks, wiggles its tail, and drools like a dog, a dog, then you just have at it. Its the only ammo you have left and its clear, if someone speaks out to put any of you in your place about this crap, you call them a shill, a sock, a whatever, you have not one thing else. Everything else is just semantics. Same writing style as woodcollector and his socks , terrahasher and ukcrypto. Sodawarz is with out a dout WoodCollector. BadBear has confirmed that Sodawarz is WoodCollector, and BadBear has access to IP addresses. As quoted in negative trust comment: "Probable alt of WoodCollector, leaves himself fake vouches and falsifies trust ratings"
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